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1. 01:52 AM - Second throttle lever (Keith Hickling)
2. 02:54 AM - Re: Second throttle lever (nigel charles)
3. 05:02 AM - Re: Second throttle lever (KARL HEINDL)
4. 07:24 AM - Re: Second throttle lever (Simon Smith)
5. 10:14 AM - DOTH Friday anyone? (Bryan Allsop)
6. 10:25 AM - World release of 300kw Fuelless engine set for July 7 Munich Germany! (GLENN CROWDER)
7. 12:08 PM - Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? ()
8. 12:08 PM - Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? ()
9. 12:29 PM - Threading 1/4NPT taps (Fergus Kyle)
10. 12:29 PM - Re: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? (Gilles Thesee)
11. 12:58 PM - Re: Threading 1/4NPT taps ()
12. 01:09 PM - Re: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? ()
13. 05:15 PM - Re: Second throttle lever (Steve Crimm)
14. 05:15 PM - EIS Questin (Jim Butcher)
15. 05:29 PM - Re: EIS Questin (SPurpura@aol.com)
16. 05:43 PM - Re: EIS Questin (Jim Brown)
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Subject: | Second throttle lever |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Hi All,
Andy told me that someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the left hand
seat, which I would also like to do. He thought it was possibly a Europa Club
official. If he is listening, could you please let me know how you rigged it and
if there were any problems? I had thought of running a pushrod forward from
each lever to a torque tube, but if someone has worked out a good system it would
be great to know.
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
XS mono, tail done, wings nearly finished, working on cockpit module.
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Subject: | Second throttle lever |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
The builder who carried out this mod is Peter Kember. He was the first
customer to complete a Europa and has since built another one but I am
not sure whether he carried out this mod second time around. As far as I
know the mod involved moving the existing throttle rather than adding a
second one.
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Hickling
Sent: 24 April 2006 09:46
Subject: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
<keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Hi All,
Andy told me that someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the
left hand seat, which I would also like to do. He thought it was
possibly a Europa Club official. If he is listening, could you please
let me know how you rigged it and if there were any problems? I had
thought of running a pushrod forward from each lever to a torque tube,
but if someone has worked out a good system it would be great to know.
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
XS mono, tail done, wings nearly finished, working on cockpit module.
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Subject: | Second throttle lever |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
I remember reading a detailed article by Peter Kember in an early Europa
Club magazine, explaining how and why he did it.
Karl
>From: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:50:04 +0100
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
>
>The builder who carried out this mod is Peter Kember. He was the first
>customer to complete a Europa and has since built another one but I am
>not sure whether he carried out this mod second time around. As far as I
>know the mod involved moving the existing throttle rather than adding a
>second one.
>
>Nigel Charles
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith
>Hickling
>Sent: 24 April 2006 09:46
>To: Eurpoa List
>Subject: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
><keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
>
>Hi All,
>Andy told me that someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the
>left hand seat, which I would also like to do. He thought it was
>possibly a Europa Club official. If he is listening, could you please
>let me know how you rigged it and if there were any problems? I had
>thought of running a pushrod forward from each lever to a torque tube,
>but if someone has worked out a good system it would be great to know.
>
>Thanks,
>Keith Hickling,
>New Zealand.
>XS mono, tail done, wings nearly finished, working on cockpit module.
>
>
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Subject: | Second throttle lever |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
Justin and Ted (G-ZTED) also have two throttles, both mounted outboard to
leave the centre consol free for maps etc. They also have a very different
retract lever. There are a few details at
http://systemwise.co.uk/europa/schedule.htm
Simon
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel charles
Sent: 24 April 2006 10:50
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
The builder who carried out this mod is Peter Kember. He was the first
customer to complete a Europa and has since built another one but I am not
sure whether he carried out this mod second time around. As far as I know
the mod involved moving the existing throttle rather than adding a second
one.
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hickling
Sent: 24 April 2006 09:46
Subject: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
<keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Hi All,
Andy told me that someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the left
hand seat, which I would also like to do. He thought it was possibly a
Europa Club official. If he is listening, could you please let me know how
you rigged it and if there were any problems? I had thought of running a
pushrod forward from each lever to a torque tube, but if someone has worked
out a good system it would be great to know.
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
XS mono, tail done, wings nearly finished, working on cockpit module.
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Subject: | DOTH Friday anyone? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
Hopefully my permit and the weather will come together by Friday. It certainly
looks good.
Anyone fancy the last pick of the April selection?
Bryan. G BYSA Mono XS.
PS. BYSA aka 'Sadie' is to be featured in the May edition of Todays Pilot. No leg
pulling please!
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Cc: gcrowder2@hotmail.com
Subject: | World release of 300kw Fuelless engine set for July 7 Munich |
Germany!
--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
The long awaited release of the Perendev 300kw fuelless engine has
been formally set for July 7 at the Grand Sheraton on Arabelle Strasse
in Munich Germany. World press have been invited! I'm headed to
the airport today to start converting my fuel tank into a flying beer keg!
Wilbur and Orville would be proud!
Glenn
http://www.perendev-power.com/My_Homepage_Files/Page45.html
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Subject: | Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax?
ACS sells Alcor TCP that is approved for use on Certified Aircraft. Hazmat
shipping and not reccomended to carry round in cockpit. ACS P/N 05-21300
ACS also sells Decalin TCP that is not approved for use on Certified
Aircraft. No Hazmat shipping and OK to carry round in cockpit. ACS P/N
05-01413
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax?
ACS sells Alcor TCP that is approved for use on Certified Aircraft. Hazmat
shipping and not reccomended to carry round in cockpit. ACS P/N 05-21300
ACS also sells Decalin TCP that is not approved for use on Certified
Aircraft. No Hazmat shipping and OK to carry round in cockpit. ACS P/N
05-01413
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Threading 1/4NPT taps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Cheers,
As I have said several times, I am a flyer, not a builder by
trade and occasionally am trapped by this lack of history.
I have devised a manifold form of fuel system which involves mating
1/4NPT [9/16"x18tpi pipe thread] with a block of 1"x1"x3" block of 6061-T6
aluminium, to save space and counteract forward CoG. Into the threaded
block goes an AN842-6D fitting, a threaded base onto which is sat a 90deg
elbow with a tubing nipple for fuel tubing.
The problem is, I can't seem to find the ideal depth of tap so
that the fitting is securely threaded and still points in the proper
direction.
Is there a trick to tapping these sweethearts so that the AN842
matches 105in-lbs of torque (or a bit more) to face in the desired
direction? Perume sales personnel or tennis pros need not reply - unless
accompanying documentation qualifies........
help
Ferg Kyle
Europa A064 914 Classic
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Subject: | Re: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us a crit :
> --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
> Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax?
>
>
Hi Ron,
Why should we ? Any recommendation from Rotax ?
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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Subject: | Re: Threading 1/4NPT taps |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Fergus
"Is there a trick to tapping these sweethearts so that the AN842
> matches 105in-lbs of torque (or a bit more) to face in the desired
> direction?"
A few thinks I try on pipe threads:
Try a few pieces of hardware, sometimes where the thread starts is not the
same.
You can fill threads with Redux and not worry bout tightening (redux is
fuel resistant as long as fully cured
You can run a tap in a bit further, a little bit at a time, go to my
favorite company www.mcmaster.com for info about taps, you can buy from
them with a CC 24/7
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Hello Gilles
""Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax?""
"Why should we ? Any recommendation from Rotax ?"
Lead scavenger may help out:
Lead fouling of plugs
Sticking valves, stems and guides, talking to a Katana mechanic, most
times after a climb, reduce throttle and get rough that often will go
away. This mystery miss is often mistaken for carb ice
Talkin to a guy who was in Italy for a while, 80/80 compression motor
would not develop full power, when torn down cylinders coated with lead
Sticking rings
Combustion chamber deposits, can cause the "D" word
Sticking wastegate
I forget the exact gearbox problem, think it was slipping slipper clutch
Lead gets in the oil, if it percipates out....
Lockwood in US advocates use of TCP, they have not investigated other at
this time.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Second throttle lever |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
Keith,
Here is a link on EuropaOwners.org of my second, left handed throttle. When
I purchased the aircraft in 2004 from Jim Nelson he had installed the
throttle. He can be reached at rv9jim@juno.com. If you look at the picture
you will notice the started button on the front side and on the top is a
trim switch for the NSI CAP140 prop. Note: the prop is not installed at
this time.
I'll help any way I can with questions but keep in mind I didn't make it, I
just push it back and forth.
Steve
N42AH
A058
Flying
http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album48&id=P1210015&op
=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith Hickling
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 04:46
Subject: Europa-List: Second throttle lever
--> Europa-List message posted by: Keith Hickling
--> <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
Hi All,
Andy told me that someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the left
hand seat, which I would also like to do. He thought it was possibly a
Europa Club official. If he is listening, could you please let me know how
you rigged it and if there were any problems? I had thought of running a
pushrod forward from each lever to a torque tube, but if someone has worked
out a good system it would be great to know.
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
XS mono, tail done, wings nearly finished, working on cockpit module.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
I'm curious as to how those with the EIS engine monitor have connected the Rotax
tach wires to your box. Is there a resistor (series or what) or just straight
in? Any special mods required by EIS?
How about Dynon users?
I'm trying to get my Blue Mountain EFIS tach working correctly and trying to see
how other companies do it.
Thanks
Jim Butcher
N241BW
Test flying
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--> Europa-List message posted by: SPurpura@aol.com
Connect straight in, if it dont work switch the leads.
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Brown" <acrojim@cfl.rr.com>
Jim;
If you are talking about the Grand Rapids EIS Give Greg a call, he furnished
a diagram to me when I was wiring the Rotax Engine sensors to the monitor.
Yes his name is Greg also.
Has the weather improved to a point that you can fly regular now. Augustene
said to tell you and Heather Hello from her.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: EIS Questin
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" <europa@triton.net>
>
> I'm curious as to how those with the EIS engine monitor have connected the
> Rotax tach wires to your box. Is there a resistor (series or what) or
> just straight in? Any special mods required by EIS?
>
> How about Dynon users?
>
> I'm trying to get my Blue Mountain EFIS tach working correctly and trying
> to see how other companies do it.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Butcher
> N241BW
> Test flying
>
>
>
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