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1. 02:35 AM - Flightplanning FFF '06 (Gert Dalgaard)
2. 03:00 AM - Re: Flightplanning FFF '06 (Niels Kock)
3. 03:21 AM - Re: Icom Transceiver (David Joyce)
4. 03:24 AM - Re: Flightplanning FFF '06 (Gert Dalgaard)
5. 05:51 AM - Re: Flightplanning FFF '06 (Pete Lawless)
6. 06:59 AM - Re: 912 oil pressure help (William Daniell)
7. 08:45 AM - Stall-Spin (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
8. 10:29 AM - Re: Stall-Spin (Richard Iddon)
9. 01:29 PM - Re: Stall-Spin (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
10. 02:29 PM - XS Monowheel door sill angle on ground ()
11. 05:29 PM - Stalls and incipient spin (Gilles Thesee)
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| Subject: | Flightplanning FFF '06 |
Planning flight from DK to Kemble it seems I can't find the
coordinates for the "VFR Report Points" for flying the last few miles
according to the instructions in the AIC..... (Shrivenham,
Blackhill, Malmesbury Watertower etc. ...)
I took down 14 pages from the Net and the last one was "Int blank",
so I guess I have it all.
Am I blind or what?
Can't hardly remember how to fly without.... :-)))
Regards Gert
Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
Stabelvej 9, Haarby
DK 8660 Skanderborg
Denmark
Europa builder No. 151
Europa Classic / Rotax 914
AC reg.: OY-GDS
Phone.: +45 8695 0595
E mail: lgds@post6.tele.dk
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/dalgaard/oygds.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Flightplanning FFF '06 |
Jeg tror, jeg har dem fra sidst jeg var der, Gert.
Kigger efter i dag og vender tilbage.
V.h.
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: Gert Dalgaard
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Flightplanning FFF '06
Planning flight from DK to Kemble it seems I can't find the
coordinates for the "VFR Report Points" for flying the last few miles
according to the instructions in the AIC..... (Shrivenham, Blackhill,
Malmesbury Watertower etc. ...)
I took down 14 pages from the Net and the last one was "Int blank", so
I guess I have it all.
Am I blind or what?
Can't hardly remember how to fly without.... :-)))
Regards Gert
Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
Stabelvej 9, Haarby
DK 8660 Skanderborg
Denmark
Europa builder No. 151
Europa Classic / Rotax 914
AC reg.: OY-GDS
Phone.: +45 8695 0595
E mail: lgds@post6.tele.dk
http://home19.inet.tele.dk/dalgaard/oygds.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Icom Transceiver |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Peter, I have the original instructions + wiring diagram for my vintage 2000
Icom IC A200 which I can scan to you directly if are not already sorted.
Regards, David Joyce
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From: "Peter Rees" <peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Icom Transceiver
Anyone know where I can find the installation (and wiring) diagram for the
Icom IC-A200 transceiver? The operating instructions are on their website
but not the wiring detail.
Thanks
Peter
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| Subject: | Re: Flightplanning FFF '06 |
Alle tiders...
Hilsen Gert
Den 13/08/2006 kl. 11.58 skrev Niels Kock:
> Jeg tror, jeg har dem fra sidst jeg var der, Gert.
> Kigger efter i dag og vender tilbage.
> V.h.
> Niels
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gert Dalgaard
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:32 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Flightplanning FFF '06
>
> Planning flight from DK to Kemble it seems I can't find the
> coordinates for the "VFR Report Points" for flying the last few
> miles according to the instructions in the AIC..... (Shrivenham,
> Blackhill, Malmesbury Watertower etc. ...)
> I took down 14 pages from the Net and the last one was "Int blank",
> so I guess I have it all.
> Am I blind or what?
> Can't hardly remember how to fly without.... :-)))
> Regards Gert
>
>
> Gert Dalgaard Soerensen
> Stabelvej 9, Haarby
> DK 8660 Skanderborg
> Denmark
>
> Europa builder No. 151
> Europa Classic / Rotax 914
> AC reg.: OY-GDS
>
> Phone.: +45 8695 0595
> E mail: lgds@post6.tele.dk
> http://home19.inet.tele.dk/dalgaard/oygds.jpg
>
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| Subject: | Flightplanning FFF '06 |
Hi All
I have sent Gert a scanned quarter mil map of the area and included the
co-ordinates for the VRPs he wanted. The map is just over a megabyte so I
sent it off forum.
If any one else would like the same information let me know.
Regards
Pete
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| Subject: | 912 oil pressure help |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Thanks good thought - however I always turn prop by hand and then check the
oil which is right at the top of the old style dipstick that i have.
My thoughts are that it is either something to do with the change in
vicosity as the oil heats up or the sensor. The mchanic here sayd that it
might also be the regulator sticking and then unsticking as the oil warms.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donald Ingram
Sent: 12 August, 2006 23:08
Subject: Re: Europa-List: 912 oil pressure help
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Donald Ingram"
--> <robust_design@hotmail.com>
Will,
If your oil level was very low, the pump might be sucking air while cold oil
slowly drains from the places it pumps to. After it warms and loses
viscosity, it returns to the pump more quickly, raising the pressure again.
Just a thought.
Donald
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: Europa-List: 912 oil pressure help
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
>
>
> My 912 oil pressure is fine on start up then after 2-3 minutes drops to
> under 2 bar and then after a further 3-4 minutes goes back up to normal
> and
> behaves normally thereafter.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Will
>
>
>
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There is a good article in September "Flying" magazine regarding unrecoverable
spins. I found it interesting, particularly since developed spins are not covered
in most of the training done. It is worth picking the magazine up.
Jim Puglise - A-283
Punta Gorda, FL
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<DIV>There is a good article in September "Flying" magazine regarding unrecoverable
spins. I found it interesting, particularly since developed spins are
not covered in most of the training done. It is worth picking the magazine
up.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Puglise - A-283</DIV>
<DIV>Punta Gorda, FL</DIV></body></html>
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Jim,
Any chance of scanning the article and sending it over the pond off
forum as a PDF file if not too big?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: 13 August 2006 16:43
Subject: Europa-List: Stall-Spin
There is a good article in September "Flying" magazine regarding
unrecoverable spins. I found it interesting, particularly since
developed spins are not covered in most of the training done. It is
worth picking the magazine up.
Jim Puglise - A-283
Punta Gorda, FL
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Richard-
Scanning it is no problem but I always worry about copyrights when I do something
like that. If you don't get Flying there, it may be a little different. It
the magazine available in the mother country?
Jim
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From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Jim,
Any chance of scanning the article and sending it over the pond off forum as a
PDF file if not too big?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: 13 August 2006 16:43
Subject: Europa-List: Stall-Spin
There is a good article in September "Flying" magazine regarding unrecoverable
spins. I found it interesting, particularly since developed spins are not covered
in most of the training done. It is worth picking the magazine up.
Jim Puglise - A-283
Punta Gorda, FL
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<DIV>Richard-</DIV>
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<DIV>Scanning it is no problem but I always worry about copyrights when I do something
like that. If you don't get Flying there, it may be a little different.
It the magazine available in the mother country?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jim</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">There is a good article in September "Flying"
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| Subject: | XS Monowheel door sill angle on ground |
--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Would appreciate if someone could tell me the angle of the left door sill
on a XS Monowheel when it is sitting on ground.
"Thinking inside the box" at the moment, installing a box where 2 Andair
375 Gasculators will live and allow draining and servicing from outside,
aft of the trail edge of flaps. I want to make top of box level with
ground, when the plane is sitting on its wheels, so I can drain the last
drop of water out the bowls of Andairs. Our plane is still in cradle.
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Stalls and incipient spin |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Hi all,
The weather suddenly cleared this afternoon, so I took to the air in a
Robin 2160 two seater, a French trainer with some aerobatics capacity.
After some standard positive maneuvers with my student, I suggested
trying to reproduce the dreaded skidded turn stall/spin.
At a comfortable 4000 ft AGL, I first tried with about 1700 RPM, flaps
up (spins with flaps on are a no-no on many light airplanes) and gave a
gentle 30 bank with full inside rudder. Gradually pulling harder and
harder on the stick until full aft, I was unable to stall the airplane.
Tried again at idle, and with full aft stick, was able to reproduce the
low wing drop followed by the inverted entry into incipient spin. Just
centering the stick and rudder immediately regained control and I gently
pulled out. Of course I would not try that near the ground. Total height
loss approached 250-300 ft.
I must say it took a considerable effort to bring the stick and the
rudder to the stop, and at least 10-15 seconds before the wing drop.
Tried again with outside rudder, as in a sideslip. Again, I had to pull
hard before the airplane shuddered then gently dropped the upper wing.
Releasing the controls stopped things in a wing level attitude, with
nearly no noticeable altitude loss.
In my opinion, this is the way a well behaved airplane should react.
When stalling a non-aerobatic plane I usually keep the ball centered.
FWIW,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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