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Sun 03/19/06


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 04:46 AM - Re: If you don't fly it, it will break.  (Jim Butcher)
     2. 05:00 AM - Re: If you don't fly it, it will break. (Jim Brown)
     3. 06:07 AM - Throttle handle measurements (Bill Henderson)
     4. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break.  (Steve Crimm)
     5. 07:13 AM - Re: If you don't fly it, it will break (Robert Borger)
     6. 04:11 PM - Electrical Shortage (Garry)
     7. 04:28 PM - Brake O-Rings (scrimm)
     8. 04:41 PM - Throttle friction - the lack of (scrimm)
     9. 09:32 PM - Aileron deflection angle (Andrew Sarangan)
    10. 09:59 PM - Re: Electrical Shortage (Andrew Sarangan)
    11. 10:08 PM - Re: Electrical Shortage (Mike Parkin)
    12. 10:46 PM - Re: Electrical Shortage (David DeFord)
    13. 11:28 PM - Re: Aileron deflection angle (Tim Ward)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:46:13 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
    Subject: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Steve, I buy that kind of stuff from the factory. They have the correct items, the service is good, the prices don't seem horrible and it helps keep Europa 2004 in business. I ran across your new home base on a glider website. Looks like a neat place for soaring as well as keeping a Europa. Now you need to build the long wings so it will fit in with others there!! Jim Butcher, N241BW Do Not Archive


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    Time: 05:00:43 AM PST US
    From: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Jim Brown <acrojim@cfl.rr.com> Steve The brake pads can be ordered from Aircraft Spruce. There are several listed, however you need to order the 66-106 pads. The brake seals are "0" rings, most any A/C maintenance shop have different sizes available, and should be able to match yours. Jim Brown scrimm wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> > > Today after almost 10 months of non-Europa flying, I went flying. You may ask why such a gap, well in June of 2005 my wife had a non-malignant (meningioma) brain tumor removed. Two weeks after her surgery, I fell and broke my left wrist. My wife is back at 100%, my wrist, now that is another story. It is healed, but still a little swollen and it still can't support a lot of weight. > > So what broke? I blew out my brake seals and pissed DOT 5 all over the undercarriage, fortunately on my return to my new home field (20GA). > > If anyone would like to share with me a source for pads and seals on this side of the pond I would greatly appreciate the reference. Or do I need to just order them from Europa? > > I have also added a picture of my aircraft from today at Chilowee Gliderport at Benton, TN. > > Thanks, > > ---------------- > This Email contains Photos or Attachments located at the following link: > http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=10400#10400 > > ---------------- > >


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    Time: 06:07:51 AM PST US
    From: "Bill Henderson" <europabill@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Throttle handle measurements
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bill Henderson" <europabill@bellsouth.net> I've got an earlier kit that did not provide a throttle handle so I'm making my own. Does anyone have a handle they can measure and give me the total length, distance between holes, etc.? Thanks, Bill Henderson A010 Monowheel Classic Rotax 912ULS Filling,sanding, filling, sanding


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    Time: 07:09:03 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    Subject: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break.
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Jim, Chilhowee unfortunately is not the new home base. That is where I got my commercial glider rating and self launch endorsement. My new home base is just to the west of Atlanta in Villa Rica at a private field called Stockmar. Identifier 20GA. Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Butcher Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 07:39 Subject: Europa-List: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break. --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net> Steve, I buy that kind of stuff from the factory. They have the correct items, the service is good, the prices don't seem horrible and it helps keep Europa 2004 in business. I ran across your new home base on a glider website. Looks like a neat place for soaring as well as keeping a Europa. Now you need to build the long wings so it will fit in with others there!! Jim Butcher, N241BW Do Not Archive


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    Time: 07:13:03 AM PST US
    Cc: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: If you don't fly it, it will break
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> Steve, Very sorry to hear about all your family difficulties. Very glad to hear that you both are almost 100% again. Wish I could help with the brake parts but I haven't a clue. If you do find a local supplier let us all know. Beautiful pic of N42AH. I have added it to my folder of desktop background pics. Seems like every time I get an idea for a paint scheme for my A/C, I find out that someone else already has it. Back to the drawing board, again... Good flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done, baggage bay in. Completing the firewall-aft fuel system and fitting the instrument panel. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. Singleton firewall mod has arrived. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117


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    Time: 04:11:52 PM PST US
    From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Electrical Shortage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened. When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2 volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9 volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem? What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4 words in this email! Thanks in advance. Garry Stout 914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying


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    Time: 04:28:52 PM PST US
    Subject: Brake O-Rings
    From: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> Does anyone have the part number for the o-rings used on the brake slave cylinder for a mono-wheel. Mine blew out yesterday and need to replace them. Thanks, Steve Crimm N42AH A058 Flying but can't stop yet... ----------------


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    Time: 04:41:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Throttle friction - the lack of
    From: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com> I need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in flight it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts that I have read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just the opposite. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Steve Crimm N42AH A058 ----------------


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    Time: 09:32:32 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Aileron deflection angle
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> When attaching the ailerons to the wing, the manual calls for 25-deg up and 22-deg down (for a final travel of 23.5-deg up and 20-deg down). I don't have any problem with the 22-deg down, in fact, mine goes down as far as 35-deg. But the up-swing is only about 20-deg. This is after drilling holes for the anchor nuts to enter the leading edge of the aileron. I am not sure how to get another 5-degrees. The manual does not address this issue. Is there something I am missing?? Andrew Sarangan http://www.sarangan.org


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    Time: 09:59:04 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@YAHOO.COM>
    Subject: Re: Electrical Shortage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> The voltage and amps you refer to are from the main electrical bus. You could have a bad connection between the main bus and the attitude indicator. If you hook up a volt meter to the terminals of the attitude indicator, that should tell you whether you are getting the full voltage under load. Alternatively, if your panel-mount ammeter is a real ammeter, you should be able to tell how much extra current the attitude indicator is drawing, and compare that to the manufacturer's specifications. Or you can hook up a digital multimeter in series with your battery and do the same measurement. --- Garry <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> > > Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter > Europa friends can help point me in the right direction to solve a > recent problem. I have an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon > instrument which began to "tumble" several months ago. I returned it > to the factory and they said it tested OK, but replaced the bearings > anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened. When I > telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting > full electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean > 13.2 volts (2.2 volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The > voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9 volts with radio, GPS and > transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I turn off the > radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads > 003.............whatever that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to > 5200 increases the voltmeter reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a > voltage problem? If so, why? I've been flying my trigear 914 for 6 > years without this ! > problem, and have not added any additional electrical equipment to > the plane in the 6 years. My battery is 2 months old. Should I be > looking at my alternator.........or my > regulator/rectifier..........or what? Is there a way to turn up the > juice (volts) going to my artificial horizon? How would I go about > trouble shooting this problem? What fixes are most likely? If you > respond, please remember the first 4 words in this email! Thanks in > advance. > > Garry Stout > 914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew Sarangan http://www.sarangan.org


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    Time: 10:08:27 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
    Subject: Re: Electrical Shortage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com> Bob, For the gyro to topple in flight (excluding aerobatics) it is likely that the gyro is slowing down. I would suspect the integrity of the 12V supply to the instrument. Check the connections or better still, run a new 12V supply to the gyro to see if the problem goes away. regards, Mike Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:06 AM Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com> > > Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa > friends can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent > problem. I have an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument > which began to "tumble" several months ago. I returned it to the factory > and they said it tested OK, but replaced the bearings anyway. I > reinstalled it, but same thing happened. When I telephoned the factory > they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full electrical power to the > unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2 volts per battery > cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9 volts with > radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I turn off > the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads > 003.............whatever that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 > increases the voltmeter reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage > problem? If so, why? I've been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without > this ! > problem, and have not added any additional electrical equipment to the > plane in the 6 years. My battery is 2 months old. Should I be looking at > my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or what? Is > there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going to my artificial horizon? > How would I go about trouble shooting this problem? What fixes are most > likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4 words in this email! > Thanks in advance. > > Garry Stout > 914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying > > >


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    Time: 10:46:23 PM PST US
    From: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net>
    Subject: Electrical Shortage
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "David DeFord" <davedeford@comcast.net> Garry, Besides the possibilities you mentioned, you might check for excessive voltage drops across the connections and also across the circuit breaker. We recently had our strobe lights fail, with no voltage at the strobe power supply connector. When it was unplugged, the voltage read just fine. The circuit breaker had a high internal resistance, so the voltage disappeared under load, but looked all right with only a high-impedance meter checking the voltage. A new circuit breaker cured the problem. Dave DeFord N135TD


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    Time: 11:28:44 PM PST US
    From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
    Subject: Re: Aileron deflection angle
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> Andrew, Adjust the aileron bell crank settings to get the required displacements. I think the manual does mention this at the end. Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8005 New Zealand. Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@yahoo.com> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: Europa-List: Aileron deflection angle > --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> > > When attaching the ailerons to the wing, the manual calls for 25-deg up > and 22-deg down (for a final travel of 23.5-deg up and 20-deg down). > > I don't have any problem with the 22-deg down, in fact, mine goes down > as far as 35-deg. But the up-swing is only about 20-deg. This is after > drilling holes for the anchor nuts to enter the leading edge of the > aileron. > > I am not sure how to get another 5-degrees. The manual does not address > this issue. Is there something I am missing?? > > > Andrew Sarangan > http://www.sarangan.org > > >




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