Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 07/10/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 05:03 AM - Re: Warpdrive Torque settings (Kingsley Hurst)
     2. 05:36 AM - Re: Source for rattle can paint (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
     3. 09:45 AM - Re: First Flight - N245E (GLENN CROWDER)
     4. 01:01 PM - Re: Warpdrive Torque settings (steve v.)
     5. 05:32 PM - Re: First Flight - N245E (Paul McAllister)
     6. 08:07 PM - EGT Sensors (Paul McAllister)
     7. 08:18 PM - Re: EGT Sensors (SPurpura@aol.com)
     8. 08:35 PM - Re: EGT Sensors (Cliff Shaw)
     9. 09:52 PM - Re: EGT Sensors ()
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:03:30 AM PST US
    From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
    Subject: Re: Warpdrive Torque settings
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au> > Hi , i can't seem to find the torque settings for the bolts on the warp > drive propellor & prop flange anywhere in the manual ,does anyone have any > figures?, thanks, #573 steve vestuti. Steve, The torque settings for the Warp Drive propeller are specified in the instructions accompanying the propeller. Since the instructions for assembling the propeller are quite detailed, I think you would be wise to get Warp Drive to send you a copy if you don't have them. There are two lots of torque settings dependent on which bolts are being used, 1/4" or 5/16" Also beware, the two hub halves have mating marks. To reiterate, I think you would be wise to get yourself a copy of the instructions if you can't find them. Regards Kingsley in Oz


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    Time: 05:36:58 AM PST US
    From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com
    Subject: Re: Source for rattle can paint
    Ron, Mar-Hyde self etching primer worked well for me, others that I tried did not bond well. I found it at a Sherwyn Williams auto body supply store. Dave A061


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    Time: 09:45:40 AM PST US
    From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: First Flight - N245E
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> Hey John - way to go buddy! Have you thermalled it yet? Mine thermals pretty well even with 2 up! Glenn >From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: First Flight - N245E >Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 10:54:38 EDT > >Greetings all, > >Just wanted to let everyone know that N245E broke the surly bonds of earth >at 6:05 PM EDT on July 7th at Matthews Field (TN89). The duration was 1:06 >and >the flight was uneventful. I spent the better part of the flight circling >the field trying to get the piston rings to seat, although I did take a >jaunt >up the valley 10 miles or so once I felt comfortable with the engine. I >would >have flown longer, but I found it quite uncomfortable with my seat cushion >removed and using my parachute for padding. > >It fly's straight and level hands off and the handling is crisp and >predictable. Minor adjustments in the rudder cables are needed, but other >than that >it is a ball to fly! The Jabiru 3300 performed flawlessly and the airplane >jumped off the ground in about 400' on the turf runway. I didn't really >record >any performance numbers, but I will in the next few flights and I'll post >them >here. I did run it up to 137 knots once, though, and there was plenty of >throttle left. Ground observers said it was very, very quiet. > >Many thanks to all here in the Europa family and special thanks to Andy >Silvester for all his assistance and the fine FWF package he's put >together. I >also want to thank Neville for his guidance along the way and Andy Draper >and >the Europa factory for their assistance as well. Lastly, I want to thank my >wife Susan for her consistent encouragement and support, not to mention >her >patience, over the 3.5 year build. She's chomping at the bit for me to get >my 40 >hours flown off so she can fly it. > >The Europa Permagrin has begun..... > >Regards, > >John Lawton >Dunlap, TN >N245E - FLYING!


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    Time: 01:01:39 PM PST US
    From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
    Subject: RE: Warpdrive Torque settings
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net> Thanks Kinsley for getting back, i couldn't find the mating marks described in the instuctions !, i'll use the torqes on that sheet if thats what every one else is doing, thanks again, steve vestuti #573 ---------------- Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/


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    Time: 05:32:02 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: First Flight - N245E
    John, Congratulations!! Completing your own amateur built aircraft is a significant personal achievement, many people dream about it but few actually do it.. I have 460 hours on mine now and I enjoy flying it as much as the first day I flew it. Regards, Paul do not archive


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    Time: 08:07:36 PM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: EGT Sensors
    Hi all, I have an unusual problem. I have two EGT sensors installed, one on the front port exhaust and the other on the rear starboard. The probes and the mounts were supplied by Grand Rapids. The probe mounts are simple screw in devices with a compression gland to secure the probe. They are made of brass. The problem I am having is that every 50 hours or so the rear gland unscrews itself. When I install it, its is really tight to screw in, but it still comes out. I have replaced it 3 times but it hasn't made any difference, the darn thing still eventually unscrews. It never happens to the front pipe, which is cooler than the rear one. Anyone have any ideas on what to do ?. My first thought is to try and get one made out of stainless steel so the co-efficient of expansion is the same. Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 08:18:58 PM PST US
    From: SPurpura@aol.com
    Subject: Re: EGT Sensors
    Not unusual, mine get loose @ about 25 hrs


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    Time: 08:35:56 PM PST US
    From: "Cliff Shaw" <flyinggpa@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: EGT Sensors
    Paul Interesting. It may be hat the engine vibration is doing the unscrewing when the nut is hot. I think I would try to drill it for a safety wire. That is what safety wire is suppose to fix. See if you can get a angled hole through one side. Just my thoughts. My EGT probes are the clamp on type (912S) and I had to weld a boss on the pipe to prevent it from cracking. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul McAllister To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 8:05 PM Subject: Europa-List: EGT Sensors Hi all, I have an unusual problem. I have two EGT sensors installed, one on the front port exhaust and the other on the rear starboard. The probes and the mounts were supplied by Grand Rapids. The probe mounts are simple screw in devices with a compression gland to secure the probe. They are made of brass. The problem I am having is that every 50 hours or so the rear gland unscrews itself. When I install it, its is really tight to screw in, but it still comes out. I have replaced it 3 times but it hasn't made any difference, the darn thing still eventually unscrews. It never happens to the front pipe, which is cooler than the rear one. Anyone have any ideas on what to do ?. My first thought is to try and get one made out of stainless steel so the co-efficient of expansion is the same. Thanks, Paul


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    Time: 09:52:51 PM PST US
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Subject: Re: EGT Sensors
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Hello Paul > Anyone have any ideas on what to do ?. My first thought is to try and get > one made out of stainless steel so the co-efficient of expansion is the > same. I can't quite exact visualize what you have, perhaps some general ideas will help? Call Grand Rapids and ask them how to secure If Grand Rapids has no ideas, ask them for a name of someone who does If the probe bottoms, make sure it contacts uniform, check from no unscrew to does unscrew Can you put on front starboard and rear port? Install a star washer, check McMaster for high temp? Install a lock washer Buy (McMaster) if a hex, they have folded up sheet metal hex that allows you to safety wire Can you drill and safety wire? You may want to use a spring instead of, or along with safety wire Put a clamp on probe and safety wire/spring that Make a bendable tab, like motorcycles use to secure hub hardware I never tried it, but perhaps some of the muffler repair paste would turn to glass and hold into position? Could you drill and tap the female and install a set screw that could be safety wired? If you look close at how a turnbuckle works with the spring clips instead of safety wiring, you may be able to go in with a precision file, and file half on the female, and 1/2 on the male and insert a fashioned clip. McMaster sells wonderful shim washers. they are made up of a gazillion layers, you select how much you need by splitting with a razor blade. You could also purchase shims, or shim washers, or shim-stock and make your own. What i am getting at is if you do the file trick, if you missed by a little, shim till perfect Look in McMaster for high temp thread loctite I have machined a groove on a hex and installed a snap ring, then safety wired or used a spring on the snap ring If none of above are suitable, explain exact how probe works, or better yet take a picture and i will think a bit harder. Ron Parigoris You could always put a drop of iodine on the threads, then you will not have to worry about anyone "EVER" removing. Since you have the bottle out, put 1 drop on 1 lug nut of each wheel of the neighbors car you hate, about 2 weeks before you put 8 nails under tires (4 propped forward, 4 propped rear)




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