---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/11/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:32 AM - Re: EGT Sensors (ivor.phillips) 2. 04:57 AM - Re: EGT Sensors (Jim Butcher) 3. 05:20 AM - FFF '06 (Gert Dalgaard) 4. 09:04 AM - Re: FFF '06 (Pete Lawless) 5. 09:42 AM - warp drive torque (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk) 6. 01:02 PM - Re EGT probes loosening (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu) 7. 01:55 PM - Rapco Vacuum System (Steven Pitt) 8. 04:12 PM - Re: Rapco Vacuum System (Richard Iddon) 9. 07:54 PM - PB 1 Propeller balancer (Paul McAllister) 10. 07:58 PM - Re: Re EGT probes loosening (SPurpura@aol.com) 11. 09:35 PM - Anyone interested in a removable landing/taxi light? () 12. 10:22 PM - Re: PB 1 Propeller balancer (William Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:40 AM PST US From: "ivor.phillips" Subject: RE: Europa-List: EGT Sensors I am using Westach 712-4D6K EGT sensors and had no trouble in drilling the captive nut to take locking wire, But no operational experiences yet! Regards Ivor _____ [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: 11 July 2006 04:05 Hi all, I have an unusual problem. I have two EGT sensors installed, one on the front port exhaust and the other on the rear starboard. The probes and the mounts were supplied by Grand Rapids. The probe mounts are simple screw in devices with a compression gland to secure the probe. They are made of brass. The problem I am having is that every 50 hours or so the rear gland unscrews itself. When I install it, its is really tight to screw in, but it still comes out. I have replaced it 3 times but it hasn't made any difference, the darn thing still eventually unscrews. It never happens to the front pipe, which is cooler than the rear one. Anyone have any ideas on what to do ?. My first thought is to try and get one made out of stainless steel so the co-efficient of expansion is the same. Thanks, Paul ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:57:51 AM PST US From: "Jim Butcher" Subject: Europa-List: Re: EGT Sensors --> Europa-List message posted by: "Jim Butcher" Paul, We are using EI ungrounded sensors. They come with a stainless steel compression fitting. Unfortunately the fitting is not available in metric threads as required to fit the boss on the exhaust supplied by Rotax. We just had our machine shop rethread the supplied fittings to the metric thread. We've had no problem with them loosening in 60 hrs. You should be able to find stainless steel fittings at McMaster or similar suppliers. Jim & Heather N241BW 40 hrs finally complete!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:55 AM PST US From: Gert Dalgaard Subject: Europa-List: FFF '06 --> Europa-List message posted by: Gert Dalgaard Hi I am planning to go to Kemble for the FFF '06, but it seems I can't get the AIC's down from NATS's site as a "non-GB-citizen"...? Anybody else outside GB got the registration to work? Or - "What do I do?" Regards Gert OY-GDS/mono/914 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:35 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: FFF '06 --> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Lawless" I have sent Gert a copy off list. If anyone else needs the same let me know. Regards Pete ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:42:41 AM PST US From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Subject: Europa-List: warp drive torque --> Europa-List message posted by: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Hi all, Someone on the list recently was asking about the torque values on the warp drive prop. As I have just received my prop this morning here is what they quote. ** note: After adjusting the blade pitch, tighten the clamping bolts in increments of 20 inch pounds up to the full recommended torque. Do not fully tighten the bolts in one step! tightening one bolt to the full torque could change the pitch of the blade. Torque the clamping bolts evenly in a criss-cross path. Torque Values. Torque the 1/4" clamping bolts to 120 inch pounds or 10 foot pounds. Torque the 5/16" or 8mm bolts to 175 inch pounds or 15 foot pounds. Hope this helps Danny G-c.e.r.i ( engine arriving September I hope ) ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:58 PM PST US From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu Subject: Europa-List: Re EGT probes loosening Hi Paul, May be that it is time to upgrade to bayonet type probes. I have had no issues with my probes in 200 hr. The probes themselves are not expensive, but you would need to weld bungs to the sample holes on the proximal down pipes. See you at Osh Paul! Ira Ira J. Rampil, M.S., M.D. Professor of Anesthesiology and Neurological Surgery Director of Clinical Research University at Stony Brook Stony Brook, New York 11794-8480 (631) 444-2975 voice (631) 444-2907 fax This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipients(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by e-mail and destroy all copies of the original. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:02 PM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Europa-List: Rapco Vacuum System A question for those with Vacuum Systems - I have been testing my engine prior to first flight and I have a low vacuum reading, around 3.5 to 4 and the Rapco site says that all of their regulators are factory set to 5. Has anyone had to adjust their regulators and if so by how much? Thanks Steve Pitt G-SMDH 912S Trigear ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:23 PM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rapco Vacuum System Steve. My vacuum has never been above 4 but all instruments seem to work OK. I have stopped worrying about it. Congrats on getting your permit and hope the flight testing goes well. Richard. -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt Sent: 11 July 2006 21:49 A question for those with Vacuum Systems - I have been testing my engine prior to first flight and I have a low vacuum reading, around 3.5 to 4 and the Rapco site says that all of their regulators are factory set to 5. Has anyone had to adjust their regulators and if so by how much? Thanks Steve Pitt G-SMDH 912S Trigear ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:55 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Europa-List: PB 1 Propeller balancer Hi All, Has anyone had any experience with the PB1Propeller balancer from Smart Avionics, good or bad ? Thanks, Paul ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:34 PM PST US From: SPurpura@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re EGT probes loosening I think that safety wiring or replacing the brass compression nut with a stainless steel one might not be a bad idea. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:04 PM PST US From: Subject: Europa-List: Anyone interested in a removable landing/taxi light? --> Europa-List message posted by: Anyone interested in a removable landing/taxi light, should weigh not too much, approx thickness of your finger, and not draw 2 amp? We finally got to fooling with our latest and greatest LED order. Pretty impressed with the 10mm 12 degree angle 80,000+mcd LEDs for landing lights and the 30,000mcd 5mm 20 degree angle for taxi lights. I figure net illumination will be close to a 50 watt Cessna landing light with little heat and amp draw in line with surplus anemic Rotax generator wants to offer. Idea is a joint venture. Someone with flying Europa with a XS cowl do some test flying, tape foam a little at a time until happy with shape and size, not too much drag and cooling etc is OK. (Double sticky and clear packaging tape, 3M 375) Idea is to make a form fit to bottom of intake on cowl, easy on and off with a few fasteners. Thickness needs only to be bout as thick as your finger. Send me over the foam, and I will fool and figure how and what to fit. I can populate with what I have and put in a battery in the foam for easy acid test. If test goes well, thinking 240 10mm 12 degree aimed for landing, and between the 10mm, 60 5 mm 20 degree aimed for taxi. Cost is under $.50 each. Thus ~ $150. Can easily incorporate wig wag from 60 5mm to 240 10mm. 12 degree angle spread over 300 feet is not much more than glider wing span. 20 degree angle gives up a little beyond taxi speed. OK lets add some realistic fudge: 2.5 amp draw Weight a few pounds $250 Very little heat given off Even if over-driven "LONG" service life Vibration resistant 8 mounting screws (probably 6?) 2 of which will power unit Anyone interested? A year ago if you purchased the latest and greatest from Hosfelt Electronics, 300 LEDs would be close to $2,000.00 and they were not as powerful! Ron Parigoris http://www.besthongkong.com/index.php 10mm 12 degree http://www.besthongkong.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=34 5mm 20 degree 30,000mcd http://www.besthongkong.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=&products_id=12 These guys accept paypal and were very easy to deal with. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:33 PM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Re: Europa-List: PB 1 Propeller balancer It gives excellent results and is easy to use. Mark has developed it on his and many other Europas over the past four years. Regards, William ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul McAllister To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:51 AM Subject: Europa-List: PB 1 Propeller balancer Hi All, Has anyone had any experience with the PB1Propeller balancer from Smart Avionics, good or bad ? Thanks, Paul