---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/25/06: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:10 AM - Pitch stops with more dampening? () 2. 02:49 AM - Re: EIS Questin (Trevpond@aol.com) 3. 05:05 AM - Re: EIS Questin (Paul Stewart) 4. 11:00 AM - XS Tri-Gear kit for sale (David Watts) 5. 11:00 AM - XS Tri-Gear kit for sale (David Watts) 6. 11:33 AM - Re: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? () 7. 12:56 PM - Re: Second throttle lever (Rowland Carson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:34 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Pitch stops with more dampening? From: --> Europa-List message posted by: Anyone come up with a better up and down pitch stop for mass balance weights that absorbs energy in a slower fashion compared to the manual? I am sure manual is fine, but I would prefer to not have such an abrupt stopping. Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:56 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: EIS Questin --> Europa-List message posted by: Trevpond@aol.com Hi Jim You need to speak to Ira about that one, he has been flying with an EFIS one for some considerable time. Trev Pond Kit 598 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:05:29 AM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Re: Europa-List: EIS Questin --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Ira certainly has a solution. I have also seen a solution using a westach magnetic sensor sensing the prop revolutions and getting the BM EFIS to multiply up by the gearbox ratio. The advice from Greg (BMA) was not to take the output of the rotax tacho anywhere near the EFIS box - the voltages were too high and risked damaging the EFIS. Still a long way from hitching up the BMA ourselves so this is all advice from others. Regards Paul G-GIDY On 25 Apr 2006, at 01:41, Jim Brown wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Brown" > > Jim; > > If you are talking about the Grand Rapids EIS Give Greg a call, he > furnished > a diagram to me when I was wiring the Rotax Engine sensors to the > monitor. > Yes his name is Greg also. > > Has the weather improved to a point that you can fly regular now. > Augustene > said to tell you and Heather Hello from her. > > Jim > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Butcher" > To: "europalist" > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 8:09 PM > Subject: Europa-List: EIS Questin > > >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" >> >> I'm curious as to how those with the EIS engine monitor have >> connected the >> Rotax tach wires to your box. Is there a resistor (series or >> what) or >> just straight in? Any special mods required by EIS? >> >> How about Dynon users? >> >> I'm trying to get my Blue Mountain EFIS tach working correctly and >> trying >> to see how other companies do it. >> >> Thanks >> >> Jim Butcher >> N241BW >> Test flying >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:21 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Europa-List: XS Tri-Gear kit for sale --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" I am passing this on, on behalf of my inspector, who is handling for the ex owners wife (the owner having recently died) EUROPA XS TR-GEAR KIT FOR SALE (Kit no. 572) This is the sale of kits 1 / 2 / 3 inclusive of all the associated hardware and build manuals. The wings, tail surfaces, ailerons and flaps are all completed and a lot of work has been done to the fuselage, which sits on a professionally made mobile steel workshop frame / dolly. The kit costs new 21,000 (UK pounds) plus VAT. This is all for sale for 16,000 (UK pounds) or near offer and no VAT. Any enquiries to Don Foreman (PFA Inspector who is working on behalf of the estate executors) Phone Don on 01322 664028 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:21 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Europa-List: XS Tri-Gear kit for sale --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" I am passing this on, on behalf of my inspector, who is handling for the ex owners wife (the owner having recently died) EUROPA XS TR-GEAR KIT FOR SALE (Kit no. 572) This is the sale of kits 1 / 2 / 3 inclusive of all the associated hardware and build manuals. The wings, tail surfaces, ailerons and flaps are all completed and a lot of work has been done to the fuselage, which sits on a professionally made mobile steel workshop frame / dolly. The kit costs new 21,000 (UK pounds) plus VAT. This is all for sale for 16,000 (UK pounds) or near offer and no VAT. Any enquiries to Don Foreman (PFA Inspector who is working on behalf of the estate executors) Phone Don on 01322 664028 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anyone using Decalin lead scavenger in Rotax? From: --> Europa-List message posted by: I talked to Chris from Decalin today. His product, Decalin TCP uses the same active ingredient as Alcor TCP, but instead of the carrier being Tolulene, it is the same carrier as used in jet fuel PRIST, some sort Ethel or something or other. He said Rotax needs only 1/2 the dosage of Lyc. or Cont. which would be 1/2oz. per 20 gallons instead of 1/2oz. per 10 gallons. Detriment to using too much, is it creates Lead Phosphate deposits, a yellow substance. He said you can clean out with a good automotive combustion chamber cleaner, if you see the yellow, but at half dosage and limited running on 100LL, may never be a problem. He is working at this moment to incorporate a cleaner in his product. Said no problem carrying in cockpit in a sealed container, very high boiling point. Said indefinite shelf life, and will not spoil in fuel, will not harm MaGas or if you use some sort of anti-oxidation stuff like stabil in your mogas. He has 1 distributor that has been selling to Rotax community, and just like the Subaru's, using 1/2 dosage. Said a real nice thing for O2 sensor, that I will have on my 914, not much conductive coating of lead will form. My gut feeling is it will probably not make sticking wastegate problem worst, and he said he has no personal experience with turbos to say it will help. I think I am convinced enough to try when I fly and need to use 100LL. I have 2 Andair GAS135 Gasculators. I got hold of another bowl, and when I will not be flying for a while will run some 100LL with Decalin through the spare bowl with plumbing connected to bottom in an attempt to keep carbs, fuel pressure regulator, and Flowscan transducers from catching up with "Mogasnot". Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:56:10 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Second throttle lever --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2006-04-24 20:46 +1200 Keith Hickling wrote: >someone has fitted a second throttle lever for the left hand seat Keith - dig out your Europa Club CD-ROM, and have a look in the member list folder, where you should find a file called "mods.pdf". Open it in Adobe (Acrobat) Reader and search for the string "left". You should find 3 occurrences of it, against kits 033, 095 & 423. You can then look up the owners of those kits in the files "kit.pdf" or "members.pdf" by searching for those kit numbers. No doubt you'll have replies by the time this gets posted anyway, and there may be others whose mods have not been reported and thus not recorded in the Club database, but always consider that the info you seek (or the clue to finding it) just might be in one of the lists on that CD! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website