---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/04/06: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:51 AM - Re: Tuft Testing (Gilles Thesee) 2. 01:17 AM - Re: build cost (Dave Moore) 3. 01:49 AM - Re: build cost (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk) 4. 07:28 AM - Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? () 5. 08:04 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 6. 09:11 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Alan Burrows) 7. 09:44 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 8. 09:53 AM - Re: Tuft Testing (scrimm) 9. 10:02 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Richard Holder) 10. 10:08 AM - First Flight G-DDBD (Brian Davies) 11. 10:09 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (scrimm) 12. 10:32 AM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (scrimm) 13. 11:00 AM - Re: First Flight G-DDBD (Steven Pitt) 14. 11:09 AM - Leopard skin curtains......... (Fergus Kyle) 15. 12:00 PM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Paul McAllister) 16. 12:18 PM - Re: First Flight G-DDBD (R.C.Harrison) 17. 12:38 PM - Re: build cost (Bryan Allsop) 18. 01:45 PM - Re: First Flight G-DDBD (Rowland Carson) 19. 02:17 PM - Re: First Flight G-DDBD (Jeff B) 20. 02:18 PM - Re: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? (Jeff B) 21. 03:16 PM - Re: First Flight G-DDBD (rlborger) 22. 05:50 PM - Re: Tour de France (Dari Sagar) 23. 06:28 PM - Dirt & Debris (Jim Butcher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:07 AM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tuft Testing --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee Duncan McFadyean a crit : > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan McFadyean" > > Why? > The top of the cowl (towards the windscreen and away from the nose) is a > high pressure area, whereas the sides of the cowl are low pressure. > > Hi Duncan and all, Remember, though, that one has to determine where the pressure distribution changes from low pressure to higher pressure. What you mention is OK at the very foot of the windscreen. As long as the airflow accelerates, the pressure is low, and a NACA scoop will not flow in the right sense. I know of several designs where NACA scoops are BLOWING air instead of letting it in, to the surprise/dismay of their builder or designer ;-) My two cents, Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:15 AM PST US From: "Dave Moore" Subject: Re: Europa-List: build cost --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Moore" Danny, Bryan & All, Congratulations to Bryan on an excellent article in 'Today's Pilot'. It = is a great credit to Bryan and 'Sadie' in particular, and to the Europa = breed in general. (I have to say this, as I'm hoping to fly to Colditz = with Bryan in a couple of weeks time..!!). Indeed, a very sound and = pragmatic feature on the Europa XS, which I hope will boost the type's = sales. Well done, Bryan. As to cost... I started building Monowheel 550 in 2003 and have kept a = fair account of costs. I will be lucky to get the thing into the air = for less than GBP55K (perhaps nearer GBP60K) & that's with a second hand = Rotax. I guess that's in line with your build cost, Danny. =20 I'd concur that a 2006 cost would indeed be GBP79+K. (I'm talking as a = UK builder). However, not a moment's regret. I just hope my good lady doesn't read = the Europa List..! Dave. Monowheel #550. =20 Aberdeen, UK ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:49:55 AM PST US From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: build cost --> Europa-List message posted by: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Dave, I agree whole heartedly, no regrets. ( specially as I've finished the messy bits ) Hell it's only money :-) Danny. Dave Moore wrote: >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Moore" > >Danny, Bryan & All, > >Congratulations to Bryan on an excellent article in 'Today's Pilot'. It = >is a great credit to Bryan and 'Sadie' in particular, and to the Europa = >breed in general. (I have to say this, as I'm hoping to fly to Colditz = >with Bryan in a couple of weeks time..!!). Indeed, a very sound and = >pragmatic feature on the Europa XS, which I hope will boost the type's = >sales. Well done, Bryan. > >As to cost... I started building Monowheel 550 in 2003 and have kept a = >fair account of costs. I will be lucky to get the thing into the air = >for less than GBP55K (perhaps nearer GBP60K) & that's with a second hand = >Rotax. I guess that's in line with your build cost, Danny. =20 > >I'd concur that a 2006 cost would indeed be GBP79+K. (I'm talking as a = >UK builder). > >However, not a moment's regret. I just hope my good lady doesn't read = >the Europa List..! > >Dave. > >Monowheel #550. =20 >Aberdeen, UK > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:28 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? From: --> Europa-List message posted by: Curious 1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into your tank? 2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to complete filling tank before bedtime? 3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when you are going somewhere away from home? a) Don't do it and buy 100LL? b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when full? c) Other? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:43 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Ron, I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport with a 914 mono, and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination problems. Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V transfer pumps mentioned by the UK flyers. Lifting 25 litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an effort. Dave A061 Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 05/04/2006 10:22 AM Please respond to europa-list To: cc: Subject: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Curious 1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into your tank? 2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to complete filling tank before bedtime? 3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when you are going somewhere away from home? a) Don't do it and buy 100LL? b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when full? c) Other? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:12 AM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" Hi Dave I supplied these pumps over here in the U.K. and still have a few left if anyone is interested. I have a second home in Daytona Fl. And will be over there in June for a month, so if anyone on your side of the pond wants one of these great little pumps, then I can bring some over with me and mail them out from there. Kind Regards Alan Burrows -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Sent: 04 May 2006 16:03 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Ron, I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport with a 914 mono, and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination problems. Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V transfer pumps mentioned by the UK flyers. Lifting 25 litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an effort. Dave A061 Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 05/04/2006 10:22 AM Please respond to europa-list To: cc: Subject: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Curious 1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into your tank? 2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to complete filling tank before bedtime? 3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when you are going somewhere away from home? a) Don't do it and buy 100LL? b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when full? c) Other? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:24 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Alan, Much appreciated. If you could let me know the cost including shipping, I will send a money order. It's probably as easy to send from the UK to Canada, as it is to ship up from the States, and may be more chance of it getting through without taxes being added, Thanks, Dave "Alan Burrows" Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 05/04/2006 12:11 PM Please respond to europa-list To: cc: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows" Hi Dave I supplied these pumps over here in the U.K. and still have a few left if anyone is interested. I have a second home in Daytona Fl. And will be over there in June for a month, so if anyone on your side of the pond wants one of these great little pumps, then I can bring some over with me and mail them out from there. Kind Regards Alan Burrows -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Sent: 04 May 2006 16:03 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Ron, I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport with a 914 mono, and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination problems. Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V transfer pumps mentioned by the UK flyers. Lifting 25 litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an effort. Dave A061 Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 05/04/2006 10:22 AM Please respond to europa-list To: cc: Subject: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Curious 1) What is favorite way of those flying to filter fuel before it goes into your tank? 2) Has anyone ever tried to put lets say 2 parallel Pro-805 filters in neck of a funnel? Or would that be too much restriction if you wanted to complete filling tank before bedtime? 3) What is favorite way of carrying gas from a Mogas pump to plane when you are going somewhere away from home? a) Don't do it and buy 100LL? b) Use aux tank to transport fuel, or is it too heavy to put in plane when full? c) Other? Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:27 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: Tuft Testing From: "scrimm" --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" Kingsley, If you look at the following link http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Fun-Non-Build-Pictures&id=P3180001&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php you will see 2 NACA vents. The lower one is for the air intake. The next link http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album48&id=dscn0981&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php shows the air intake from the hose to manifold then on to the carbs. The smaller upper NACA vent is an additional fresh air inlet to an eyeball vent. Both of these NACA vents provide very good air supply/flows. While there hasn't been any tuft testing, so far they work great. Steve ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:47 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder > Ron, > > I don't filter mogas, nor does my friend at the airport > with a 914 mono, > > and he has 500+ hours on it with no contamination > problems. > > Has anyone in the US / Canada sourced one of the 12V > transfer pumps mentioned by the UK flyers. Lifting 25 > litres to the top of the fuselage is a bit of an > effort. > > Dave A061 Alan's transfer pumps are 3v - they use two D cells ! Not 12 v ! Richard G-OWWW High Cross, waiting for new Permit return from the PFA ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:44 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" G-DDBD took to the air for the first time at Blackbushe today, in the = very capable hands of Pete Jeffers. =20 It flew well, requiring no major adjustments so far. One or two minor = bits to adjust, but nothing too significant.- What a relief!! =20 Testing abandoned after about 1.5 hours when the cross wind got =93a bit sporting=94 to quote Pete. =20 Looking back over the last five years of building I am very conscious of = the many ideas I have incorporated from this forum, the Europa Club and many other people only too willing to share their experience with a first = time builder. I am particularly thankful to my inspector, Ron Speer, and to = Andy and his team at Europa and to my wife Donna for their help when things = got tough. There was always a solution to every problem.=20 =20 I have just got home from the airfield and looked in the mirror and = spotted early stages of =93Europa Grin=94. I can=92t wait to fly it! =20 For the record- =20 Europa XS Mono, Rotax 912S, Airmaster VP,=20 Build time 1800 hrs Weight 865lbs (heavy leather interior) =20 Brian Davies =20 Trainee Europa Pilot. Trainee Europa Club Membership Secretary --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: = 03/05/2006 =20 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:19 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? From: "scrimm" --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" Ron, I have 3, 5 gallon plastic fuel containers that are used only for aircraft (Mogas) fuel. I refuel the aircraft just prior to the next flight, and purchase that fuel while en-route to the airport. I do not filter the fuel prior to putting it in the aircraft since it is fresh from the gas station (making the big assumption their fuel is clean). Also prior to adding fuel to the aircraft or moving the aircraft, not wanting to disturb any settled contaminants, I sump all of the fuel drains into a glass quart jar. I sump about a pint from each drain. And depending on that fuels condition, I put it in my auto since I can and not back into the aircraft. As one who has used small fuel trucks for 30 years in the commercial helicopter industry, if I had a small 100 to 150 gallon portable fuel tank, then I would incorporate a 2 filter system for both particles and a water separation filter. Steve ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:32:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: RE: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? From: "scrimm" --> Europa-List message posted by: "scrimm" Alan, Can you provide some pictures or a link for the transfer pump your talking about? Thanks, Steve ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:05 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: "Steven Pitt" Well done Brian - Pete said that he was expecting to fly yours before mine so I hope to join you shortly. Steve Pitt #403 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:09:13 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Leopard skin curtains......... --> Europa-List message posted by: "Fergus Kyle" .......is so yesterday. Ferg Kyle Europa A064 914 Classic ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:00:12 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Ron, I use one of the funnels AC Sprice sell that have a fine mesh filter. The claim is that it is fine enough to remove water. Humping the 6 gallon jerry cans is getting a bit old though..... Paul ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:18:18 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" Congratulations Brian Well done. Regards Bob Harrison Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Davies Sent: 04 May 2006 18:07 Subject: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" G-DDBD took to the air for the first time at Blackbushe today, in the = very capable hands of Pete Jeffers. ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:38:44 PM PST US From: "Bryan Allsop" Subject: Re: Europa-List: build cost --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" Thanks for those kind words Dave, I promise that when you come with me to Colditz that I will have the GPS the right way up. According to the photograph we are going to have to fly upside down or backwards to find our way there. I don't fancy either. Cheers Bryan Do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Moore" Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 9:19 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: build cost > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dave Moore" > > Danny, Bryan & All, > > Congratulations to Bryan on an excellent article in 'Today's Pilot'. It = > is a great credit to Bryan and 'Sadie' in particular, and to the Europa = > breed in general. (I have to say this, as I'm hoping to fly to Colditz = > with Bryan in a couple of weeks time..!!). Indeed, a very sound and = > pragmatic feature on the Europa XS, which I hope will boost the type's = > sales. Well done, Bryan. > > As to cost... I started building Monowheel 550 in 2003 and have kept a = > fair account of costs. I will be lucky to get the thing into the air = > for less than GBP55K (perhaps nearer GBP60K) & that's with a second hand = > Rotax. I guess that's in line with your build cost, Danny. =20 > > I'd concur that a 2006 cost would indeed be GBP79+K. (I'm talking as a = > UK builder). > > However, not a moment's regret. I just hope my good lady doesn't read = > the Europa List..! > > Dave. > > Monowheel #550. =20 > Aberdeen, UK > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:35 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2006-05-04 18:07 +0100 Brian Davies wrote: >G-DDBD took to the air for the first time at Blackbushe today Brian - congratulations! >Trainee Europa Pilot. Trainee Europa Club Membership Secretary You're training well - you posted all the answers to the questions the the Membership Secretary asks after each first flight! regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website www.europaclub.org.uk ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:17:11 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight G-DDBD --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B Brian, Congratulations on your success. I know you are thrilled... Jeff - Baby Blue 171 hours and still grinnin' Brian Davies wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" > > G-DDBD took to the air for the first time at Blackbushe today, in the = > very > capable hands of Pete Jeffers. > > =20 > > It flew well, requiring no major adjustments so far. One or two minor = > bits > to adjust, but nothing too significant.- What a relief!! > > =20 > > Testing abandoned after about 1.5 hours when the cross wind got =93a bit > sporting=94 to quote Pete. > > =20 > > Looking back over the last five years of building I am very conscious of = > the > many ideas I have incorporated from this forum, the Europa Club and many > other people only too willing to share their experience with a first = > time > builder. I am particularly thankful to my inspector, Ron Speer, and to = > Andy > and his team at Europa and to my wife Donna for their help when things = > got > tough. There was always a solution to every problem.=20 > > =20 > > I have just got home from the airfield and looked in the mirror and = > spotted > early stages of =93Europa Grin=94. I can=92t wait to fly it! > > =20 > > For the record- > > =20 > > Europa XS Mono, Rotax 912S, Airmaster VP,=20 > > Build time 1800 hrs > > Weight 865lbs (heavy leather interior) > > =20 > > Brian Davies > > =20 > > Trainee Europa Pilot. Trainee Europa Club Membership Secretary > > > --=20 > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: = > 03/05/2006 > =20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:18:13 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Favorite way to filter and carry fuel? --> Europa-List message posted by: Jeff B Paul, Try the 5 gal. It's lighter... :) Jeff - Baby Blue 171 hours do not archive Paul McAllister wrote: Humping the 6 gallon jerry > cans is getting a bit old though..... > > Paul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.3/331 - Release Date: 5/3/2006 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:42 PM PST US Cc: rlborger Subject: Europa-List: Re: First Flight G-DDBD From: rlborger --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger Brian, Congratulations and well done! Keep us posted as flight testing progresses. Great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:50:45 PM PST US From: "Dari Sagar" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tour de France --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dari Sagar" David, We won't be able to join you on the tour this year as we are in South America and will be here until November. Hope that the tour goes without any snags and that you all have good weather throughout the trip. Safe flying....or is the term Blue skies?! Regards, Dari and Gail >From: "David Joyce" >To: "Europa list" >Subject: Europa-List: Tour de France >Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:39:11 +0100 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" > > >I have had problems with my broadband which now seem to be sorted. These >caused me to fail to receive several messages which I know were sent to >me. >It may be that some were expressing interest in the Tour de France. Can I >ask anyone who did email me who has not had a reply to copy the email >originally sent, please? > Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:28:22 PM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Dirt & Debris --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Flying our mono wheel from a grass strip. I notice a lot of dirt and = bits of grass everywhere in the cabin - on the center console, in the = baggage foot wells and even on the narrow shelf of the rear D panel. = Also lots of dirt and debris in the rear of the fuselage - especially 1 = to 2 feet aft of the rear baggage bay bulkhead (only noticeable with its = D panel removed). I have seals on the MG airbrake lever and a lay in = place cover over the flap / wheel retract lever (similar to Jim Brown). = Just recently sealed the panel behind the main tire better. Have others found ways to seal things better and keep the plane a bit = cleaner inside? Jim Butcher N241BW Still testing, but happy!!