Europa-List Digest Archive

Sat 05/20/06


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:16 AM - Pitch servo indicator adjustment ()
     2. 01:54 AM - Re: Tour de France (Robert Hitchcock)
     3. 02:26 AM - Re: Tour de France (Gilles Thesee)
     4. 08:48 AM - Re: Steel nose wheel springs (bill bell)
     5. 12:39 PM - Re: Nosewheel Shimmy (steve v.)
     6. 03:36 PM - Re: Steel nose wheel springs (Rowland Carson)
     7. 06:27 PM - Re: Nico Groot Springs (KARL HEINDL)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:16:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Pitch servo indicator adjustment
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Working on making my Antiservo tabs do what they are supposed to do, I found out that my Ray Allen servo indicator does not indicate at neutral when I have tabs giving equal travel in both directions. After ripping apart the servo, it was found there is no internal adjustment, mechanical or electrical. I could made a mechanical shim, but hard to get it stuck in place permanent to my liking. Went the electrical trim route. By putting a external variable potentiometer in series with the internal potentiometer, I adjusted the external one till indicator was centered. In my case it was in series with the orange wire, and 230 ohms was needed. I will install a fixed 230 ohm resistor. If yours is off, it may need the resistor on the other side of the internal potentiometer, not the orange. Note when you take apart your servo to look close at the fool sliding internal potentiometer, you will probably too pop out the slider drive home spring. To reassemble, open up a 1/16" diameter cotter pin, and use a triangular file to make a notch in the tip. That along with the small blade on your mini Swiss army knife has things fitting together in short order. Ron Parigoris BTW I did not cut the Anti-Servo T-Bar slot according to scribe in the aft lower fuse. What mine needed was a bit off compared to scribed lines.


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    Time: 01:54:07 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Hitchcock" <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net>
    Subject: Re: Tour de France
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Robert Hitchcock" <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net> Hi David Looks like a super itinerary. The only slight issue is that for the option of La Fert Alais, LFFQ. (Which I last flew into, wow was really 10 years ago!) I had to have permission in writing beforehand from the museum specifying all the usual details and that I had an obligation to speak in French. Which I fortunately did. (I knew that French "A" level would come in handy one day). The airfield would generally refuse casual access to all but home based aircraft. ...........and yes hotels locally are impossible. The time when I flew in 10 years ago there was a rustic cheap hotel in the village, that has now gone. The only things nearby now are the impersonnel Formule 1 type. Giles do you see this as a realistic option for a group of Europas? Regards Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tour de France > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee > <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > David Joyce a crit : >> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" >> <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk> >> >> Gilles, Many thanks, helpful as always. Careless of me to miss that in >> the >> Bottlang! Perhaps we may arrange to meet up somewhere? We are a >> relatively >> small party this year- 5 planes. Regards, David >> > David, > > You're welcome. > The airplane I build with a buddy is based at Vienne (LFHH), a little > south from Lyon. Small grass field (2000 ft runway), 100 LL gas, no > landing fees. Not much hangar room, though. > > Do not hesitate to publish your detailed itinerary on the list. > > Regards, > Gilles Thesee > Grenoble, France > http://contrails.free.fr > > >


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    Time: 02:26:17 AM PST US
    From: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
    Subject: Re: Tour de France
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > The only slight issue is that for the option of La Fert Alais, LFFQ. > > > The airfield would generally refuse casual access to all but home based > aircraft. > > ...........and yes hotels locally are impossible. The time when I flew in 10 > years ago there was a rustic cheap hotel in the village, that has now gone. > The only things nearby now are the impersonnel Formule 1 type. > > Giles do you see this as a realistic option for a group of Europas? > > Bob and all, The Amicale Jean-Baptiste Salis Association is in charge of the airfield. I finally got them on the phone. Very friendly. The gentleman said "why not", but needs precise details. Here is why : they are preparing their airshow of 3rd and 4th June (lots and lots of warbirds). The airfield will be closed the week before (NOTAM). You can apply for an arrival after 4th June. He gave a FAX number : +33-1-645 77655 Hope this helps, Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr


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    Time: 08:48:49 AM PST US
    From: bill bell <junkaddress05@yahoo.co.uk>
    Subject: Steel nose wheel springs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: bill bell <junkaddress05@yahoo.co.uk> Thanks Tim, I knew there must be a good reason, and I imagined it must be something along those lines but I am surprised it makes a difference and I would never have guessed in advance. I'm grateful you have saved me finding out the hard way! Best wishes Bill Time: 02:25:13 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Europa-List: Steel nose wheel springs --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Weert" <tim.weert@hccnet.nl> Hi Bill, Durig testing the springs in my bird, I discovered that the right spring touches the rod between the springs. In concert with Nico I placed a piece of nylon between the spring and the rod. By using two mirror springs you are able to place both springs at exactly the same place, but in mirror configuration. Due to this the forces on all parts are equally devided in the nosegear structure. Than this problem is solved. Regards, Tim. Heerhugowaard, The Netherlands. #460 PH-JAI XS TG 914 AP332 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill bell" <junkaddress05@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:49 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Steel nose wheel springs > --> Europa-List message posted by: bill bell > --> <junkaddress05@yahoo.co.uk> > > Thanks to Nico Groot , Ian Rickard and all those involved in producing > mod > 71 and making it available to the rest of us- and the factory. Having now > read the PFA paperwork I'm puzzled as to why the springs are a left and > right handed pair rather than two identical springs. > I'm sure there is a good reason and perhaps I should ask Nico or Ian > directly, but I thought the answer would be of general interest.... > > > Bill & Sue > > Trigear 465 fitting the springs... > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com


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    Time: 12:39:57 PM PST US
    Subject: RE: Nosewheel Shimmy
    From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> Have any trigear builders tried DAMPING GREASE, it is available from NEWGATE SIMMS LTD. in chester , tel. 01244 660771 , it is available in a wide range of vicosities althogh i found that grade NYE 774VH OR PG44A have transformed my streak free castoring nosewheel - it no longer shimmies at any touch down speed ( 55-65knots no wind) and has not required tightening in over a year. steve vestuti #573 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 03:36:05 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net>
    Subject: Re: Steel nose wheel springs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> At 2006-05-19 15:48 +0300 Jos Okhuijsen wrote: >Let's call it Mod the Great Hey, Jos, steady on there! No need to poke anyone in the eye with a stick! I don't see why, as the originator of the idea, Nico shouldn't claim credit for his baby. I think he was just responding to a bit of confusion about the common name for the mod. Compare with the situation if I asked anyone here whether they had incorporated PFA mod 10371 - I'd probably get blank looks - but if I asked whether they had a Singleton rudder drive most people would get the point straight away! regards Rowland -- | Wilma & Rowland Carson http://home.clara.net/rowil/ | <rowil@clara.net> ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...


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    Time: 06:27:09 PM PST US
    From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Nico Groot Springs
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Hear, hear Graham. Apparently, Nico had the idea, did all the engineering, and put up with the hassle of getting it implemented. And the manufacturer was probably hoping, quite rightly, to get ongoing orders. I am sure there was a reason, but I don't know why the other guys decided to take this over in the UK. The left/right idea could have been easily accomodated by the Dutch manufacturer. I prefer the stainless steel product from the Dutch, and I prefer the left/right idea from the UK manufacturer who makes them in galvanized steel. I have a galvanized trailer and it is rusting in a number of places. The sole distribution rights could then have been given to Europa ,or Nico himself as Europa showed no interest initially. I ordered a set from Jac, as I need it now to replace my sagging bungee. There is nothing wrong with the bungee (or shock cord), but rubber does need maintenance and periodic replacement. My springs are lost in shipping, seem to have ended up on a sailing ship going in the wrong direction. Karl >From: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Steel nose wheel springs >Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 18:54:40 +0100 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson <rowil@clara.net> > >At 2006-05-19 15:48 +0300 Jos Okhuijsen wrote: > > >Let's call it Mod the Great > >Hey, Jos, steady on there! No need to poke anyone in the eye with a stick! > >I don't see why, as the originator of the idea, Nico shouldn't claim >credit for his baby. > >I think he was just responding to a bit of confusion about the common >name for the mod. Compare with the situation if I asked anyone here >whether they had incorporated PFA mod 10371 - I'd probably get blank >looks - but if I asked whether they had a Singleton rudder drive most >people would get the point straight away! > >regards > >Rowland >-- >| Wilma & Rowland Carson http://home.clara.net/rowil/ >| <rowil@clara.net> ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... > >




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