Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/05/06


Total Messages Posted: 12



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     1. 12:01 AM - Re: mono wheel trailer (Pete Lawless)
     2. 09:46 AM - Hot and heavy takeoff yields no thrills (GLENN CROWDER)
     3. 01:12 PM - Re: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Simon Smith)
     4. 01:43 PM - Re: Airmaster prop adjustment (Dean Seitz)
     5. 01:45 PM - Re: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Dean Seitz)
     6. 03:00 PM - Nose gear alignment (Graham Singleton)
     7. 03:52 PM - Europa Trike Nose Wheel Castering Spindle Event. (R.C.Harrison)
     8. 05:26 PM - Re: Airmaster prop adjustment (Paul McAllister)
     9. 09:15 PM - Modular fuel system for 914? ()
    10. 09:49 PM - Re: Europa Trike Nose Wheel Castering Spindle Event. (Michael Grass)
    11. 10:06 PM - Re: Nose gear assembly twisted (Michael Grass)
    12. 10:24 PM - Re: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (KENNETH D HILL)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:01:47 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: mono wheel trailer
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info> Hi Jerry I have recently bought a second hand factory trailer and found it very difficult to get the aeroplane on by hand, chocked wheels and a couple of people. I now have a winch at a cost of 16 UK pounds from Towsure online. There was just room to fit the winch at the front behind the tow hitch and I have an inverted U shaped bracket bolted to the channel with winch bolted to that. Having pushed the aeroplane onto the trailer I thought the amount of force required was a bit more than I would like to put through the tail wheel so I wrap my rope round the main wheel axel on the left, opposite side to the brake, and that works fine. Regards Pete


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    Time: 09:46:27 AM PST US
    From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Cc: gcrowder2@hotmail.com
    Subject: Hot and heavy takeoff yields no thrills
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> Just did my hottest and heaviest takeoff so far yesterday with my EA81 powered Classic Mono. Pilot 226 lbs (ouch - where did that new 20 lbs come from since last fall?), passenger 201 lbs, 12 gal fuel, aircraft wt 930 lbs, OAT 97F, field elev 5100 ft, density altitude 8350 ft - Yikes!. I added 2 lbs air pressure to the tire bringing it up to 20lbs to speed the takeoff roll. Raised the tail early as possible to build speed, held it on the runway a bit longer than normal, gingerly pulled back the stick, went up about a foot, then bounced once and was flying. That sure is a hard working little wing! Climb rate with passenger down to about 500 fpm. Coolant temps started at 180, went to 200 then dropped to 190. Oil temps went from 190 to 230 then dropped to 210. Climbed up to 9000 ft to get cool and flew down the front range over Boulder, Colorado. DA at 9000 ft was 12,500 ft! Fun flite! Glenn


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    Time: 01:12:01 PM PST US
    From: "Simon Smith" <jodel@nildram.co.uk>
    Subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    I think you figures might be a little suspect. The Rotax 914 Operators manual give Take off performance as 5800rpm, 39.9 inHG and 8.7 us gph. Max continuous as 5500rpm, 35.4 inHG and 7.2 us gph. (ref pages 8-2 & 10-1) Are you sure that your fuel flowe sensor is correctly calibrated? Are these airspeeds IAS or TAS? Simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KENNETH D HILL Sent: 05 June 2006 00:24 Subject: Re: Europa-List: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Duncan, I'm afraid this data will get rearranged but here it goes. This test was done at 5500' at a max weight of 1450lbs. with very little deviation from standard day temp. Airspeeds are within 1 kt. These airspeeds appear to stay constant up to 12,500 (the highest I've observed) 1. 100kts, FF 3.8, RPM 4500, MF 25. 2. 116kts, FF 5.0, RPM 4800, MF 28 3. 129kts, FF 6.2, RPM 5000, MF 30 4. 134kts, FF 7.6, RPM 5250, MF 33 5. 140kts, FF 8.3, RPM 5500, MF 35 6 148kts, FF 10, RPM 5800, MF 40 I'd appreciate if others would post there data. Ken Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq


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    Time: 01:43:28 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Airmaster prop adjustment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Here are the numbers out of the rotax operators manual: Takeoff power 5800rpm 39"mp Max cont power 5500rpm 35"mp 75% power 5000rpm 31"mp 65% power 4800rpm 29"mp 55% power 4300rpm 28"mp I did once see another chart in the book that differed a little on the rpm's but can't find it now. Ever since I installed the wheel and leg fairings its flown a constant 130kts at sea level to around 2000'. If weather permits I'll go up around 7500' this weekend and see what the different power setting give in speed. Although I always fly at cruise on the prop which is 5000rpm. I do not have the europa speed kit. My main gear wheels are from aircraft spruce and I made the nose wheel and all the leg fairings. Dean Seitz N284A -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster prop adjustment --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, The only charts I have found for the 914 are a real "magnifying glass job" and I have a heck of a time trying to do the interpolations I'd be interested in what folks think 28" @ 5000 RPM is in % of power. I have always though it was 65%, but I am not really sure. Paul do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dean Seitz Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster prop adjustment


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    Time: 01:45:21 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> I will get some definite numbers this weekend if weather permits. Dean Seitz -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KENNETH D HILL Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:24 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Duncan, I'm afraid this data will get rearranged but here it goes. This test was done at 5500' at a max weight of 1450lbs. with very little deviation from standard day temp. Airspeeds are within 1 kt. These airspeeds appear to stay constant up to 12,500 (the highest I've observed) 1. 100kts, FF 3.8, RPM 4500, MF 25. 2. 116kts, FF 5.0, RPM 4800, MF 28 3. 129kts, FF 6.2, RPM 5000, MF 30 4. 134kts, FF 7.6, RPM 5250, MF 33 5. 140kts, FF 8.3, RPM 5500, MF 35 6 148kts, FF 10, RPM 5800, MF 40 I'd appreciate if others would post there data. Ken Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:


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    Time: 03:00:09 PM PST US
    From: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk>
    Subject: Nose gear alignment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <graham@gflight.f9.co.uk> --> Europa-List message posted by: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com> Graham, would a standard AN4-34 be okay ? Karl Karl sure, that is exactly what I meant. AN bolts are very strong but also quite ductile, they don't crack but stretch or bend without letting go Graham


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    Time: 03:52:23 PM PST US
    From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Europa Trike Nose Wheel Castering Spindle Event.
    Hi! Everyone For the avoidance of doubt I can confirm that the Castoring Spindle on a new Nose gear and Leg Assembly which I collected today from the Europa Factory is indeed fastened in to the wheel yoke by Locktite and a roll pin and the spindle only projects into the aluminium yoke by 1=94 with the roll pin about half way up the penetration. There is adequate yoke metal for the spindle to extend another 1=94 plus =85into the yoke=85=85=85and dare I say it room for another =BC=94 roll pin from port to starboard ! =85=85.but there was no sign of locktite on my failed item. (Which is not to say there never had been ) Regards to all Especially the doubters! Bob Harrison G-PTAG. Robt.C.Harrison


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    Time: 05:26:57 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Airmaster prop adjustment
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Dean, That helps, sort of. I have a constant speed prop, and during cruise I run at 5000 rpm, however from the charts I have I find it difficult to interpolate what % power settings MP's from 24" through to 34" would actually translate to. I suspect that you are looking at a larger chart than the small one in the engine logbook. If so, are you able to tell me the following: 34" @ 5000 rpm = xx% 33" @ 5000 rpm = yy% 32" @ 5000 rpm = ww% .. .. 24" @ 5000 rpm = zz% Thanks, Paul do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dean Seitz Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 3:42 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster prop adjustment --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Here are the numbers out of the rotax operators manual: Takeoff power 5800rpm 39"mp Max cont power 5500rpm 35"mp 75% power 5000rpm 31"mp 65% power 4800rpm 29"mp 55% power 4300rpm 28"mp I did once see another chart in the book that differed a little on the rpm's but can't find it now. Ever since I installed the wheel and leg fairings its flown a constant 130kts at sea level to around 2000'. If weather permits I'll go up around 7500' this weekend and see what the different power setting give in speed. Although I always fly at cruise on the prop which is 5000rpm. I do not have the europa speed kit. My main gear wheels are from aircraft spruce and I made the nose wheel and all the leg fairings. Dean Seitz N284A -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster prop adjustment --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net> Hi all, The only charts I have found for the 914 are a real "magnifying glass job" and I have a heck of a time trying to do the interpolations I'd be interested in what folks think 28" @ 5000 RPM is in % of power. I have always though it was 65%, but I am not really sure. Paul do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dean Seitz Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:22 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster prop adjustment


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    Time: 09:15:39 PM PST US
    Subject: Modular fuel system for 914?
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Thx. to those who shared information with me on their 914 fuel systems. After considering options, I am going with 2 Andir 375 Gasculators (larger filter area compared to Mini) and pumps series with bypass valves as per Europa latest schematic. Instead of using "T"s for inital split from 1 line to 2, and the last combine of 2 lines to 1, will use a "Y"s. This plumbing arrangement can easily make for a real Rats nest that will not be fun to replace hoses or components when needed. I am thinking pretty hard about making a modular fuel system. Very simply a piece of 1/8" plywood ~9.25" wide and ~ 18" long and mount all components and plumbing to it. The only connection to aeroplane would be 1 incoming fuel line from selector, and 1 outgoing line going up front. This modular fuel system would be removable with a few pieces of hardware and come complete out through the Rear Bulkhead D panel. There would be a flange on the baggage support ribs, and just aft of the ribs a box with top missing on the floor of the fuse. The gasculators will be mounted to the modular fuel system, and when all is in place the gascuators will be inside the sealed box. There will be a hinged access door with a Hartwell latch to allow easy cleaning of filters from outside the aeroplane that exposes the inside of the box (2 gasculators). Has anyone made a modular fuel system? Any pictures? Any comments appreciated. (Please beat up, looking for any negatives) Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 09:49:12 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Europa Trike Nose Wheel Castering Spindle Event.
    Hi Bob, I just had a look at my nose wheel again. There is still some blue - greenish residue on both sides around the shaft and it looks like it has not been wiped off properly which I believe is some sort of adhesive (Redux or Loctite?). I agree that the shaft could be a little longer inside the casted fork but my guess is that Europa might wanted to save some weight. ----- Original Message ----- From: R.C.Harrison To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: Europa Trike Nose Wheel Castering Spindle Event. Hi! Everyone For the avoidance of doubt I can confirm that the Castoring Spindle on a new Nose gear and Leg Assembly which I collected today from the Europa Factory is indeed fastened in to the wheel yoke by Locktite and a roll pin and the spindle only projects into the aluminium yoke by 1" with the roll pin about half way up the penetration. There is adequate yoke metal for the spindle to extend another 1" plus .into the yoke...and dare I say it room for another =BC" roll pin from port to starboard ! ...but there was no sign of locktite on my failed item. (Which is not to say there never had been ) Regards to all Especially the doubters! Bob Harrison G-PTAG. Robt.C.Harrison


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    Time: 10:06:41 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Nose gear assembly twisted
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net> Thanks for your reply Dean All, additionally to the misaligned nose gear assembly I discovered an additional misalignment due to the way the landing gear is mounted. I will get another 1/2 deg of a twist to the left bringing the total out of alignment to aprox. 1.5 deg. Now I wonder what others would do (or have done). After looking into this a little further and thinking on how to correct this I came up with 3 possible solutions. 1. Forget about it and life with the error thinking this would be within tolerance.The plane should pull then always a little to the left. 2. Fix it by applying careful heat and separate the assembly. Clean the adhesive off and rebond the nose gear leg back into place with everything properly aligned. Then redrill at the rear bushing at 90 deg to the original orientation. The front bushing could be drilled in a 45 deg orientation. The question here would be if this would harm the integrity of the nose leg and what adhesive to use. 3. Order a new nose gear assembly. (that would still leave the 1/2 deg off due to the landing gear frame mounting) I would appreciate the feedback and comments from others. Michael Grass A266 Trigear Detroit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose gear assembly twisted > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Dean Seitz" <daseitz@cfl.rr.com> > > Yes, mine was very much off. It was just went the old Europa was going > out. > They were supposed to send me a new one. Never happened. Last year at Sun > n > Fun, Andy remembered it and the New Europa 04 sent me a new one no charge. > Very nice of them to do it. > > Yes it is held in with two bolts and locktight. It should be straight > vertical. > > Dean Seitz > N284A Europa XS tri gear 914 Airmaster > 92 hours so far. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Grass > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:35 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Nose gear assembly twisted > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net> > > Hallo group, > > I am just about ready to mount my nose gear. Going to some web sites to > see what others have done I noticed that Dean Seitz's nose gear was > twisted about 2.9 deg to the left (in direction of the flight). I > checked mine and it is 1.0 deg twisted to the left. I wonder if some > twist to the left is intentional and if so , how much? If not, I wonder > what other have done in order to correct it since this is set in place > by Europa and bonded in with what looks like loctite and secured with an > AN bolt across. > > >


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    Time: 10:24:39 PM PST US
    From: KENNETH D HILL <kandshill2@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
    Hi Simon, I wish they were. I recently put over 1000 miles on N214KS and the fuel required to fill the tank agreed to within .1/.2 gallons of what the gauge said I used. Plugs look normal. Ken Simon Smith <jodel@nildram.co.uk> wrote: I think you figures might be a little suspect. The Rotax 914 Operators manual give Take off performance as 5800rpm, 39.9 inHG and 8.7 us gph. Max continuous as 5500rpm, 35.4 inHG and 7.2 us gph. (ref pages 8-2 & 10-1) Are you sure that your fuel flowe sensor is correctly calibrated? Are these airspeeds IAS or TAS? Simon -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of KENNETH D HILL Sent: 05 June 2006 00:24 Subject: Re: Europa-List: [ Ken Hill ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Duncan, I'm afraid this data will get rearranged but here it goes. This test was done at 5500' at a max weight of 1450lbs. with very little deviation from standard day temp. Airspeeds are within 1 kt. These airspeeds appear to stay constant up to 12,500 (the highest I've observed) 1. 100kts, FF 3.8, RPM 4500, MF 25. 2. 116kts, FF 5.0, RPM 4800, MF 28 3. 129kts, FF 6.2, RPM 5000, MF 30 4. 134kts, FF 7.6, RPM 5250, MF 33 5. 140kts, FF 8.3, RPM 5500, MF 35 6 148kts, FF 10, RPM 5800, MF 40 I'd appreciate if others would post there data. Ken Duncan McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq




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