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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: Re: Fw: aimaster blades (RobsonPR)
     2. 01:32 AM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Bryan Allsop)
     3. 05:06 AM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Paddy Clarke)
     4. 11:28 AM - XS 912 Exhaust query (David Corbett)
     5. 12:31 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (Bryan Allsop)
     6. 12:34 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (R.C.Harrison)
     7. 12:57 PM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Steven Pitt)
     8. 01:56 PM - Re: Fw: aimaster blades (Troy Maynor)
     9. 02:53 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (Jeff B)
    10. 11:35 PM - Official Europa-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
    11. 11:35 PM - Official Europa-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: RE: Fwd: aimaster blades | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: RobsonPR <robsonpr@clear.net.nz>
      
      Warp Drive is in Iowa.  The phone number on the blade lying in my lap at the 
      moment is(515)357.6000 USA.
      >From Peter Robson Kit 406  75hrs    New Zealand.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
      Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:22 AM
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Fwd: aimaster blades
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
      >
      > Well they were still in business ten minutes ago and the web site is
      > working.
      >
      > Tony
      >
      >
      > ========================================================================
      > =
      > I've been trying to look up http://www.airmasterpropellers.com/ since I
      > got this email and the site is down. Airmaster is still in business
      > right? Or did I miss something.....
      >
      > Steved
      > ----------------
      > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
      
      
      Subject: Europa-List: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006
      
      
      > keep a reserve list. Please indicate if you would like to go on this
      > list should you not make the initial selection. Completion of the form
      > below would help me with the administration.
      > 
      > Regards
      > 
      > Nigel Charles
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > NAME    Bryan Allsop   AIRCRAFT TYPE ....Europa Mono.
      > 
      > REGISTRATION Gbysa     HOME AIRFIELD ..Coal Aston......
      > 
      > AVAILABILITY .  SUNDAY 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      Cheers Bryan / Love fron Sadie
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
      
      Hi Nigel,
      Hope you can find room for us ,
      Cheers, Paddy
      On 30 Apr 2006, at 21:30, nigel charles wrote:
      
      >
      >
      > NAME ..Paddy Clarke..........
      >
      > AIRCRAFT TYPE..Mono
      >
      > REGISTRATION ...GKIMM....
      >
      > HOME AIRFIELD ...Wadswick.....
      >
      > AVAILABILITY . SATURDAY / SUNDAY / RESERVE --All
      >
      >
      
      
      
      Paddy Clarke
      
      Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | XS 912 Exhaust query | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
      
      My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has
      had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large
      jubilee clips.
      
       
      
      This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to
      serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it.
      
       
      
      Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their
      silencer?
      
       
      
      Many thanks,
      
       
      
      David
      
      G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: XS 912 Exhaust query | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
      
      David,
      
      If it is like mine I think that you will find that the "muffler" is a heat 
      shield. Removing it will expose the oil pipes to a lot of heat. Not to be 
      recomended!
      
      Regards.
      
      Bryan Allsop. 912S Rotax, similar muffler.
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
      Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:22 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
      >
      > My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has
      > had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large
      > jubilee clips.
      >
      >
      > This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to
      > serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it.
      >
      >
      > Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their
      > silencer?
      >
      >
      > Many thanks,
      >
      >
      > David
      >
      > G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week.
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | XS 912 Exhaust query | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
      
      Hi! David
      In the absence of Rotax advice I'll suggest it is a heat baffle to save
      heat rising upwards into whatever is above it ? 
      Be careful since they aren't in the habit of putting spare metal in
      place without a reason.
      Regards
      Bob Harrison.
      
      Robt.C.Harrison
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
      Corbett
      Sent: 01 May 2006 19:22
      Subject: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
      
      My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has
      had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large
      jubilee clips.
      
       
      
      This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to
      serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it.
      
       
      
      Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around
      their
      silencer?
      
       
      
      Many thanks,
      
       
      
      David
      
      G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
      
      Nigel
      Further to your e-mail and our discussion at Popham, I would be pleased to
      take up your invite to your BBQ if I have the required PFA approval for my
      aircraft in time. I will let you know closer to the time how I am getting
      on.
      Regards
      Steve Pitt
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: Fwd: aimaster blades | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
      
      <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
      <<<<<<<<<<
      Europaphiles,
      
      This came in yesterday while I was out.  Found it this morning.  Is  
      there anyone in the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, etc area that can give  
      the fellow some help?
      
      Good building and great flying,
      Bob Borger
      Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
      http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
      (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch  
      system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in with Singleton  
      Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing  
      incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done, baggage bay  
      in. Completing the firewall-aft fuel system and fitting the  
      instrument panel.  Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical,  
      28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35  
      Doors, 37 Finishing.  Preparing for ROTAX 914 installation.
      3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      Corinth, TX  76208
      Home:  940-497-2123
      Cel:  817-992-1117
      
      
      
      Begin forwarded message:
      
      > From: dmac11@telus.net
      > Date: April 29, 2006 18:33:58 CDT
      > To: rlborger@mac.com
      > Subject: aimaster blades
      >
      >
      > Hi There,
      >   I recently bought a europa xs in  Tampa FL. I hired a pilot to  
      > fly it back
      > to Edmonton, Canada.  Well he headed north this morning and had to  
      > land in
      > Mariana FL. winds were high, on roll out he had a prop strike so he  
      > is stuck
      > there and in need of some new airmaster blades or a warp drive  
      > prop. I am
      > hoping to find somthing asap if  you think you can help please give  
      > me a call
      > or message.
      >                                Sincerely Dwayne McAllister
      >
      >      E-mail dmac11@telus.net
      >                          ph. 780 474 0034 or cell 780 904 5473
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      
      
      Hi All,
      Does anyone know whose Europa XS he bought or the kit number. Just curious.
      
      Troy Maynor
      N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
      Left to finish:
      Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
      Weaverville, NC USA
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
       
       
       
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: XS 912 Exhaust query | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
      
      David,
      
      The metal is indeed a heat shield and is best left in place.  Check 
      Europa's website for the appropriate fix for the loosening screws...
      
      Jeff - baby Blue
      170 hours - Oily side up, on occasion...
      
      David Corbett wrote:
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" <duc@farmline.com>
      > 
      > My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has
      > had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large
      > jubilee clips.
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to
      > serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it.
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their
      > silencer?
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Many thanks,
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > David
      > 
      > G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      >  
      >  
      >  
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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         At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a very
      
         small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to archive
      
         it.  In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the 
         message:
      
                       do not archive
      
         Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to List 
         email distribution as normal.
      
      
      
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         Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
         email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be promptly
         removed from the List.  If you discover that you are no longer receiving
         messages from the Europa-List, go to the following Web page, and look
         for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
      
         The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that 
         automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that 
         caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox 
         full", etc.  If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the 
         Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
      
                       http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
      
         If the problem listed on the web site above has been resolved, please feel 
         free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
      
      
      
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      *** List Member Information ***
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         If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and 
         paper mail address in the following format:
      
                       smith@somehost.com
                       Joe Smith
                       123 Airport Lane
                       Tower, CA 91234-1234
                       098-765-1234 w
                       123-456-7890 h
      
         Please forward this information to the following email address:
      
                       requests@matronics.com
      
         I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when 
         there are problems with your email address.  The information will NOT 
         be used for any other commercial purpose.
      
      
      
      ****************************************
      *** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
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         Recent messages posted to the Europa-List are also made available on
         the Web for realtime browsing.  Seven days worth of back postings are
         available with this feature.  The messages can be sorted by Subject, 
         Author, Date, or Message Thread.  The Realtime List Browser indexes are 
         updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45.  You can also reply to a message
      
         or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming soon).
         You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
         Browser Interface in view-mode.
      
                       http://www.matronics.com/browselist/europa-list
      
      
      
      *******************************************
      *** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
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         A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all Europa-List content.
         content.  The Forums contain all of the same content available via the email
      
         distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as the 
         List Browse, etc.  Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to the 
         respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted to 
         the web Forums.
      
         You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
         If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
         will need to Register.  This is a simple process that takes only a few
         minutes.  A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
         main web Forums page.  Note that registering on the Forum web site also
         enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well.  You will also need to
      
         Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
         Email Distribution of the List, however.
      
         The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following URL:
      
      		http://forums.matronics.com
      
      
      
      *********************************
      *** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
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      In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often accessed 
      information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
      
      		http://wiki.matronics.com
      
      The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful information 
      for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web page
      
      where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the Wiki 
      permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible immediately.
      
      While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be 
      comfortable building pages.  In that case, simply prepare the text and any 
      images and email it to:
      
      		 wiki-support@matronics.com
      
      One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct 
      a Wiki page for you.
      
      Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of the 
      Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take that 
      post and convert it into a Wiki page.
      
      
      
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      *** List Archives ***
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         A file containing of all of the previous postings to the Europa-List is
         available on line.  The archive file information is available via the 
         Web and FTP in a number of forms.  Each are briefly described below:
      
      
         * Europa-List.FAQ 
      
      	    - Latest version of the Europa-List Frequently Asked Question 
      	      page (this document).
      
         * Europa-Archive.digest.complete 
      	
      	    - Complete file with most of the email header info removed and 
      	      page breaks inserted between messages.
      
         * Europa-Archive.digest.vol-??  
      
      	    - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections that 
      	      can more easily handled.
      
         * Europa-Archive.digest.complete.zip 
      
      	    - Same as the Europa-Archive.digest.complete file above, but 
      	      in PKZIP format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
      
         * Europa-Archive.digest.complete.Z 
      
      	    - Same as the Europa-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in 
      	      UNIX compress format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
      
      
      
        Download Via FTP
        ----------------
      
         The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
         in the "/pub/Archives" directory.  It is updated daily and can be found in
         a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
      
                        ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
      
      
      
        Download Via Web
        ----------------
      
         The archives are also available via a web listing.  These can be found
         toward the bottom of the following web page:
      
                        http://www.matronics.com/archives
      
      
      
      ******************************************
      *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
      ******************************************
      
         All messages posted to the Europa-List are also available using the
         Email List Archive Browsing feature.  With this utility, all messages
         in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
      
                        http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?Europa
      
      
      
      *****************************************
      **** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
      *****************************************
      
         You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search Engine
         to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
         List.  The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
         available List archives.
      
                        http://www.matronics.com/search
      
      
      
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      *** File and Photo Share ***
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         With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share pictures
         and other data with members of the List without having to forward a 
         copy of it to everyone.  To share your Files and Photos, simply email 
         them to:
      
                        pictures@matronics.com
      
         !! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
      
                        1) Email Lists that they are related to.
                        2) Your Full Name.
                        3) Your Email Address.
                        4) One line Subject description.
                        5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
                        6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
      
         Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be scanned
         for viruses.  Please also note that the process of making the files and
         photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try to
         process them every few days.
      
         Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will be
         sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
         Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
      
         For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
         Index Page:
      
                        http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
      
      
      
      **************************
      *** List Archive CDROM ***
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         A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
         all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists.  The archives
         for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
         engine written by a list member.  The CD is burned the day you order it
         and will contain archive received  up to the last minute.  They make 
         great gifts!
      
                        http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
      
      
      
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         I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
         I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they 
         are comfortable.
      
         I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during the
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         Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just 
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                           Europa-List Usage Guidelines
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      The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Europa-List.
      You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
      Failure to use the Europa-List in the manner described below may result 
      in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
      
      
      Europa-List Policy Statement
      
      The purpose of the Europa-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
      things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's goals
      are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
      high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
      among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals 
      requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of 
      the List.  To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
      
      
       - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
         posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
         lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
      
       - THINK carefully before you write.  Ask yourself if your post will be
         relevant to everyone.  If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
      
       - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
         that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate.  Try to be concise and
         terse in your posts.  Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
         responses.
      
       - Keep your signature brief.  Please include your name, email address,
         aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location.  A short line
         about where you are in the building process is also nice.  Avoid
         bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
         space in the archive.
      
       - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
         easily obtainable from other widely available sources.  Consult the
         web page or FAQ first.
      
       - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
         your response the same as that of the original post.  This makes it
         easy to find threads in the archive.
      
       - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
         response.  DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
         reader to the topic at hand, but be selective.  The impact that
         quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive 
         can not be overstated!
      
       - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
         then go ahead and reply to the List.  Be aware that clicking the
         "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
         response to the original poster.  You might have to actively address
         your response with the original poster's email address.
      
       - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
         to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal.  "Way to go!", "I
         agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
         to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
      
       - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
         comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
         contribute something valuable.
      
       - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
         polite and respectful.  Don't make snide comments, personally attack
         other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
         controversial issue.  This will only cause a pointless debate that
         will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
      
       - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly 
         subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable.  Posts by 
         List members promoting their respective products or items for sale 
         should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble 
         a typical SPAM message.  The List isn't about commercialism, but 
         is about sharing information and knowledge.  This applies to 
         everyone, including those who provide products to the entire 
         community.  Informal presentation and moderation should be the 
         operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
      
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