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1. 12:56 AM - Re: Throttle friction - the lack of (ivor.phillips)
2. 01:20 AM - Re: Throttle friction - the lack of (BEBERRY@aol.com)
3. 03:34 AM - Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (Alan Burrows)
4. 03:34 AM - Re: Throttle friction - the lack of (Kingsley Hurst)
5. 03:43 AM - Re: Throttle friction - the lack of (Arthur Orchard)
6. 03:46 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (BEBERRY@aol.com)
7. 04:56 AM - Re:Aileron deflection angle (Troy Maynor)
8. 05:00 AM - Re:Electrical Shortage (Troy Maynor)
9. 05:34 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (R.C.Harrison)
10. 05:46 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (ivor.phillips)
11. 05:58 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (europa flugzeug fabrik)
12. 06:39 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (Gilles Thesee)
13. 08:34 AM - Re: Electrical Shortage (europa flugzeug fabrik)
14. 08:53 AM - Electrical Shortage (Erich Trombley)
15. 09:30 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) ()
16. 09:47 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (Gilles Thesee)
17. 11:40 AM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (philip george)
18. 12:37 PM - Leather Control Column Boots, Fuel Filler Pipe and Prop tip covers (Tim Ward)
19. 12:42 PM - Leather Control Column Boots,Aluminum Fuel Fille Pipe and Propeller tips protectors. (Tim Ward)
20. 12:44 PM - Propeller length (KARL HEINDL)
21. 01:10 PM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (Gilles Thesee)
22. 02:13 PM - Re: Throttle friction - the lack of (Duncan McFadyean)
23. 02:56 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
24. 03:04 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
25. 03:04 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
26. 03:06 PM - Re: Propeller length (Duncan McFadyean)
27. 03:19 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
28. 03:19 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
29. 03:19 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
30. 03:19 PM - Electric gyro horizon problem (John & Paddy Wigney)
31. 03:25 PM - Re: Electrical Shortage (Rman)
32. 03:39 PM - Re: Propeller length (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?=)
33. 04:03 PM - Re: Propeller length (Rman)
34. 04:19 PM - Re: Propeller length (KARL HEINDL)
35. 06:56 PM - Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) (Horizonspace@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle friction - the lack of |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Steve
If you have the normal Europa throttle box, the bottom fulcrum point for
the throttle lever is adjustable with two nylon washers each side on a
through bolt with a stiff nut,
Its a tight squeeze but should be doable,
----- Original Message -----
From: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:40 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Throttle friction - the lack of
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
> I need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in
> flight it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts
> that I have read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just
> the opposite.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle friction - the lack of |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in flight
it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts that I have
read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just the opposite.
Any suggestions would be appreciated
Nothing to do with the throttle cable Steve - just an adjustment of the nut
on the throttle spindle in the throttle box. I had a bit of trouble getting
it right but is fine now.
Good Luck. Patrick
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| Subject: | Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi All
I am in the middle of doing my annual and decided to torque the spark
plugs as recommended in the manual. Problem is I cant get hold of an
18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head. Before I
start destroying a socket, has anyone found a source from where I can
order one?
Many Thanks
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle friction - the lack of |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
> I need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in
> flight it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts
> that I have read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just
> the opposite.
Hello Steve,
Whilst I am not yet flying, I discovered a problem with the friction device
on the throttle quadrant early in the piece and I am fairly sure others have
discovered the same problem.
The problem is that the metal washers on the outsides of the nylon washers
are not positively located and consequently can turn when the friction of
the nylon faces exceeds that of the nuts against the metal washers. When
this happens, the nylon washers do not function as intended.
What I did was make new washers (to replace the metal ones) out of laminate
(cut out from the access hole in the baggage bay bulkhead) such that they
are "V" shaped and fit down into the bottom of the throttle box. This
positively holds them in position and makes the nylon washers perform as
they were intended to. Adjusting the nut on the shaft now produces
consistent friction.
Hope this helps.
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Throttle friction - the lack of |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Arthur Orchard" <avo@flyingcircus.fsworld.co.uk>
HI Steve,
I am almost completed ,and during build got some house door
seal(brush bristles inserted in alluminium!,cut it to length,then made a
frame that fitted throttle slide thereby making a closeing around throttle
run it kinda makes throttlstiffer an no foreign bodies can drop into slide
, I could get some pic,s to you after I finish daily choresin some houres
time which would give you the gen,
Regards,
Arthur. G-JOST ,Now being
painted
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scrimm
Sent: 20 March 2006 00:40
Subject: Europa-List: Throttle friction - the lack of
--> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm"
--> <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
I need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in
flight it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts
that I have read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just
the opposite.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Steve Crimm
N42AH
A058
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Hi All
I am in the middle of doing my annual and decided to torque the spark
plugs as recommended in the manual. Problem is I cant get hold of an
18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head. Before I
start destroying a socket, has anyone found a source from where I can
order one?
Many Thanks
Alan
I am inviting caustic response here I know, but it really is not necessary
to torque a plug. I have been flying various aircraft and changing plugs for
many years and the rule -as with cars - is to do them up very little more
than finger tight and let the copper washer do its job. Never had a blow yet
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re:Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
--> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
When attaching the ailerons to the wing, the manual calls for 25-deg up
and 22-deg down (for a final travel of 23.5-deg up and 20-deg down).
I don't have any problem with the 22-deg down, in fact, mine goes down
as far as 35-deg. But the up-swing is only about 20-deg. This is after
drilling holes for the anchor nuts to enter the leading edge of the
aileron.
I am not sure how to get another 5-degrees. The manual does not address
this issue. Is there something I am missing??
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Andrew,
I think shortening or lengthening the rod going through the wing will change
the setting. However, be aware that the mechanical stop that the bell crank
hits,(not the counter weight)is the limit for the opposite aileron. It was
an exercise in patience for me to say the least.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
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| Subject: | Re:Electrical Shortage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa
friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble"
several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting
full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts
(2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads
11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads
003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not
added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my
regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this
problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
Gary,
For what it's worth, I was suprised when testing my panel the first time. I
had a battery connected that read 12.2 volts to the panel and the off flag
would not go away until I put a 1.5volt D battery in series with it. Those
RC Allens, in my opinion, are too sensitive to low voltage. But that's what
I am stuck with for now. It irritates me to think that the big bucks it
costed me could have almost paid for a Dynon instrument that does more.
I am sure there is a voltage drop somewhere. Keep looking.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
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| Subject: | Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Hi! Alan
Suggest you get a suitable BOX spanner with the size you want at the
plug end and a smaller size the other end. Then get an old nut to fit
the small end and file out the thread to take your 3/8" drive wrench.
This has been known to work for Ivan Shaw in Stockholm ...ask him !
Regards
Bob H
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Sent: 20 March 2006 11:31
Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug Spanner (wrench)
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Hi All
I am in the middle of doing my annual and decided to torque the spark
plugs as recommended in the manual. Problem is I cant get hold of an
18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head. Before I
start destroying a socket, has anyone found a source from where I can
order one?
Many Thanks
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
Hi Alan
These people carry them, Its German so a tad dearer than home grown,
http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=126785&MAN=Stahlwille-Spark-Plug-Socket-Rubber-18mm-11-16in
Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>. Problem is I cant get hold of an
> 18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
> into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head.
Ivor Phillips
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "europa flugzeug fabrik" <n3eu@comcast.net>
alan(at)kestrel-insurance wrote:
> Problem is I cant get hold of an 18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8
drive) that will fit into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder
head.
Just shop for a cheap spark plug socket, or any deep-wall for that matter, and
which don't have a hefty wall thickness. Then, if necessary, lay the thing on
the open jaws of a bench vise...take your most aggressive flat file to work around
the circumference...and whistle while you work. Didn't take much filing
for me.
Fred F.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=22823#22823
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
BEBERRY@aol.com a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
>
>
>
> Hi All
> I am in the middle of doing my annual and decided to torque the spark
> plugs as recommended in the manual. Problem is I cant get hold of an
> 18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
> into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head. Before I
> start destroying a socket, has anyone found a source from where I can
> order one?
> Many Thanks
>
> Alan
>
> I am inviting caustic response here I know, but it really is not necessary
> to torque a plug. I have been flying various aircraft and changing plugs for
> many years and the rule -as with cars - is to do them up very little more
> than finger tight and let the copper washer do its job. Never had a blow yet
>
> Patrick
>
Hi all,
There is nothing wrong in wanting to correctly torque spark plugs !
Now, if you search the Denso site, you'll find that *angular* torquing
is the best of the best.
I just (one hour ago) bought a 3.50 euro 18 mm plug socket in an auto
store. It has a 1/2" drive, but the 1/2 to 3/8 adaptor costs 2.50 euros
in the same store...
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Shortage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "europa flugzeug fabrik" <n3eu@comcast.net>
garrys(at)tampabay.rr.com wrote:
> The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9 volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned
on, and reads 12.1 volts when I turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder.
My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever that means. Increasing my RPM from
4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a
voltage problem?
Before condemning the RC Allen, what's going on with your charging system and/or
instrumentation? A fully charged battery in good condition will not draw 3A
from the alternator at 12.3 V. Even in not quite new condition, it should draw
nothing. Depending upon the battery construction and chemistry, 13.8V is a
typical float charge. However, the way airplanes are used, 14.0 or even 14.2V
is tolerable. The first thing I would check is the battery voltage at cruise
RPM after the alternator has had a chance to replenish starting juice, with a
digital multimeter of presumed accuracy. If you don't want to spring for a Fluke
or a Keithley, I have found that either Crafstman or Radio Shack can be accurate
enough.
My RC Allen unflags at 12.3V, and on the way down, flags at 11-something. So I
presume the low voltage if what you report is accurate is adequate volts, at
least not to cause it to tumble. This is an FAA-approved instrument, common in
big complex airplanes. One could easily have only low twelves on volts at night,
on an ILS approach in the soup. We wouldn't want it to tumble, would we
now? [Shocked]
Also, does it tumble on the ground or just in flight? In any event, after you've
sorted out any voltage prob, and need advice on the gyro, post back. I have
a tax client who has run an instrument repair shop since only around 1970. She
answers relevant questions candidly.
Fred F.
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| Subject: | Electrical Shortage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Erich Trombley" <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
Gary,
I also have the 914 with an RC Allen AI. I find that when at idle the AI drops
offline, with the "OFF" flag being displayed. However, as soon as I am off idle
the unit will come back online. I find that with the Rotax generator the
main bus voltage is usually just above 12 volts at idle (which is close to the
oven-circuit battery voltage. As RPM increase the output of the generator will
increase and the main bus voltage will rise to about 13.2 volts. In your e-mail
you mention a bus voltage of 12.1 volts with GPS, radio, transponder, and
the AI all on at 4900-5200 RPM. At this engine speed the output of the generator
should be around 13.2 volts. I suspect the problem is not with AI but rather
your electrical system. Since you haven't added anything electrical to
your plane in 6-years I suspect you are experiencing degradation of your electrical
system due to most likely oxidation at the electrical connections. I would
first try cleaning the electrical connectors from the voltage regulator to
the main bus, especially the ground wire to the case of the voltage regulator.
If that doesn't fix the problem there are some easy tests you can perform on
the generator. Give that a try and report back.
Erich Trombley
N28ET Classic Mono 914
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa
friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to
"tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads
003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my
regulator/rectifier..........or
what?
Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!
Gary,
I also have the 914 with an RC Allen AI. I find that when at idle the AI drops
offline, with the "OFF" flag being displayed. However, as soon as I am off idle
the unit will come back online.I find that with the Rotaxgeneratorthe main bus
voltage is usually just above 12 volts at idle (which is close to the oven-circuit
battery voltage. As RPM increase the output of thegenerator will increase
and the main bus voltage will rise to about 13.2 volts. Inyour e-mail you
mention a bus voltage of 12.1 volts with GPS, radio,transponder, and theAIall
on at4900-5200 RPM. At this engine speed the output of the generator should be
around 13.2 volts. I suspect the problem is not with AI but rather your electrical
system. Since you haven't added anything electrical to your plane in 6-years
I suspect you are experiencingdegradationof your electrical system due tomost
likelyoxidation atthe electrical connections. I would first try cleaning
the electrical connectors from the voltage regulator to the main bus, especially
the ground wire to the case of the voltage regulator. If that doesn't fix the
problem there are some easy tests you can perform on the generator. Give that
a try and report back.
Erich Trombley
N28ET Classic Mono 914
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa
friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to
"tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads
003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my
regulator/rectifier..........or
what?
Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month!
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Gilles
"you'll find that *angular* torquing is the best of the best"
What is *angular* torquing?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Hello Gilles
>
> "you'll find that *angular* torquing is the best of the best"
>
> What is *angular* torquing?
>
>
Hi Ron,
"Normal" torquing might lead to overtighten if the threads happen to be
coated with grease or oil, for instance. Denso recommends to hand
tighten, then to tighten one definite fraction of a turn. This way, the
corrrect tension is ensured regardless wether the threads are dry or not.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "philip george" <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com>
Hi Alan i think you will find the spark plugs in a 912 are 16mm 5/8 and not
18mm
or they allways used to be .
Phil George G-EORJ 912s xs
>From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Spark plug Spanner (wrench)
>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:30:36 -0000
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
><alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>
>Hi All
>I am in the middle of doing my annual and decided to torque the spark
>plugs as recommended in the manual. Problem is I cant get hold of an
>18mm plug socket to go on my torque wrench (3/8 drive) that will fit
>into the small space available in the Rotax cylinder head. Before I
>start destroying a socket, has anyone found a source from where I can
>order one?
>Many Thanks
>
>Alan
>
>
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| Subject: | Leather Control Column Boots, Fuel Filler Pipe and Prop tip |
covers
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
To Europaians;
I have available again the above products for your Europa.
View them on the Matronics Photo Share website;
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ward.t@xtra.co.nz.11.22.2003/
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8005
New Zealand.
Ph +64 3 3515166
Mobile 021 0640221
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
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| Subject: | Leather Control Column Boots,Aluminum Fuel Fille Pipe and |
Propeller tips protectors.
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
To Europaians;
I have available again the above products for your Europa.
View them on the Matronics Photo Share website, Europa List.
Cheers,
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8005
New Zealand.
Ph +64 3 3515166
Mobile 021 0640221
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
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| Subject: | Propeller length |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Is anyone out there using longer propeller blades than the standard 62" WD
on a trigear ?
What is a safe limit, assuming the safety wire on the nose wheel suspension
is adjusted if necessary, and assuming that the possibly soft bungee is
replaced with the steel springs ?
Cheers, Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
philip george a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "philip george" <philipgeorge347@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Alan i think you will find the spark plugs in a 912 are 16mm 5/8 and not
> 18mm
> or they allways used to be .
>
>
Yes, but the 914 uses 18 mm plugs.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle friction - the lack of |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
My solution to the same problem was to weld the metal backing washers to the
nuts on the friction pivot.
That way the friction washers do their job. Otherwise they don't and the nut
turns on the backing washer.
Duncan McF
----- Original Message -----
From: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:40 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Throttle friction - the lack of
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
>
> I need to stop my throttle from creeping. Whether on the ground or in
> flight it wants to advance forward. Most of the throttle related posts
> that I have read are about stiff or sticky throttle cables. Mine is just
> the opposite.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Steve Crimm
> N42AH
> A058
> ----------------
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Electric gyro horizon problem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Electric gyro horizon problem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller length |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
See:
http://www.pfa.org.uk/Engineering%20pdfs/Mods%20and%20Repairs/TL%203.12%20ENGINES%20AND%20PROPELLER%20FITTED%20TO%20PFA%20AIRCRAFT.pdf
page 14 et seq.
Numerous props at 64" dia.
65" seems to be the largest.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:44 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Propeller length
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>
>
> Is anyone out there using longer propeller blades than the standard 62" WD
> on a trigear ?
> What is a safe limit, assuming the safety wire on the nose wheel
> suspension
> is adjusted if necessary, and assuming that the possibly soft bungee is
> replaced with the steel springs ?
>
> Cheers, Karl
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Electric gyro horizon problem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Electric gyro horizon problem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Electric gyro horizon problem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
--> Europa-List message posted by: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Gary,
I installed an R.C.Allen electric gyro horizon from new. It was nothing
but trouble - a major pain, and I never did get a satisfactory horizon
indication from it. Most of the time it showed a diving turn when flying
straight and level. I sent it back to the factory 3 times and they did
various things to it but it never worked correctly in flight. (When
powered up on the bench, it seemed to work fine.)
Re voltage, the data sheet value for the power failure indication flag
is 11.8 volts. If your flag is up, the theory is that the instrument
should indicate correctly. If you rig up a temporary connection to a
separate dedicated battery maybe you could confirm if lower volts are a
problem during flight.
Anyway, I changed mine out for a DYNON EFIS-D10A with the remote compass
module. See http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/EFISD10A_Intro.html. It
was a straight swap in the panel and it works very well for me. If you
get the internal battery option, this gives ~2 hours running with a dead
electrical system.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
704-664-4167
From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Electrical Shortage
Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble" several
months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK, but
replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when I
turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this problem, and have not added
any additional electrical equipment to the plane in the 6 years. My battery
is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or my regulator/rectifier..........or
what? Is there a way to turn up the juice (volts) going
to my artificial horizon? How would I go about trouble shooting this problem?
What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please remember the first 4
words in this email! Thanks in advance.
Garry Stout
914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Re: Electrical Shortage |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
Garry,
I had a similar low voltage problem, once. Check the fuse in your
rectifier system. Mine was blown and therefore, did not charge the
battery...
Jeff - N55XS
149 hrs, with new autopilot installed and checked out...
Garry wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
>
>Being VERY electrically challenged, I'm hoping some of my smarter Europa friends
can help point me in the right direction to solve a recent problem. I have
an R.C. Allen electric artificial horizon instrument which began to "tumble"
several months ago. I returned it to the factory and they said it tested OK,
but replaced the bearings anyway. I reinstalled it, but same thing happened.
When I telephoned the factory they suggested that perhaps I wasn't getting full
electrical power to the unit. I'm assuming by that they mean 13.2 volts (2.2
volts per battery cell, times 6 cells). The voltmeter in my panel reads 11.9
volts with radio, GPS and transponder turned on, and reads 12.1 volts when
I turn off the radio, GPS, and transponder. My Ammeter reads 003.............whatever
that means. Increasing my RPM from 4900 to 5200 increases the voltmeter
reading by about .1 volt. Do I have a voltage problem? If so, why? I've
been flying my trigear 914 for 6 years without this !
> problem, and have not added any additional electrical equipment to the plane
in the 6 years. My battery is 2 months old. Should I be looking at my alternator.........or
my regulator/rectifier..........or what? Is there a way to turn
up the juice (volts) going to my artificial horizon? How would I go about
trouble shooting this problem? What fixes are most likely? If you respond, please
remember the first 4 words in this email! Thanks in advance.
>
>Garry Stout
>914 tri, 460 hours, 6 years flying
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller length |
--> Europa-List message posted by: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Stanislav_=A9vec?= <standa.svec@volny.cz>
Hi Karl, Europa XS Mono, OK-EUR (builder Tom Justic, now another owner), has Woodcomp
SR 2000, diameter 170 cm (67").
Stanislav
----- Original Message -----
From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 9:44 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Propeller length
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>
> Is anyone out there using longer propeller blades than the standard 62" WD
> on a trigear ?
> What is a safe limit, assuming the safety wire on the nose wheel suspension
> is adjusted if necessary, and assuming that the possibly soft bungee is
> replaced with the steel springs ?
>
> Cheers, Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller length |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
Mine are 63"
Jeff - N55XS
149 hours
KARL HEINDL wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
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>Is anyone out there using longer propeller blades than the standard 62" WD
>on a trigear ?
>What is a safe limit, assuming the safety wire on the nose wheel suspension
>is adjusted if necessary, and assuming that the possibly soft bungee is
>replaced with the steel springs ?
>
>Cheers, Karl
>
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller length |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Thank you Duncan, this list is very useful. I see that OSLD has an Arplast
of 66". And BVJN has a Hoffmann, but the diameter is not clear (maybe
1700mm). Then there is Bob H's MT of unspecified diameter. Going down the
list of other 9xx powered aircraft I see that Ikarus and Zenair have
primarily 68" props. I wonder if they have more ground clearance than the
Europa.
do not archive
>From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Propeller length
>Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:05:51 -0000
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean"
><ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>See:
>http://www.pfa.org.uk/Engineering%20pdfs/Mods%20and%20Repairs/TL%203.12%20ENGINES%20AND%20PROPELLER%20FITTED%20TO%20PFA%20AIRCRAFT.pdf
>page 14 et seq.
>
>Numerous props at 64" dia.
>65" seems to be the largest.
>
>Duncan McF.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 8:44 PM
>Subject: Europa-List: Propeller length
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
> >
> >
> > Is anyone out there using longer propeller blades than the standard 62"
>WD
> > on a trigear ?
> > What is a safe limit, assuming the safety wire on the nose wheel
> > suspension
> > is adjusted if necessary, and assuming that the possibly soft bungee is
> > replaced with the steel springs ?
> >
> > Cheers, Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Spark plug Spanner (wrench) |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Horizonspace@aol.com
In a message dated 3/20/2006 3:12:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr writes:
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee
<Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
philip george a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "philip george"
<philipgeorge347@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Alan i think you will find the spark plugs in a 912 are 16mm 5/8 and
not
> 18mm
> or they allways used to be .
>
>
Yes, but the 914 uses 18 mm plugs.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
We use a Sears Craftsman 18mm deep socket (3/8 drive) on our 914.
Tam Pho
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