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1. 01:58 AM - Re: Aileron deflection angle (Roger Mills)
2. 01:58 AM - Re: Re: Aileron deflection angle (Keith Hickling)
3. 10:55 AM - Re: Re: Aileron deflection angle (Andrew Sarangan)
4. 11:22 AM - Revs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
5. 11:31 AM - Re: Revs (Gilles Thesee)
6. 12:22 PM - DOTH Thu 23rd Popham (Paddy Clarke)
7. 02:05 PM - Re: Re: Aileron deflection angle (William Daniell)
8. 02:10 PM - Re: Revs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
9. 02:20 PM - Re: Revs (Gilles Thesee)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: Revs (D Wysong)
11. 03:07 PM - Re: Aileron deflection angle (Jan de Jong)
12. 03:32 PM - Re: Revs (BEBERRY@aol.com)
13. 08:19 PM - Aileron link rod tube (Andrew Sarangan)
14. 09:10 PM - Re: Revs ()
15. 09:53 PM - Re: Aileron link rod tube (Shaun Smith)
16. 10:59 PM - Re: Revs (William Mills)
17. 11:49 PM - Re: Aileron link rod tube (Keith Hickling)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Mills" <Roger.Mills@btinternet.com>
It might just be worth checking the Europa service bulletins - a batch of XS
wings were made with the close-out fixed too far towards the trailing edge
and this would certainly have an impact on the available deflection.
The fix is to remove the close out and re-install slightly further forward.
I forget the service bulletin number but a check with Roger or Andy at the
factory might be wise.
Regards
Roger Mills
G-BVUV
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Andrew,
I have just done this part too. I found the main restriction on aileron
deflection occurred where the upper aileron closeout joins the wingtip
moulding. Most of the upper closeout can move upwards a little with the
aileron, but at the tip where it is tethered it can not move. I found that
cutting forwards a few mm where the rear edge of the upper closeout joins
the tip moulding allowed sufficient upward deflection of the aileron without
having to actually trim the closeout (even though the aileron continues to
rub on the upper closeout - it is meant to do that at this stage).
Regards,
Keith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aileron deflection angle
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
> OK, I figured out where the aileron is getting snagged. It is rubbing
> against the top surface of the aileron closeout (which is on the
> trailing edge of the wing) throughout its entire range of motion. This
> is what is restricting its max travel to 20-degrees. I can even see
> where this rubbing pressure has even lifted portions of the closeout
> skin that used to be bonded to the sides at the root end of this
> closeout.
>
> One solution is to trim about 5mm from the closeout's upper lip.
> However, I am not sure if this will cause any problems when bonding the
> top skin on. Any ideas are appreciated.
>
>
> --- Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan
>> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>>
>> Jeremy,
>>
>> That is exactly right. I am referring to the deflection without the
>> pushrods attached.
>>
>> The gap between the hinged surfaces is more than the 1.5mm called for
>> in the manual; however, I have not checked whether that's where the
>> deflection is being restricted.
>> I am assuming the neutral position (zero-degrees) to be when the
>> aileron is aligned with the trailing edge of the wingtip. I think
>> that
>> makes sense because that would make the most streamlined situation to
>> be zero-degrees.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Jeremy Davey <europaflyer_3@msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
>> > <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
>> >
>> > I think what Andrew's saying is not that the pushrods won't allow
>> him
>> > the
>> > movement, but that the aileron is fouling on the wing when he tries
>> > to get
>> > up deflection with the pushrods disconnected.
>> >
>> > Andrew, it sounds to me like you need to check the following:
>> >
>> > 1) the positioning of your hinges - are they too close in?
>> > 2) your start point for zero degrees deflection - are you starting
>> > from a
>> > few degrees out?
>> >
>> > I hope this helps.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> > Jeremy
>> >
>> > Jeremy Davey
>> > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>> > Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
>> > PFA EC Member
>> > "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs,
>> then
>> > it is
>> > possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
>> > Tail done
>> > Standard XS wings with mods underway
>> > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>> > 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house
>> moves
>> > and
>> > lack of workshop
>> > Intended fit:
>> > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>> > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>> >
>>
>>
>> Andrew Sarangan
>> http://www.sarangan.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
I wish the manual had mentioned that the rubbing motion is normal at
this stage. Any kind of rubbing would seem abnormal unless mentioned.
Also, reading ahead, I saw that you are supposed to trim the close-out
skin along with the wing skin after the top skin is bonded on.
On my wing, the main restriction to the aileron deflection is at the
root end, where the upper closeout is bonded to an end-cap. I spoke to
Andy at Europa, and he said that the end-cap is not that critical, and
I could snip the joint to relieve the pressure.
--- Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
> <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
>
> Andrew,
> I have just done this part too. I found the main restriction on
> aileron
> deflection occurred where the upper aileron closeout joins the
> wingtip
> moulding. Most of the upper closeout can move upwards a little with
> the
> aileron, but at the tip where it is tethered it can not move. I found
> that
> cutting forwards a few mm where the rear edge of the upper closeout
> joins
> the tip moulding allowed sufficient upward deflection of the aileron
> without
> having to actually trim the closeout (even though the aileron
> continues to
> rub on the upper closeout - it is meant to do that at this stage).
>
> Regards,
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aileron deflection angle
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan
> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> >
> > OK, I figured out where the aileron is getting snagged. It is
> rubbing
> > against the top surface of the aileron closeout (which is on the
> > trailing edge of the wing) throughout its entire range of motion.
> This
> > is what is restricting its max travel to 20-degrees. I can even see
> > where this rubbing pressure has even lifted portions of the
> closeout
> > skin that used to be bonded to the sides at the root end of this
> > closeout.
> >
> > One solution is to trim about 5mm from the closeout's upper lip.
> > However, I am not sure if this will cause any problems when bonding
> the
> > top skin on. Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan
> >> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> Jeremy,
> >>
> >> That is exactly right. I am referring to the deflection without
> the
> >> pushrods attached.
> >>
> >> The gap between the hinged surfaces is more than the 1.5mm called
> for
> >> in the manual; however, I have not checked whether that's where
> the
> >> deflection is being restricted.
> >> I am assuming the neutral position (zero-degrees) to be when the
> >> aileron is aligned with the trailing edge of the wingtip. I think
> >> that
> >> makes sense because that would make the most streamlined situation
> to
> >> be zero-degrees.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Jeremy Davey <europaflyer_3@msn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
> >> > <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
> >> >
> >> > I think what Andrew's saying is not that the pushrods won't
> allow
> >> him
> >> > the
> >> > movement, but that the aileron is fouling on the wing when he
> tries
> >> > to get
> >> > up deflection with the pushrods disconnected.
> >> >
> >> > Andrew, it sounds to me like you need to check the following:
> >> >
> >> > 1) the positioning of your hinges - are they too close in?
> >> > 2) your start point for zero degrees deflection - are you
> starting
> >> > from a
> >> > few degrees out?
> >> >
> >> > I hope this helps.
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> > Jeremy
> >> >
> >> > Jeremy Davey
> >> > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> >> > Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> >> > PFA EC Member
> >> > "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs,
> >> then
> >> > it is
> >> > possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
> >> > Tail done
> >> > Standard XS wings with mods underway
> >> > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> >> > 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house
> >> moves
> >> > and
> >> > lack of workshop
> >> > Intended fit:
> >> > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> >> > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Sarangan
> >> http://www.sarangan.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Andrew Sarangan
> > http://www.sarangan.org
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Just recently there have been a number of letters which have indictaed that
914 flyers , and maybe others, are using a peak rpm of 5800 on take off. I
have always thought that 5,700 was the limiting number. Has there been a
change?
Patrick
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
BEBERRY@aol.com a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
>
>
>
> Just recently there have been a number of letters which have indictaed that
> 914 flyers , and maybe others, are using a peak rpm of 5800 on take off. I
> have always thought that 5,700 was the limiting number. Has there been a
> change?
>
> Patrick
>
>
Hey Patrick,
I think the ower's manual as not changed since 1998 regarding power
settings. How old is your engine ?
Downloadable from any good Rotax-related website ;-)
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | DOTH Thu 23rd Popham |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
It's been a bit quiet on the DOTH front. How about Popham tomorrow
( 23rd ) ?. Voucher in Flyer.
Cheers, Paddy
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
My aileron channels were too closed - apprently some came out like that.
Nev recommended that you could cut the flange to a minimum of 5/8 - although
you might want to check with Nev about that.
In the end the despite cutting back, the "closing" of the channel led to a
1/4 gap between the top skin and the channel flange. The aileron channel was
far too strong to be bent by force. So I applied heat and opene the channel
to the right proflie and then reinforced with bid.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 13:49
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aileron deflection angle
--> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
I wish the manual had mentioned that the rubbing motion is normal at
this stage. Any kind of rubbing would seem abnormal unless mentioned.
Also, reading ahead, I saw that you are supposed to trim the close-out
skin along with the wing skin after the top skin is bonded on.
On my wing, the main restriction to the aileron deflection is at the
root end, where the upper closeout is bonded to an end-cap. I spoke to
Andy at Europa, and he said that the end-cap is not that critical, and
I could snip the joint to relieve the pressure.
--- Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz> wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
> <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
>
> Andrew,
> I have just done this part too. I found the main restriction on
> aileron
> deflection occurred where the upper aileron closeout joins the
> wingtip
> moulding. Most of the upper closeout can move upwards a little with
> the
> aileron, but at the tip where it is tethered it can not move. I found
> that
> cutting forwards a few mm where the rear edge of the upper closeout
> joins
> the tip moulding allowed sufficient upward deflection of the aileron
> without
> having to actually trim the closeout (even though the aileron
> continues to
> rub on the upper closeout - it is meant to do that at this stage).
>
> Regards,
> Keith
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Aileron deflection angle
>
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan
> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> >
> > OK, I figured out where the aileron is getting snagged. It is
> rubbing
> > against the top surface of the aileron closeout (which is on the
> > trailing edge of the wing) throughout its entire range of motion.
> This
> > is what is restricting its max travel to 20-degrees. I can even see
> > where this rubbing pressure has even lifted portions of the
> closeout
> > skin that used to be bonded to the sides at the root end of this
> > closeout.
> >
> > One solution is to trim about 5mm from the closeout's upper lip.
> > However, I am not sure if this will cause any problems when bonding
> the
> > top skin on. Any ideas are appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan
> >> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> Jeremy,
> >>
> >> That is exactly right. I am referring to the deflection without
> the
> >> pushrods attached.
> >>
> >> The gap between the hinged surfaces is more than the 1.5mm called
> for
> >> in the manual; however, I have not checked whether that's where
> the
> >> deflection is being restricted.
> >> I am assuming the neutral position (zero-degrees) to be when the
> >> aileron is aligned with the trailing edge of the wingtip. I think
> >> that
> >> makes sense because that would make the most streamlined situation
> to
> >> be zero-degrees.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Jeremy Davey <europaflyer_3@msn.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jeremy Davey"
> >> > <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
> >> >
> >> > I think what Andrew's saying is not that the pushrods won't
> allow
> >> him
> >> > the
> >> > movement, but that the aileron is fouling on the wing when he
> tries
> >> > to get
> >> > up deflection with the pushrods disconnected.
> >> >
> >> > Andrew, it sounds to me like you need to check the following:
> >> >
> >> > 1) the positioning of your hinges - are they too close in?
> >> > 2) your start point for zero degrees deflection - are you
> starting
> >> > from a
> >> > few degrees out?
> >> >
> >> > I hope this helps.
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> > Jeremy
> >> >
> >> > Jeremy Davey
> >> > Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> >> > Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> >> > PFA EC Member
> >> > "If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs,
> >> then
> >> > it is
> >> > possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation."
> >> > Tail done
> >> > Standard XS wings with mods underway
> >> > CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> >> > 1430 build hours to date, build currently stalled due to house
> >> moves
> >> > and
> >> > lack of workshop
> >> > Intended fit:
> >> > Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> >> > Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Andrew Sarangan
> >> http://www.sarangan.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Andrew Sarangan
> > http://www.sarangan.org
> >
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Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Hi Giles -build started (not by me) in 1999. Engine purchased 2002. Any
further commenrts on rev limits appreciated.
Patrick
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
BEBERRY@aol.com a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
>
>
>
> Hi Giles -build started (not by me) in 1999. Engine purchased 2002. Any
> further commenrts on rev limits appreciated.
>
> Patrick
>
>
Patrick,
That is about the date we bought our engine. In the crate you have the
manuals in English and German.
You can download them from the download section in my website or from
the Rotax website.
The limit is 5800 rpm.
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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--> Europa-List message posted by: D Wysong <hdwysong@gmail.com>
Hello Patrick -
10.1.1 of the Operator's Manual (July 01/2004, Rev 3) says 5800 rpm (5
min.) for Take-off, 5500 rpm Max continuous, and ~1400 rpm for Idle.
http://www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com/pdf/dokus/d03378.pdf
D
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BEBERRY@aol.com wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
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> Hi Giles -build started (not by me) in 1999. Engine purchased 2002. Any
> further commenrts on rev limits appreciated.
>
> Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron deflection angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Jan de Jong <jan.de.jong@xs4all.nl>
Andrew,
On the subject of making room for deflection and lining up the upper
wing skin. What Neville wrote:
http://www.sarangan.org/~sarangan/mharc/html//europa-list/2003-05/msg00052.html
Make sure not to get below the 1/2" mentioned...
Jan de Jong
461, 2nd wing
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--> Europa-List message posted by: BEBERRY@aol.com
Gilles -- thanks , Patrick
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| Subject: | Aileron link rod tube |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
Seems like I just can't get past this section on attaching the
ailerons.
In order to cut the aileron link rod push tube, the manual says I
should measure the distance between the center of the aileron pin and
the hole in the short arm of the bellcrank, and then subtract 92mm.
Now, I can't seem to get which hole in the bellcrank they are talking
about. I know which the short arm is. But there is a hole on the arm
itself, onto which a rod end bearing was attached, and then there is a
hole on the rod end, which is what ultimately gets connected to the
link rod tube. Which hole is the manual talking about? A diagram would
have helped a great deal.
Also, in order to measure this distance, it would seem that you have to
drill a hole through the wing and cut portions of the aileron's leading
edge flange. Now, the manual does mention this further down the page in
the context of attaching the link rod to the drive bolt.
But the sequence of the tasks did not make sense to me, and I am
wondering if I am interpreting all this correctly.
I would appreciate any input.
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Patrick
"I have always thought that 5,700 was the limiting number"
Like others have said 5800RPM is POH limit. That said you need a accurate
tachometer to measure. Airmaster on their Constant Speed uses 5700RPM for
take off power, 100RPM buffer so as to not overshoot the 5800 rpm redline.
I think 6100RPM was the number Phil Lockwood said the valves begin to
float.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron link rod tube |
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Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by:
Andrew Sarangan
Seems like I just can't get past this section on attaching the
ailerons.
In order to cut the aileron link rod push tube, the manual says I
should measure the distance between the center of the aileron pin and
the hole in the short arm of the bellcrank, and then subtract 92mm.
Now, I can't seem to get which hole in the bellcrank they are talking
about. I know which the short arm is. But there is a hole on the arm
itself, onto which a rod end bearing was attached, and then there is a
hole on the rod end, which is what ultimately gets connected to the
link rod tube. Which hole is the manual talking about? A diagram would
have helped a great deal.
Also, in order to measure this distance, it would seem that you have to
drill a hole through the wing and cut portions of the aileron's leading
edge flange. Now, the manual does mention this further down the page in
the context of attaching the link rod to the drive bolt.
But the sequence of the tasks did not make sense to me, and I am
wondering if I am interpreting all this correctly.
I would appreciate any input.
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Hi Patrick and all,
May I suggest you do not rely on the accuracy of the Rotax tachometer.
After 200 hours, mine was found to be under reading by 300 rpm, which meant
I had been taking off regularly at 6,100 without knowing! Fortunately, I
never cruised at 5,500. Apparently it is not unusual for Rotax tachos to be
out of calibration to that extent.
Best wishes,
William
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron link rod tube |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Andrew,
The measurement is from the hole in the short arm of the bellcrank that the
rod-end attaches to. The 92 mm subtracted is to allow for the lengths of the
rod-ends and inserts. And yes, you really need to make the hole for the link
rod in the root end of the close out, and in the leading edge of the
aileron root flange, before you can easily make the measurement.
Keith.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Sarangan" <asarangan@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Aileron link rod tube
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> Seems like I just can't get past this section on attaching the
> ailerons.
>
> In order to cut the aileron link rod push tube, the manual says I
> should measure the distance between the center of the aileron pin and
> the hole in the short arm of the bellcrank, and then subtract 92mm.
>
> Now, I can't seem to get which hole in the bellcrank they are talking
> about. I know which the short arm is. But there is a hole on the arm
> itself, onto which a rod end bearing was attached, and then there is a
> hole on the rod end, which is what ultimately gets connected to the
> link rod tube. Which hole is the manual talking about? A diagram would
> have helped a great deal.
>
> Also, in order to measure this distance, it would seem that you have to
> drill a hole through the wing and cut portions of the aileron's leading
> edge flange. Now, the manual does mention this further down the page in
> the context of attaching the link rod to the drive bolt.
> But the sequence of the tasks did not make sense to me, and I am
> wondering if I am interpreting all this correctly.
>
> I would appreciate any input.
>
> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
>
>
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