---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/17/06: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:56 AM - First Flight, C-FBZI (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 2. 07:45 AM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (Jeff B) 3. 08:28 AM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 4. 08:51 AM - Door Pulls (astills) 5. 09:03 AM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (JEFF ROBERTS) 6. 09:14 AM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (Jeff B) 7. 11:42 AM - Remove from list (Leo Corbalis) 8. 12:19 PM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (KARL HEINDL) 9. 12:50 PM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 10. 02:44 PM - Re: First Flight, C-FBZI (Peter Grant) 11. 03:03 PM - Re: Door Pulls (Paul McAllister) 12. 04:56 PM - Lesson for the day (Rman) 13. 05:47 PM - Re: Lesson for the day (EuropaXSA276@aol.com) 14. 06:11 PM - Re: Lesson for the day (JEFF ROBERTS) 15. 07:42 PM - Re: Door Pulls (astills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:56:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, Ontario, CYXU. Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 Mono. Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which helped immensely in the completion of the build. The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I really could write a book on how to double your building time. Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. Dave ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:03 AM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B Congatulations, Dave. I know you're thrilled. How long did the build take? Jeff - Baby Blue 164 hours Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > > My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, > Ontario, CYXU. > > Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew > straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 > Mono. > Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which > helped immensely in the completion of the build. > The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the > necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. > Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected > the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I > really could write a book on how to double your building time. > > Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S > prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam > gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:28:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Thanks Jeff, 8 rather inefficient years on my part, then a wait since last September, first for Transport Canada approval on the Skydrive carb heat, then for the weather. If I could get a fraction of your hours in this year, I'd be a happy man. Dave Jeff B Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 04/17/2006 10:41 AM Please respond to europa-list To: europa-list@matronics.com cc: Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B Congatulations, Dave. I know you're thrilled. How long did the build take? Jeff - Baby Blue 164 hours Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > > My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, > Ontario, CYXU. > > Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew > straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 > Mono. > Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which > helped immensely in the completion of the build. > The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the > necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. > Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected > the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I > really could write a book on how to double your building time. > > Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S > prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam > gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:12 AM PST US From: "astills" Subject: Europa-List: Door Pulls --> Europa-List message posted by: "astills" Thanks to all who answered my inquiry about the door pulls. I plan on using a piece of aluminum bent ot the right shape and will attach as suggested by others with some epoxy and small bolts. Didn't want to cut an access hatch and got some good suggestions for getting the nuts & washer inside. My doors have "adjusted themselves" while sitting for the last year or so and are pretty tight while pulling them closed so will take a door pull mounted firmly. Thanks again for all the answers and suggestions. Al Stills N625AZ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:38 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Congratulations Dave! I know what you mean about that panel in and out thing. I'll be removing mine again for some changes soon. I also know what you mean on that time thing. I spent most of my time doing things twice then wanting to do them again. Let me know if you write that book I could indeed contribute! Now that it's flying get ready to experience the best time of your life! The Europa is a great flying plane and I have been surprised how easy and many different ways you can land it. Be proud and show it off! You deserve it! Best Regards, Jeff R. Gold Rush - Flying Off the 40 On Apr 17, 2006, at 7:48 AM, Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > > My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, > Ontario, CYXU. > > Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew > straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his > 914 > Mono. > Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which > helped immensely in the completion of the build. > The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the > necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. > Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not > re-connected > the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I > really could write a book on how to double your building time. > > Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S > prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with > steam > gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. > > Dave > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:36 AM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B All it takes is to go fly... :) Jeff Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com wrote: > If I could get a fraction of your hours in this year, I'd be a happy man. > > Dave -- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:32 AM PST US From: "Leo Corbalis" Subject: Europa-List: Remove from list --> Europa-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" Please remove this account from your list. Recipient is deceased. Thank you. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:01 PM PST US From: "KARL HEINDL" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" Hi Dave, I figured he'd do it this weekend. CONGRATULATIONS !!! You must be very relieved and happy after such a long time. You are number 3 in Ontario. I hope Chris can give it a good checkout in the next few days and maybe check you out from the left seat ? Happy flying, Karl >From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI >Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:48:35 -0400 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > >My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, >Ontario, CYXU. > >Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew >straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 >Mono. >Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which >helped immensely in the completion of the build. >The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the >necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. >Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected >the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I >really could write a book on how to double your building time. > >Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S >prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam >gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. > >Dave > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:47 PM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Hi Karl, Yes, that's the plan. With Chris flying, the hull insurance is in place. I've got to get 10 hours with him before the hull cover kicks in for me. Provided Chris is willing, it's an option I will take. Will keep you posted on progress. Dave "KARL HEINDL" Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 04/17/2006 03:16 PM Please respond to europa-list To: europa-list@matronics.com cc: Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" Hi Dave, I figured he'd do it this weekend. CONGRATULATIONS !!! You must be very relieved and happy after such a long time. You are number 3 in Ontario. I hope Chris can give it a good checkout in the next few days and maybe check you out from the left seat ? Happy flying, Karl >From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI >Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:48:35 -0400 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com > >My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, >Ontario, CYXU. > >Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew >straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 >Mono. >Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which >helped immensely in the completion of the build. >The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the >necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. >Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected >the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I >really could write a book on how to double your building time. > >Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S >prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam >gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. > >Dave > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:06 PM PST US From: "Peter Grant" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: "Peter Grant" Well done Dave, hope you got some pictures, would be delightedcto show them in EF magazine! Kind regards Peter Grant - G-OGAN TriGear 912S Airmaster Editor-Europa Flyer +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 10 The Sidings, Horncastle, Lincs LN9 5UA Tel: 01507 523180 Fax: 01507 525888 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ This email may contain confidential information; if you have received it in error please delete it from your system and inform the sender. We cannot be held responsible for any misuse of this email however caused. Outgoing messages are scanned by AVG 7 Professional. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Sent: 17 April 2006 13:49 Subject: Europa-List: First Flight, C-FBZI --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com My long term project finally took to the air on 16-04-2006 at London, Ontario, CYXU. Chris Staines did the test flight, his third to date. The plane flew straight and true, but with rather more leisurely performance than his 914 Mono. Chris also provided lots of advice, encouragement and assistance which helped immensely in the completion of the build. The flight was short, due to a non functioning transponder, and the necessity of maintaining amicable relations with the tower controllers. Later when checking for the problem, I found that I had not re-connected the antenna cable, the last time that I'd taken off the panel..... I really could write a book on how to double your building time. Kit A061 is a tri-gear, foam wings, XS fuselage, 912S with Woodcomp C/S prop. With the speed kit installed, cabin heat, vacuum system with steam gauges, fire ext, first aid kit and ELT weighed in at 898lbs. Dave ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:03:52 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door Pulls --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Al, I used some U shaped aluminum, I seem to recall it might have been .5" x 1" x .5", but to be sure I would have to go and check. What I did was to cut a slot in the door frame (in the back corner area)that was wide enough to slip one face of the U channel inside the door skin. Once I have that done I then put Redux and flox on the surface and slipped it in. I seem to recall that I held it in place with sheet metal screws that had a hexagon head which allowed me to tighten them with a wrench. I looks pretty neat and this method spreads the load to a fair area on the inside of the door skin. I hope this all makes sense. Paul ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:56 PM PST US From: Rman Subject: Europa-List: Lesson for the day --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman Did my biannual today and got my first aerobatic lesson. Aileron rolls, barrel rolls, lazy 8s and wingovers. I gotta tell ya, guys, it sure beats the heck out of straight and level... :-P Jeff - Baby Blue 166 hours do not archive ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:47:00 PM PST US From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lesson for the day --> Europa-List message posted by: EuropaXSA276@aol.com Best to keep the oily side down and the baby blue side up ol' buddy! Be careful up there. do not archive Brian Skelly Europa XS TriGear #A276 North Texas USA You can see my build photos at: www.europaowners.org/brians ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:11:15 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lesson for the day --> Europa-List message posted by: JEFF ROBERTS Yea! Get it down then you can come up and fly them in mine during the 40. I haven't found anyone to do it. I'm not kidding! Jeff Gold Rush Flying off the 40 On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Rman wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman > > Did my biannual today and got my first aerobatic lesson. Aileron > rolls, > barrel rolls, lazy 8s and wingovers. I gotta tell ya, guys, it sure > beats the heck out of straight and level... :-P > > Jeff - Baby Blue > 166 hours > > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:20 PM PST US From: "astills" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door Pulls --> Europa-List message posted by: "astills" Paul, Has the slot had a tendency to pull out at all. I understand how you did it but thought that would weaken the inside skin a little, especially with a little too much pressure from someone who just got in and started pulling. Al Stills N625AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 3:04 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door Pulls --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Al, I used some U shaped aluminum, I seem to recall it might have been .5" x 1" x .5", but to be sure I would have to go and check. What I did was to cut a slot in the door frame (in the back corner area)that was wide enough to slip one face of the U channel inside the door skin. Once I have that done I then put Redux and flox on the surface and slipped it in. I seem to recall that I held it in place with sheet metal screws that had a hexagon head which allowed me to tighten them with a wrench. I looks pretty neat and this method spreads the load to a fair area on the inside of the door skin. I hope this all makes sense. Paul