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1. 01:53 AM - Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Paul Stewart)
2. 03:49 AM - Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ivor.phillips)
3. 05:34 AM - Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Paul Stewart)
4. 09:48 AM - Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Matt Dralle)
5. 12:31 PM - Re: Caernarfon Sat 17 June (Trevpond@aol.com)
6. 03:20 PM - Re: Caernarfon Sat 17 June (David Joyce)
7. 09:06 PM - Zillions of Messages - Not... (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Matt
Am I correct in thinking we shouldn't be able to send attached files
- the latest runaway manged to contain a photo.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 16 Jun 2006, at 00:32, Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
>
>
> Sorry guys, I've been a little out of commission the last few days
> with an eye infection and haven't been able to check my email as
> regularly as normal. I'm getting better and am back to checking
> email again.
>
> I think it was Monday night that this little mail loop issue
> occurred. I fortunately caught it pretty early and I think only
> around 136 copies of the message made it to the List. Another 400
> or so were subsequently diverted!
>
> This problem is caused by a combination of two things. The details
> of exactly what happens is in the archives somewhere, but I'll
> paraphrase. The problem starts when someone Cc:'s the email list
> rather than putting it in the To: field. In and of itself, this
> doesn't cause a problem. The problem occurs later on some version
> of, I believe, a Microsoft Email Server. When the destination
> email address isn't available for some reason - like mailbx full,
> or just doesn't exist - the MSES sends a bounce email address back
> to the sender (in the case of the Matronics Email Lists, this would
> be "owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com which is directed to me
> as the administrator of the list). No problem so far, that how its
> all suppose to work. The problem is that the MSES also then Cc's a
> copy back to the actual List because the list was Cc'd on the
> original!! But this means that the MSES server gets another copy
> of the message, which in turn, causes the MSES to eventually fire!
> off yet another copy and you've got a giant mail loop.
>
> Anyway, I thought that I had put a stop to this little problem the
> last time it happened with some tricky filtering code, but in
> looking at my patch I have discovered that it didn't quite work
> (doh!). Can't really test it without pissing everyone off... :-)
>
> I think what I'm going to try is limiting posts to the list to only
> the To: field, and bouncing posts back to the sender if they try to
> Cc: the List. This should at least keep this particular problem
> from happening again. Actually, I might try rewriting the contents
> of the Cc: field into the To: field, then I won't have to bounce
> the message back. Anyway, I'm looking into it. Sorry for all the
> hassle!
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Admin.
>
>
> At 12:55 PM 6/15/2006 Thursday, you wrote:
>> Brian,
>> I am no longer receiving them. Only got about 200 then all clear.
>> Tim
>> Tim Ward
>> 12 Waiwetu Street,
>> Fendalton,
>> Christchurch, 8052
>> New Zealand
>>
>> Ph +64 3 3515166
>> Mobile 021 0640221
>> <mailto:ward.t@xtra.co.nz>ward.t@xtra.co.nz
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <mailto:bdskelly2@aol.com>bdskelly2@aol.com
>> To: <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>europa-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 6:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on
>> Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> Hi Tony:
>>
>> I have tried everything I know.
>>
>> 1>Deleting my original account.
>> 2>Attempting to contact Matt twice. No responce yet.
>> 3>Scanned for viruses more than once with updated definitions.
>>
>> I have absolutely NO idea why this is happening.
>>
>> I am no longer receiving them since my old email address was
>> terminated.
>>
>> Are you still receiving them as of today?
>>
>> I am so sorry guys. I do not know if it was something I did or if
>> the problem is on the other end.
>>
>> I hate it as much as you do. Hopefully Matt can Kill the thread
>> and then I can get my old email address Back!
>>
>> My Heart Felt apologies go to all.
>>
>> Brian Skelly
>>
>> <Europaxsa276>
>>
>> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:44:08 +1000
>> Subject: Europa-List: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on
>> Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>
>> --> Europa-List message posted by: <mailto:tonyrenshaw%
>> 40optusnet.com.au>tonyrenshaw@optusnet.com.au
>> Brian,
>> You probably are getting a myriad of complaints, and I know it
>> isn't your fault,
>> (important to clarify), but can you tell me if others are telling
>> you that your
>> isp is bouncing zillions of copies of the e-mail below into my in
>> box. Thank god
>> I have a mailwasher program, but I have a sneaking suspicion that,
>> as I delete
>> them, more come down, or simply the in box at my isp is simply
>> full of them. Any
>> help you can offer would be appreciated.
>> Reg
>> Tony Renshaw
>> Sydney Australia
>>
>>
>>> <mailto:EuropaXSA276%40aol.com>EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey Dean!
>>> How are ya? Was thinking about you a lot a few weeks ago. Took the
>>> whole
>>> family for 4 days of Disney. We rode your track a number of
>>> times. Hope
>>> you are
>>> doing great.
>>>
>>> Actually my problem right now is the aileron rubbing on the top
>>> of the
>>> aileron close out. Not the wing panel top. I was wondering if the
>>> sticks on top of
>>> the aileron would help spread the closeout itself so it would not
>>> rub.
>>> Any
>>> ideas? Photo attached.
>>> Or will the trimming of the top take care of this situation?
>>>
>>> So how's the bird?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Skelly
>>> Europa XS TriGear #A276
>>> North Texas USA
>>> You can see my build photos at:
>>> <http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS>http://www.europaowners.org/
>>> BrianS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------
>
>
> Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
> 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
> http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
>
>
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| Subject: | Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
No Matt has now allowed attachments as long as the file size is kept small
Regards
Ivor
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Matt
Am I correct in thinking we shouldn't be able to send attached files
- the latest runaway manged to contain a photo.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Ta
Paul
On 16 Jun 2006, at 11:42, ivor.phillips wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips"
> <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
>
> No Matt has now allowed attachments as long as the file size is
> kept small
> Regards
> Ivor
>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops"
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Matt
>
> Am I correct in thinking we shouldn't be able to send attached files
> - the latest runaway manged to contain a photo.
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Yes, the attachment was okay and now allowed as Ivor pointed out. I am working
on a method that will strip the attachments and replace them with a URL link
to the same on the Matronics website. This should greatly reduce the bandwidth
requirements, yet still enabled everyone including the Digest and List Browser
users to enjoy the attachments. Coming soon...
Matt Dralle
At 05:08 AM 6/16/2006 Friday, you wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
>Ta
>
>Paul
>
>On 16 Jun 2006, at 11:42, ivor.phillips wrote:
>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips"
>><ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
>>
>>No Matt has now allowed attachments as long as the file size is
>>kept small
>>Regards
>>Ivor
>>
>>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Zillions of e-mails about "Bonding on Tops"
>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart
>><europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>Am I correct in thinking we shouldn't be able to send attached files
>>- the latest runaway manged to contain a photo.
>>
>>Do not archive
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Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Re: Caernarfon Sat 17 June |
Hi David,
Please put me down for Caernarfon in G-LINN. Look forward to seeing you
there.
kind regards
Trevor
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| Subject: | Re: Caernarfon Sat 17 June |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Wilco, David
----- Original Message -----
From: <Trevpond@aol.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Caernarfon Sat 17 June
> Hi David,
>
> Please put me down for Caernarfon in G-LINN. Look forward to seeing you
> there.
>
> kind regards
>
>
> Trevor
>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
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| Subject: | Zillions of Messages - Not... |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Okay everybody, I've written a new input email List filter that should hopefully
prevent any further List meltdowns due that the "Cc:'d the List" issue. No
way to truly test it, though, so we'll just have to keep our fingers crossed and
hope for the best.
Just so you know that I was thinking about you and your inbox... :-)
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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