---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/01/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:01 AM - Re: Re: Fw: aimaster blades (RobsonPR) 2. 01:32 AM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Bryan Allsop) 3. 05:06 AM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Paddy Clarke) 4. 11:28 AM - XS 912 Exhaust query (David Corbett) 5. 12:31 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (Bryan Allsop) 6. 12:34 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (R.C.Harrison) 7. 12:57 PM - Re: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 (Steven Pitt) 8. 01:56 PM - Re: Fw: aimaster blades (Troy Maynor) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: XS 912 Exhaust query (Jeff B) 10. 11:35 PM - Official Europa-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle) 11. 11:35 PM - Official Europa-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:01:05 AM PST US From: RobsonPR Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Fwd: aimaster blades --> Europa-List message posted by: RobsonPR Warp Drive is in Iowa. The phone number on the blade lying in my lap at the moment is(515)357.6000 USA. >From Peter Robson Kit 406 75hrs New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Krzyzewski" Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Fwd: aimaster blades > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" > > Well they were still in business ten minutes ago and the web site is > working. > > Tony > > > ======================================================================== > = > I've been trying to look up http://www.airmasterpropellers.com/ since I > got this email and the site is down. Airmaster is still in business > right? Or did I miss something..... > > Steved > ---------------- > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:59 AM PST US From: "Bryan Allsop" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" Subject: Europa-List: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 > keep a reserve list. Please indicate if you would like to go on this > list should you not make the initial selection. Completion of the form > below would help me with the administration. > > Regards > > Nigel Charles > > > > NAME Bryan Allsop AIRCRAFT TYPE ....Europa Mono. > > REGISTRATION Gbysa HOME AIRFIELD ..Coal Aston...... > > AVAILABILITY . SUNDAY > > > Cheers Bryan / Love fron Sadie ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:57 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke Hi Nigel, Hope you can find room for us , Cheers, Paddy On 30 Apr 2006, at 21:30, nigel charles wrote: > > > NAME ..Paddy Clarke.......... > > AIRCRAFT TYPE..Mono > > REGISTRATION ...GKIMM.... > > HOME AIRFIELD ...Wadswick..... > > AVAILABILITY . SATURDAY / SUNDAY / RESERVE --All > > Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:04 AM PST US From: "David Corbett" Subject: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large jubilee clips. This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it. Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their silencer? Many thanks, David G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:16 PM PST US From: "Bryan Allsop" Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" David, If it is like mine I think that you will find that the "muffler" is a heat shield. Removing it will expose the oil pipes to a lot of heat. Not to be recomended! Regards. Bryan Allsop. 912S Rotax, similar muffler. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Corbett" Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" > > My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has > had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large > jubilee clips. > > > This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to > serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it. > > > Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their > silencer? > > > Many thanks, > > > David > > G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week. > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:55 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Hi! David In the absence of Rotax advice I'll suggest it is a heat baffle to save heat rising upwards into whatever is above it ? Be careful since they aren't in the habit of putting spare metal in place without a reason. Regards Bob Harrison. Robt.C.Harrison -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Corbett Sent: 01 May 2006 19:22 Subject: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large jubilee clips. This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it. Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their silencer? Many thanks, David G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:50 PM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lydeway Fly-In 1st/2nd July 2006 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" Nigel Further to your e-mail and our discussion at Popham, I would be pleased to take up your invite to your BBQ if I have the required PFA approval for my aircraft in time. I will let you know closer to the time how I am getting on. Regards Steve Pitt ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:56:48 PM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: RE: Fwd: aimaster blades --> Europa-List message posted by: "Troy Maynor" <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<<< Europaphiles, This came in yesterday while I was out. Found it this morning. Is there anyone in the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, etc area that can give the fellow some help? Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done, baggage bay in. Completing the firewall-aft fuel system and fitting the instrument panel. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Preparing for ROTAX 914 installation. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 Begin forwarded message: > From: dmac11@telus.net > Date: April 29, 2006 18:33:58 CDT > To: rlborger@mac.com > Subject: aimaster blades > > > Hi There, > I recently bought a europa xs in Tampa FL. I hired a pilot to > fly it back > to Edmonton, Canada. Well he headed north this morning and had to > land in > Mariana FL. winds were high, on roll out he had a prop strike so he > is stuck > there and in need of some new airmaster blades or a warp drive > prop. I am > hoping to find somthing asap if you think you can help please give > me a call > or message. > Sincerely Dwayne McAllister > > E-mail dmac11@telus.net > ph. 780 474 0034 or cell 780 904 5473 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi All, Does anyone know whose Europa XS he bought or the kit number. Just curious. Troy Maynor N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic Left to finish: Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. Weaverville, NC USA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:47 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS 912 Exhaust query --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B David, The metal is indeed a heat shield and is best left in place. Check Europa's website for the appropriate fix for the loosening screws... Jeff - baby Blue 170 hours - Oily side up, on occasion... David Corbett wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Corbett" > > My 912 UL in an XS engine mount has now done 330 hours. The silencer has > had, since new, a metal "muffler" around it, held in place by 2 large > jubilee clips. > > > > This muffler will no longer stay in place and, as it does not appear to > serve any useful purpose, I am considering removing it. > > > > Is any other XS 912 user operating without this metal muffler around their > silencer? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > David > > G-BZAM - 5th permit renewal this week. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 4/28/2006 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:50 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Official Europa-List Usage Guidelines --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Please read over the Europa-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete Europa-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ****************************************************************************** Europa-List Usage Guidelines ****************************************************************************** The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Europa-List. You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein. Failure to use the Europa-List in the manner described below may result in the removal of the subscribers from the List. Europa-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Europa-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. 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The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.] ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:50 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Official Europa-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle Dear Listers, Please read over the Europa-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below. The complete Europa-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the following URL: http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/Europa-List.FAQ.html Thank you, Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such as Courier. 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Europa-List Policy Statement The purpose of the Europa-List is to provide a forum of discussion for things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established: - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc. - THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it. - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and responses. - Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address, aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary space in the archive. - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the web page or FAQ first. - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it easy to find threads in the archive. - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive can not be overstated! - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your response to the original poster. You might have to actively address your response with the original poster's email address. - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large. - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly contribute something valuable. - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing. - Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by List members promoting their respective products or items for sale should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to everyone, including those who provide products to the entire community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists. ------- [This is an automated posting.]