---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/16/06: 23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:12 AM - Re: wiring PTT switches (europa flugzeug fabrik) 2. 02:32 AM - Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment (G-IANI) 3. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment () 4. 08:02 AM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Cliff Shaw) 5. 08:29 AM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Gilles Thesee) 6. 08:54 AM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (BEBERRY@aol.com) 7. 08:58 AM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Paul McAllister) 8. 10:41 AM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Richard Holder) 9. 01:17 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Gilles Thesee) 10. 01:24 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Gilles Thesee) 11. 01:43 PM - knocking on heaven's door (Thomas Scherer) 12. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment (Rowland Carson) 13. 02:57 PM - Re: Monowheel Trailer by David Watts, The Europa Flyer No39, (David Watts) 14. 03:04 PM - Re: knocking on heaven's door (gdh) 15. 03:11 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X () 16. 03:28 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Gilles Thesee) 17. 04:32 PM - Re: 914 plugs (SPurpura@aol.com) 18. 04:36 PM - Re: knocking on heaven's door (Karl Heindl) 19. 04:44 PM - Oshkosh (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 20. 05:19 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (rlborger) 21. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: 914 plugs (Gilles Thesee) 22. 09:17 PM - Re: Monowheel Trailer by David Watts, The Europa Flyer No39, (JR(Bob) Gowing) 23. 09:24 PM - Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:37 AM PST US From: "europa flugzeug fabrik" Subject: Europa-List: Re: wiring PTT switches --> Europa-List message posted by: "europa flugzeug fabrik" europa(at)pstewart.f2s.co wrote: > Fred and John > > Thanks for the help.My confusion has come I now realise because I > have an old installation manual which does ask for a twisted pair of > wires at 2 turns per inch to the PTT switches. I will follow your > advice and look forward to the sound of silence. > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY Paul, I hope I didn't steer you wrong, and you may have an iteration of the XCOM which requires shielding/twisted on PTT. It's possible you have a model of the box which is susceptible to external "noise." In older days, we switched between receive and xmit with a mechanical relay where this low impedance of flipping device didn't require any special wiring to prevent external noise from triggering xmit when we didn't intend to xmit. Modern comm boxes switch functions in semiconductor ways which are trivial now to prevent such problems, though they can be "hair-trigger" if not designed right, but the biggest nut to crack was isolating input/output (many volts vs. microvolts) from the single antenna which we use for receive/transmit (a simple, isolating, wonderous "PIN diode" for the technically curious). Anyway, you mentioned your harness has shielded wire for PTT, so I would use that for as far she physically goes, not necessarily a ground in the shield. When we deisre to xmit, all we're really doing is pulling a "plus voltage" to ground, though a typically low resistance, hence noise immune. Nuthin' to worry about 'til you might run into an anomalous problem in servce. This function is trivial, and all you need is a ground return for your panel jack and/or PTT switch Somewhat related here, but on my electronics bench right now is an eBay purchase of a Narco COM 120/20 for low price -- nominal 20W xmit on 14V. A rare device on the used market if alleged working and she does; and I purchased it for my other plane as a slide-in replacement for a working box. Why exactly I don't know, but that's eBay. Not that appropriate for a typical Europa, but holy mother of pearl!! She draws spec .5 Amps in receive, but key xmit and stuff sure happens. Measured 10A current draw, and thence better than 20-watt RF carrier output. The point is, you simply ground the PTT line from the back of the box, and xmit indeed happens if all normal. Fred F. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=47556#47556 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:15 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" Does anyone know who has the Club VSWR meter. Rowland is away at present and I would like to find it ASAP as a member has a problem that it might solve. Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:31 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment --> Europa-List message posted by: Ian, Because we have not completed the handover my copy of the tool loan data base is dated June 2006. It shows the meter being sent to Simon Miles in March 2005 and no record of it being returned. His e mail address is simon.miles@skynet.be Brian -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI Sent: 16 July 2006 10:26 --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" Does anyone know who has the Club VSWR meter. Rowland is away at present and I would like to find it ASAP as a member has a problem that it might solve. Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. -- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:02 AM PST US From: "Cliff Shaw" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X Richard I had a concern regarding my regulator. I bought a new unit from Lockwood and temporally installed it yesterday. I was worried that the charge voltage was too low. It read 13.5 volts when the load was about 4 amps. The new regulator was exactly the same. Your concern of voltage fluctuation was not observed on either of my regulators. They did very .2 volts with the landing lights turn on, but I expected that. Cliff Shaw 1041 Euclid ave. Edmonds, WA 98020 425 776 5555 http://www.europaowners.org/WileE ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Holder To: Europa List Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:59 AM Subject: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Hi guys Has anyone : Bought/acquired a rectifier-regulator (RR) in the last year AND Fitted it AND has an analogue ammeter AND used the plane This could be a replacement RR or the original supplied with the engine. Does your ammeter oscillate above 4600 rpm ? If so how much ? (at 4600 and at 5700) Whether it does oscillate or not I would appreciate knowing the date it was made. (It is stamped on the RR case in the form 0105 for January 2005. TIA Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ========================= ========== ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:29:49 AM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee Cliff Shaw a crit : > Richard > > I had a concern regarding my regulator. I bought a new unit from > Lockwood and temporally installed it yesterday. > > I was worried that the charge voltage was too low. It read 13.5 > volts when the load was about 4 amps. The new regulator was exactly > the same. > > Your concern of voltage fluctuation was not observed on either of my > regulators. They did very .2 volts with the landing lights turn on, > but I expected that. > Gentlemen, Maybe the small study we conducted on the Rotax regulator could be of interest : http://contrails.free.fr/elec_ducati_en.php We found that the regulated voltage was around 13.5-13.8 V, quite in accordance with the recent postings. Also the B+ and R pins are internally connected. Remember that the case must be suitably grounded, with a connection capable of at least 20 amps. The key to achieving acceptable service life with the Rotax unit, is cooling and low current draw. In my opinion, drawing more than a dozen amps continuous is unwise and may lead to premature failure. BTW, the G letters stand for "Giallo" (yellow), R for "Rosso". Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:21 AM PST US From: BEBERRY@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X Gilles, I am having problems connecting up my regulator as I have only 5 possible wires - not the 6 as shown on the wiring diagram. However, if R+ and B are internally connected and therefore common, why does the diagram show separate connections? Help! Patrick ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:40 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" Gilles, Did your friend who did the testing ever come up with a more robust design ? Paul -----Original Message----- [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:28 AM Gentlemen, Maybe the small study we conducted on the Rotax regulator could be of interest : http://contrails.free.fr/elec_ducati_en.php We found that the regulated voltage was around 13.5-13.8 V, quite in accordance with the recent postings. Also the B+ and R pins are internally connected. Remember that the case must be suitably grounded, with a connection capable of at least 20 amps. The key to achieving acceptable service life with the Rotax unit, is cooling and low current draw. In my opinion, drawing more than a dozen amps continuous is unwise and may lead to premature failure. BTW, the G letters stand for "Giallo" (yellow), R for "Rosso". Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:57 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Cliff Shaw wrote: > I had a concern regarding my regulator. I bought a new > unit from Lockwood and temporally installed it > yesterday. > I was worried that the charge voltage was too low. It > read 13.5 volts when the load was about 4 amps. The new > regulator was exactly the same. > > Your concern of voltage fluctuation was not observed on > either of my regulators. They did very .2 volts with > the landing lights turn on, but I expected that. Cliff It would appear to me that the latest regulators (RRs) do not put out a decent voltage until they are run at higher engine rpm. However my concern is not a visible voltage fluctuation. The battery is a fine "damper" mechanism to remove any visible fluctuations of voltage. What I am getting is a visible current fluctuation, which I believe is _caused_ by a less visible voltage fluctuation. My ammeter (which is analog) shows this oscillation. It would not show up on any digital readouts. In addition I note that the cruising voltage seems to be higher than it was before (14.1 v rather than 13.8 v). Not significantly. And of course the VDO guages do not give exact readings, but there is an apparent difference between the old and new voltage. So far I have tried a total of 4 new RRs (two from Lockwood and two from the UK suppliers). They ALL fluctuate in this way on my aircraft (and with one of them) on another Europa. I have tried three other RRs, made much earlier and they do not fluctuate on my aircraft or on the aircraft they came from. Although it seems incredible, the logical deduction is that there is a faulty batch or that the design has been changed. The UK suppliers are on the case. They have been informed of the tests and the results and they are pressing Rotax in Austria for a further test and a response. I await their reply. (It won't be swift !) The RRs that work OK are date stamped (approx) Jan 01 and Jan 02. The third was so old it had black goo in the back rather than green goo. Of the four which fluctuate the two from Lockwood were dated Oct 05, and the two from the UK supplier were dated Jan 06. Paul McAllister said > Did your friend who did the testing ever come up with a > more robust design ? I am sure that this may be the way to go. I did find details of another design from someone in Finland. Or maybe it was Denmark or even Norway. The .pdf had lots of letter oscar with a line through it ! Steen Gruby. I chased through Google and wrote him an email but didn't hear anything back. Does anyone else know the name ? Richard G-OWWW High Cross ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:14 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" > > Gilles, > > Did your friend who did the testing ever come up with a more robust design ? > Paul, At the time of the study, I had been given a Schicke GR4 regulator, by someone who said "you'll see, it works fine". We made a comparative study of the Rotax and the Schicke, and we came to the conclusion that the Schicke was perfectly up to the task. Besides, its regulated voltage was in the 13.8-14.2 V range, and the current "cleaner" that that of the Rotax. So I decided to install the Schicke, and the idea of designing a new unit was "put on the back burner". Jerome proposed the project to a group of students, but in spite of considerable work, they did not produce a workable regulator. Regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:55 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee BEBERRY@aol.com a crit : > Gilles, I am having problems connecting up my regulator as I have only > 5 possible wires - not the 6 as shown on the wiring diagram. > However, if R+ and B are internally connected and therefore common, > why does the diagram show separate connections? > > Help! > > Patrick Patrick, Not sure if your "missing wires" are the regulator terminals (you should have the regular Ducati/Rotax connector), or the wires in your plane. I was not particularly impressed by the Rotax proposed schematic. It would be OK for a 912 or 912S, but in my opinion, it would lack redundancy for the electrically dependant 914. I designed a variation on the Z16 figure in the Aeroelectric Connection Appendix Z. I don't really know what Europa recommends, but many kit manufacturers suggest a variant of the Rotax schematics. It would be interesting to have a look at the Europa circuit. As for the questions, he who provides the drawing should be able to answer any questions, and justify any particularity of his design. But do not ask too much : most of the kit manufacturers I know of are lousy electricians ;-) Regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:43:38 PM PST US From: "Thomas Scherer" Subject: Europa-List: knocking on heaven's door --> Europa-List message posted by: "Thomas Scherer" Hi everybody, this morning I took N81EU a Europa classic with Rotax 912ul, short wings up to 17,700 ft above Los Angeles, CA. Climb rate was still 110 ft in clear air. IAS was 74 knots ground temp at departure point (KCCB) was 96 deg F. (No OAT installed). Oil temps were high (250 deg F) up to 7000 ft and came down in the higher, cooler air. Lately I have installed a cold air supply from a NACA scoop on the lower starboard cowling feeding a homebuilt airbox mounted to the bing carburators. The cooler installation now features dual oil coolers in series. This might be a new high for a 912ul in a Europa without glider wings. I shall now start constructing some sort of air-compression device and try for higher. I was 300 ft below Airspace A with views ranging from Palm Springs to the SoCal Pacific ocean coast. The climb took 2 hrs and she used 36 litres of fuel. RPM at max alt was 5400 RPM. (prop is an Airmaster with 73 inch diameter). Happy landings ! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:12:34 PM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List :Club Equipment --> Europa-List message posted by: Rowland Carson At 2006-07-16 10:26 +0100 G-IANI wrote: >Rowland is away I'm back! I'm definately back! (as whatsisname said in "Budgie" many years ago) - and I've sorted it out, I think - Pete Churms has it. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info! | Europa 435 G-ROWI (750 hours building) PFA #16532 | e-mail website www.europaclub.org.uk ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:57:21 PM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer by David Watts, The Europa Flyer No39, --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" Bob, sorry for the delay replying, I have been working over the weekend. Your description is perfect. I hook the bungee on the axle of the dooly on one side and then loop it extremely tightly over the base of the windscreen / rear of the cowling, then back down to the axle of the dooly on the opposite side. Dave Watts. G-BXDY > > David Watts article shows an attractive method of moving his fuselage > about > and into his trailer by strapping his dolly on with bungee cords and > moving > the fuselage (no doubt with a wing still attached) with wheel extended > onto > a pair of ramps leading into his trailer. When the dolly wheels land on > the > ramp he can retract the wheel and just use the dolly by backing off the > ramp > or load the fuselage into the trailer. > > Can anyone tell me David's email address or where does he hook the bungee > cords on to the fuselage please? > > Sincerely > JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz -- Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:14 PM PST US From: "gdh" Subject: Re: Europa-List: knocking on heaven's door --> Europa-List message posted by: "gdh" Thomas, Congratulations on your altitude accomplishment, very impressive. Regards, Dale P.S. Don't forget, I still have your vibration monitor. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 1:41 PM > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Thomas Scherer" > > Hi everybody, > > this morning I took N81EU a Europa classic with Rotax 912ul, short wings > up to 17,700 ft above Los Angeles, CA. Climb rate was still 110 ft in > clear air. IAS was 74 knots ground temp at departure point (KCCB) was 96 > deg F. (No OAT installed). > > Oil temps were high (250 deg F) up to 7000 ft and came down in the higher, > cooler air. > > Lately I have installed a cold air supply from a NACA scoop on the lower > starboard cowling feeding a homebuilt airbox mounted to the bing > carburators. The cooler installation now features dual oil coolers in > series. > > This might be a new high for a 912ul in a Europa without glider wings. > > I shall now start constructing some sort of air-compression device and try > for higher. I was 300 ft below Airspace A with views ranging from Palm > Springs to the SoCal Pacific ocean coast. > > The climb took 2 hrs and she used 36 litres of fuel. RPM at max alt was > 5400 RPM. (prop is an Airmaster with 73 inch diameter). > > Happy landings ! > > > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > http://wiki.matronics.com > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:09 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: According to Lockwood, cooling is not a bad idea. If you cool RR and ask more than 12 amps for a long time, you will cook the windings on the generator. OK here's a question, how could the Rotax charging circuit be modified limit max. output to 12 amps? Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:28:20 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee Hi Ron and all, > ask > more than 12 amps for a long time, you will cook the windings on the > generator. > We treated the Rotax PM alternator VERY bad, and I can assure you the windings are bullet proof up to the design 20 amps, for very long periods of use. It is still well and alive (seen the thermal images ?) in spite of the abuse we imposed on it. The weak link in the system is the Rotax regulator. The more you ask from it, the more it heats up, until it finally fries long before reaching the advertised continuous current. > OK here's a question, how could the Rotax charging circuit be modified > limit max. output to 12 amps? > No need : you just load it under 12 amp continuous. In our setup, the max continuous load (day VFR) is under 10 amp, and our Schicke (rated at about 16 amps) never exceeds 40C, according to my little temperature sticker. Regards, Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:05 PM PST US From: SPurpura@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Re: 914 plugs What spark plug gap are the rest of you 914 drivers using on the Denso plugs. ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:36:56 PM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: RE: Europa-List: knocking on heaven's door --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" Thomas, Can you please confirm that your prop is 73" and not 63". The ground clearance would be very limited. Thanks, Karl >From: "Thomas Scherer" >To: >Subject: Europa-List: knocking on heaven's door >Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:41:50 -0700 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Thomas Scherer" > >Hi everybody, > >this morning I took N81EU a Europa classic with Rotax 912ul, short wings up >to 17,700 ft above Los Angeles, CA. Climb rate was still 110 ft in clear >air. IAS was 74 knots ground temp at departure point (KCCB) was 96 deg F. >(No OAT installed). > >Oil temps were high (250 deg F) up to 7000 ft and came down in the higher, >cooler air. > >Lately I have installed a cold air supply from a NACA scoop on the lower >starboard cowling feeding a homebuilt airbox mounted to the bing >carburators. The cooler installation now features dual oil coolers in >series. > >This might be a new high for a 912ul in a Europa without glider wings. > >I shall now start constructing some sort of air-compression device and try >for higher. I was 300 ft below Airspace A with views ranging from Palm >Springs to the SoCal Pacific ocean coast. > >The climb took 2 hrs and she used 36 litres of fuel. RPM at max alt was >5400 RPM. (prop is an Airmaster with 73 inch diameter). > >Happy landings ! > > > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >http://wiki.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:44:46 PM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: Oshkosh Have there been any Europa seminars scheduled? Lynne and I will be there Thu through Sat. Jim Puglise -------------- Original message -------------- > --> Europa-List message posted by: rehn@rockisland.com > > >HI ALL > Jerry & Margy 645XS flew last year driving this year. Will be there SUN > thru Wed. > Jerry > > > How about if we suggest meeting each day at 11:30 am at the Homebuilders > > Headquarters Building, Box # 71, Grid # A4 on last year's convention map. > > > > 1) Dan Bish - Builder - 520.360.9747 - Tues thru Thurs > > 2) Jeff Roberts - Flying N128LJ Cell Phone 615-406-8651 Monday -T- > > Wednesday > > 3) Dave Miller C-FBZI, Chris Staines C-GFSY , cell 519-494-2741 Saturday > > and Sunday, driving in, staying at Marion College > > 4) Jan & Fran Volcic also indicate they will be driving in for same > > dates > > 5) Paul McAllister, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Flying if the > > weather is > > good driving if not. > > 6) Richard Schultz - N262AE 713.703.2156 Sunday to Saturday, flight line > > or > > the homebuilt camping area > > 7) Jim & Heather Butcher, N241BW flying or driving 269-599-0122 Tues - > > Sat > > 8) Cliff and Betty Shaw, N229WC Flying from Seattle, all week > > 425-478-3233 > > > > > > > > Cliff Shaw > > 1041 Euclid ave. > > Edmonds, WA 98020 > > 425 776 5555 > > http://www.europaowners.org/WileE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Have there been any Europa seminars scheduled?  Lynne and I will be there Thu through Sat.
 
Jim Puglise
 
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> > 4) Jan & Fran Volcic also indicate they will be driving in fo r same e many ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:19:41 PM PST US From: rlborger Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: rlborger Giles & Europaphiles: Thanks for your information regarding the Schicke Regulator. I have visited the Schicke web site. They appear to be up to version GR-6 on their regulator. The specifications and wiring diagram are essentially the same as the GR-4. It looks like it would be a suitable replacement for the Ducati unit. The big question is: How do I get one here in the US? Herr Schicke has a very serious disclaimer at the bottom of his page stating: "Ein Export der Gerte in die Vereinigten Staaten von Amerika ist ohne schriftliche Einwilligung vonSchicke electronic nicht zulssig" This translates loosely as: "Export of the devices into the United States of America without written consent of Schicke Electronic is illegal!" Does anyone out there in Europa Land or Electronics Land know of a source for the Shcicke GR-6 in North America? Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 29 Main Gear, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. Preparing ROTAX 914 for installation. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:36 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: 914 plugs --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee SPurpura@aol.com a crit : > What spark plug gap are the rest of you 914 drivers using on the Denso > plugs. I'm following the Rotax manual : 0,60-0,70 mm Some info at http://contrails.free.fr/engine_denso.php FWIW, Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:17:17 PM PST US From: "JR(Bob) Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel Trailer by David Watts, The Europa Flyer No39, --> Europa-List message posted by: "JR(Bob) Gowing" David So simple! Thank you David. JR (Bob) Gowing Kit 327 in Oz do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 7:54 AM No39, > --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Watts" > > Bob, > > sorry for the delay replying, I have been working over the weekend. > > Your description is perfect. > I hook the bungee on the axle of the dooly on one side and then loop it > extremely tightly over the base of the windscreen / rear of the cowling, > then back down to the axle of the dooly on the opposite side. > > Dave Watts. G-BXDY > > > > > David Watts article shows an attractive method of moving his fuselage > > about > > and into his trailer by strapping his dolly on with bungee cords and > > moving > > the fuselage (no doubt with a wing still attached) with wheel extended > > onto > > a pair of ramps leading into his trailer. When the dolly wheels land on > > the > > ramp he can retract the wheel and just use the dolly by backing off the > > ramp > > or load the fuselage into the trailer. > > > > Can anyone tell me David's email address or where does he hook the bungee > > cords on to the fuselage please? > > > > Sincerely > > JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz > > > -- > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:11 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Rectifier-Regulator 91X --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" Gentlemen, I have been told the voltage regulator seen at http://www.powermate.com.au/ is good. I haven't got one myself (YET) but if I have any trouble with the Rotax supplied unit I will be very tempted to try one of these. I questioned the designer about the output being only 8 amps but he assured me it will run everything I have in my aircraft. He has a Slepcev Storch himself and he listed all the items he has in it which exceeded my demands. Don't know him personally but found he responds to queries ok. Cheers Kingsley