---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/07/06: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:36 AM - Fw: XS cowling ftting (Mike Gamble) 2. 08:15 AM - Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion (GLENN CROWDER) 3. 08:58 AM - Re: Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion (Cliff Shaw) 4. 08:58 AM - Re: Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion (JEFF ROBERTS) 5. 12:43 PM - Terry Samuel Derakane/glass tank (Tony Higgins) 6. 02:47 PM - Re: Terry Samuel Derakane/glass tank (Alan Burrows) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:11 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Fw: Europa-List: XS cowling ftting --> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" > With engine orientated correctly (1.5* to stb) the top cowling overlaps the firewall as expected but to the extent that the rearmost slot of the outlet vents also half overlap the joggle. It seems that I am not entirely alone with this problem. I shall wait for the arrival of my prop kit and check against the spinner rather than just set up the 1 inch clearance from the front of the prop flange as demanded in the manual. Thanks gentlemen Mike Gamble XS mono 440 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:20 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Cc: gcrowder2@hotmail.com Subject: Europa-List: Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" I have just added a photo album of the Subaru install on my bird, hoping that someone will take pity on the porky tired old girl and do a proper Rotax conversion on her. This slothful Jap powered misfit barely ekes out 185 mph even with a new larger TBI with ram air and roller cam. This is fully 15 miles shy of what the R powered birds do, according to Europa literature. Very disheartening! After this severe flogging, the oil temps reach a scalding 210 degrees and the engine screams for mercy, demanding to return to the aerodrome to catch its breath. Unfortunately, this wretched craft demands landing in the turf next to the paved runway, as the vicious handling of the monowheel coupled with the extreme forward CG of the Soob install can require an occasional slight dab of the rudder pedals to keep straight, not good for the occasional TG pilot trying to touch down on the macadam. Takeoffs and climbouts are very dicey with this engine as well, as one can see nothing over the nose going up at 1300 feet per minute. Passenger carrying ability is severely impaired as climb rate deteriorates to an unacceptable 1000 feet per minute with a 250 lb lump in the right seat. The Soob engine is inherently unfit for aviation as it demands no input from the pilot other than turning the starter key and applying the throttle. So many times I have pulled her cowling, hoping for something to do mechanically but alas, nothing. I look forward longingly to the annual oil and filter change, to try and create some kind of mechanical union with the beast but it wants nothing from me except some occasional fuel. This bird screams for a proper $25K Rotax aeromotor, so that the owner pilot can involve him/herself with mechanical bits such as sticking wastegates, balky starters and out of sync carbs. I feel so alone. I need involvement! Please, any reasonable offer considered! AF! http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=EuropaSoob&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php Glenn ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:55 AM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion --> Europa-List message posted by: "Cliff Shaw" Glenn You are funny :) Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE do not archive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:55 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Miserable cur Soob powered mono available for Rotax conversion --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Thanks Glenn, for going where none of us dare travel! You have given me a possible look at my future after 500 plus hours on my 912-S. Perhaps I too could persuade myself to live in such boredom. Please keep us all posted on test flights, speeds, CG's etc. so that we can continue sending you our best condolences. Be careful pushing that envelope. Your The Man! Jeff A258 Enjoying Flying when I have time. On Apr 7, 2006, at 10:09 AM, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" > > > I have just added a photo album of the Subaru install on my bird, > hoping > that someone > will take pity on the porky tired old girl and do a proper Rotax > conversion > on her. > This slothful Jap powered misfit barely ekes out 185 mph even with a > new > larger TBI > with ram air and roller cam. This is fully 15 miles shy of what the R > powered birds do, according to Europa literature. Very disheartening! > After this severe flogging, the oil temps reach a scalding 210 > degrees and > the engine > screams for mercy, demanding to return to the aerodrome to catch its > breath. > Unfortunately, > this wretched craft demands landing in the turf next to the paved > runway, as > the > vicious handling of the monowheel coupled with the extreme forward CG > of the > Soob install > can require an occasional slight dab of the rudder pedals to keep > straight, > not good for the occasional TG pilot trying to touch down on the > macadam. > Takeoffs and climbouts are very dicey with this engine as well, as > one can > see nothing > over the nose going up at 1300 feet per minute. Passenger carrying > ability > is severely impaired > as climb rate deteriorates to an unacceptable 1000 feet per minute > with a > 250 lb lump > in the right seat. > The Soob engine is inherently unfit for aviation as it demands no > input > from the pilot other > than turning the starter key and applying the throttle. So many times > I > have pulled her > cowling, hoping for something to do mechanically but alas, nothing. I > look > forward longingly > to the annual oil and filter change, to try and create some kind of > mechanical union with > the beast but it wants nothing from me except some occasional fuel. > This > bird screams for a > proper $25K Rotax aeromotor, so that the owner pilot can involve > him/herself > with mechanical bits such as sticking wastegates, balky starters and > out of > sync carbs. I feel so alone. I need > involvement! > Please, any reasonable offer considered! AF! > > http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php? > set_albumName=EuropaSoob&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=vie > w_album.php > > Glenn > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:11 PM PST US From: "Tony Higgins" Subject: Europa-List: Terry Samuel Derakane/glass tank --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Higgins" Can anyone help. My Europa G-CHAH was fitted with a tank made by Terry Samuel. The material I think is Derakane/glass. The problem is that it fills to about 3/4 with ease but is then very slow to fill. (Imean slow). I have fitted an extra breather on the port side which improved the situation, but I wonder if the tank is baffled and it needs another breather fitted between baffles. Has anybody had the same prob and cured it. Regards Tony Higgins Mono G-CHAH Jabiru 3300 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:44 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Terry Samuel Derakane/glass tank From: "Alan Burrows" --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" dont thinK it will be much help, but I try to fill up the day before (or after each flight) and by morning it will take about another gallon so then I know she's full. good luck ALAN --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Higgins" > > > Can anyone help. > My Europa G-CHAH was fitted with a tank made by Terry Samuel. The material > I think is Derakane/glass. The problem is that it fills to about 3/4 with > ease but is then very slow to fill. (Imean slow). I have fitted an extra > breather on the port side which improved the situation, but I wonder if > the tank is baffled and it needs another breather fitted between baffles. > Has anybody had the same prob and cured it. > > Regards Tony Higgins > Mono G-CHAH Jabiru 3300 > >