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1. 01:29 AM - Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem (Paul Stewart)
2. 01:42 AM - Re: PFA mods (Brian Davies)
3. 02:57 AM - AW: PFA mods (Ing. Gottfried Komaier)
4. 04:03 AM - Re: PFA mods (William Mills)
5. 04:24 AM - Re: PFA mods (nigel charles)
6. 04:28 AM - Re: Carb. heater block temp. (William Mills)
7. 06:24 AM - Re: Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem (Graham Singleton)
8. 07:32 AM - Re: Carb. heater block temp. (John & Paddy Wigney)
9. 07:32 AM - Re: binx nuts (europa flugzeug fabrik)
10. 08:22 AM - Re: Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem (europa@pstewart.f2s.com)
11. 10:22 AM - Re: Carb. heater block temp. (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
12. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Carb. heater block temp. (mau11)
13. 11:04 AM - Re: Re: Re: Fuel Filters (mau11)
14. 02:10 PM - Re: Carb. heater block temp. (Duncan McFadyean)
15. 02:40 PM - Max range (Richard Holder)
16. 07:03 PM - Strobe Light (Paul McAllister)
17. 08:07 PM - Re: Strobe Light (Fred Klein)
18. 09:03 PM - Re: Strobe Light (Michael Grass)
19. 11:48 PM - Re: Strobe Light (Paul Stewart)
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Subject: | Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <paul@pstewart.f2s.com>
I have replied to Ferg off line enclosing some product info about
binx nuts suggesting they are good for several uses. As I'm now
confused, what have others done - many must have put their engines on
more than once.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 21 Aug 2006, at 05:00, Fergus Kyle wrote:
> Paul,
> By now you will know that the Binx nuts area one-use
> affair, like
> many distortion nuts. I have ordered three spare sets for future
> engine
> removal - just in case.....
> Cheers
> Ferg Kyle
> Europa A064 914 Classic
>
>
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I dont have the answer to your question Simon, but I am also thinking of
fitting a JPI FS450 to my 912S. I have been offered the unit with the
Floscan 231 sensor because I have a carburetted engine. Has anyone
experience of using this sensor on a Rotax 912S or should I insist on
the
Floscan 201 which has a much higher pressure drop.
Brian Davies
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Sent: 20 August 2006 16:50
Subject: Europa-List: PFA mods
Hi all,
Has anyone already got a mod number for adding a JPI FS450 and 2x
Floscan
201=92s to a 914 Europa?
Regards
Simon
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Simon,
I think the 201 Floscan is the right choice. The engine information system
EIS for my 914 is from GRT and works with two 201's. This guys have a long
experience in fuel flow measuring. I think there is a reason why they use
the 201's. And all other companies which I studied before, works with the
201 as well.
Greetings,
Gottfried Komaier
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Brian Davies
Gesendet: Montag, 21. August 2006 10:42
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: RE: Europa-List: PFA mods
I dont have the answer to your question Simon, but I am also thinking of
fitting a JPI FS450 to my 912S. I have been offered the unit with the
Floscan 231 sensor because I have a carburetted engine. Has anyone
experience of using this sensor on a Rotax 912S or should I insist on the
Floscan 201 which has a much higher pressure drop.
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Sent: 20 August 2006 16:50
Subject: Europa-List: PFA mods
Hi all,
Has anyone already got a mod number for adding a JPI FS450 and 2x Floscan
201's to a 914 Europa?
Regards
Simon
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Brian,
I have the 201 in my Benwick fuel computer system and it seems to work
well.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Davies
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA mods
I dont have the answer to your question Simon, but I am also thinking
of fitting a JPI FS450 to my 912S. I have been offered the unit with
the Floscan 231 sensor because I have a carburetted engine. Has anyone
experience of using this sensor on a Rotax 912S or should I insist on
the Floscan 201 which has a much higher pressure drop.
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Sent: 20 August 2006 16:50
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: PFA mods
Hi all, Has anyone already got a mod number for adding a JPI FS450 and
2x Floscan 201=92s to a 914 Europa? Regards Simon
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I am not familiar with the Floscan 231 but the 201 version works well
with the Rotax 912S. When you talk about pressure drop the maximum
stated pressure drop across the sensor for the 201 was given as 0.15psi
(and to achieve that I believe the flow rate had to be about 30galls/hr)
which is not a lot when the system is generally working between 3 and
5psi. The important thing with flow sensors is that they should not
block easily. The Floscan is good in this respect unlike the Elba unit.
The Elba unit can restrict fuel flow enough such that the engine cannot
pass the fuel flow test. A sensor with a good capacity minimises risk of
blockage or flow/pressure restriction but it also needs to be accurate.
In tests with the 201 unit we are finding the quoted accuracy of within
2-3% is very conservative. Typically we are getting accuracies of within
0.25% which is very reassuring when it is used to give a calculated fuel
contents. The repeatable accuracy I am getting means I know my fuel
contents to within 0.25 litres at any stage.
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Davies
Sent: 21 August 2006 09:42
Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA mods
I dont have the answer to your question Simon, but I am also thinking of
fitting a JPI FS450 to my 912S. I have been offered the unit with the
Floscan 231 sensor because I have a carburetted engine. Has anyone
experience of using this sensor on a Rotax 912S or should I insist on
the Floscan 201 which has a much higher pressure drop.
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Sent: 20 August 2006 16:50
Subject: Europa-List: PFA mods
Hi all,
Has anyone already got a mod number for adding a JPI FS450 and 2x
Floscan 201's to a 914 Europa?
Regards
Simon
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Subject: | Re: Carb. heater block temp. |
Svein,
I have the flow control valve installed in my Skydrive system which I
find very useful. Throughout the summer months it is generally off,
because, unless it is very humid, or I am passing through cloud, I do
not believe there is much risk of carb ice. However, if it is left on
in the summer, it can cause problems with fuel vaporisation, when trying
to re-start after stopping the engine for a short while, (e.g. a fuel
stop).
When I had my first set of carb heaters, it was supplied with a
temperature gauge as you describe, so I was able to use the valve to
control the carb temperature in the winter months to about 30 to 40
degs. My latest heaters (with my new engine) do not have the drilling
for a probe, so I have to guess how much to open the valve in the winter
months.
If you use a change-over switch and another probe you can have the
choice of OAT or carb temp at the flick of a switch.
Best wishes,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen
To: Europa List
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Carb. heater block temp.
Having completed the ground testing and awaiting CAA inspection, I
have time to contemplate on one observation made:
The temp. indicator that came with Skydrive's carb. heater blocks for
912S shows block temp increasing as the CHT readings increase. When
reaching 50 degr. C, the indicator flashes HHH (as it is supposed to do
at this temp.).
According to Skydrive's notes, the carb. heater block temp normally is
between 20 and 50 degr. C. This is, I take it, in flight.
Here are my questions to those already flying with this equipment:
- Do the blocks cool down when airborne and operating the engine at
normal flying loads, i.e. when the higher fuel volume evaporation cools
the carburetors from the inside? Or does your temperature reading
always stay below 50 degr. C even when taxiing on the ground?
- Have you fitted any permanent restrictor in the branch-off tube to
the carb. heater blocks, or fitted the flow control valve that Skydrive
provides as an option, in order to keep the carb. heater block temp. in
the range mentioned by Skydrive?
Best regards,
Svein
A225 - now in Norway
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Subject: | Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Paul
If it was my airplane I would not use any Nyloc type nut forward of the
firewall. Nylon softens with heat so what happens to the locking then?
The sensible way is to use AN bolts and castellated nuts with a split
pin, use it as many times as you want with a new split pin. This is also
the way to do it when the bolt is free to rotate.
Graham
Paul Stewart wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <paul@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> I have replied to Ferg off line enclosing some product info about
> binx nuts suggesting they are good for several uses. As I'm now
> confused, what have others done - many must have put their engines on
> more than once.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
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Subject: | Re: Carb. heater block temp. |
Hi Svein,
I have had the Skydrive carb heater blocks from day 1, they have been
completely trouble free. After start up and during normal flying, the
temp gauge flashes 'HHH'. In cold weather, the temperature indication
sometimes falls below 50 deg C. I have no restrictors and no control
valve, they are not necessary in my opinion.
Cheers,
John
N262WF, monoXS, 912S, 500+ hours
Mooresville, North Carolina
*From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
*Subject: Europa-List: Carb. heater block temp.
*Having completed the ground testing and awaiting CAA inspection, I have time to
contemplate on one observation made:
*The temp. indicator that came with Skydrive's carb. heater blocks for 912S shows
block temp increasing as the CHT readings *increase. When reaching 50 degr.
C, the indicator flashes HHH (as it is supposed to do at this temp.).
*According to Skydrive's notes, the carb. heater block temp normally is between
20 and 50 degr. C. This is, I take it, in *flight.
*Here are my questions to those already flying with this equipment:
*- Do the blocks cool down when airborne and operating the engine at normal flying
loads, i.e. when the higher fuel volume *evaporation cools the carburetors
from the inside? Or does your temperature reading always stay below 50 degr.
C even when *taxiing on the ground?
*- Have you fitted any permanent restrictor in the branch-off tube to the carb.
heater blocks, or fitted the flow control *valve that Skydrive provides as an
option, in order to keep the carb. heater block temp. in the range mentioned
by *Skydrive?
*Best regards, Svein A225 - now in Norway
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "europa flugzeug fabrik" <n3eu@comcast.net>
paul(at)pstewart.f2s.com wrote:
> We have just re fitted our engine having removed it for fuselage painting. The
M10 binx nuts don't seem to feel as 'stiff' on tightening as they did. Are
they by any chance one use only - ?????
I found it easy to drill holes in both the bolt head and nut, and safety wire them
together. Used a high-quality drill bit and variable speed drill, probably
1/16".
Fred F.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=56066#56066
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Subject: | Re: Binx, bincus, binxi, bictem |
--> Europa-List message posted by: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
Graham
They are not nyloc nuts.
Paul
Quoting Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> Paul
> If it was my airplane I would not use any Nyloc type nut forward of the
> firewall. Nylon softens with heat so what happens to the locking then?
> The sensible way is to use AN bolts and castellated nuts with a split
> pin, use it as many times as you want with a new split pin. This is also
> the way to do it when the bolt is free to rotate.
> Graham
>
> Paul Stewart wrote:
>
> > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <paul@pstewart.f2s.com>
> >
> > I have replied to Ferg off line enclosing some product info about
> > binx nuts suggesting they are good for several uses. As I'm now
> > confused, what have others done - many must have put their engines on
> > more than once.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> > G-GIDY
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Carb. heater block temp. |
To all who responded so quickly to my question:
Thank you very much!
Best regards,
Svein
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Subject: | Re: Carb. heater block temp. |
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Filters |
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Subject: | Re: Carb. heater block temp. |
By way of comparison, my carb body temps (i.e. as measured on the
outside of the venturi, not on the heater block) have run at between 23C
and 53C between the hottest and coldest days of UK operation over a
period of 5 years; the latter temperature being untypical and during the
recent record July temperatures of 30C+.
But I don't have the Skydrive carb heater fitted.
Rather, I have the Classic style of rear exhaust header, where the
exhaust pipe passes quite close to the carb. Also, carburettor air is
taken from under the cowl, not from outside, which is undesirable on two
counts, but I have never experienced carb icing.
Temperatures go up during taxiing, down during flight. Hot starting can
be a problem with Mogas.
Next trick is to see what temps. are experienced with external air.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen
To: Europa List
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:56 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Carb. heater block temp.
Having completed the ground testing and awaiting CAA inspection, I
have time to contemplate on one observation made:
The temp. indicator that came with Skydrive's carb. heater blocks for
912S shows block temp increasing as the CHT readings increase. When
reaching 50 degr. C, the indicator flashes HHH (as it is supposed to do
at this temp.).
According to Skydrive's notes, the carb. heater block temp normally is
between 20 and 50 degr. C. This is, I take it, in flight.
Here are my questions to those already flying with this equipment:
- Do the blocks cool down when airborne and operating the engine at
normal flying loads, i.e. when the higher fuel volume evaporation cools
the carburetors from the inside? Or does your temperature reading
always stay below 50 degr. C even when taxiing on the ground?
- Have you fitted any permanent restrictor in the branch-off tube to
the carb. heater blocks, or fitted the flow control valve that Skydrive
provides as an option, in order to keep the carb. heater block temp. in
the range mentioned by Skydrive?
Best regards,
Svein
A225 - now in Norway
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
The excel spreadsheet was pretty but didn't show the
answer to the question. It should not graph the
"difference between this speed and the speed at the
previous MP".
What matters is range, and that is determined by IAS and mpg.
I have to assume the quoted figures are right, in which
case the obvious is proven. The slower you go the greater
the range - in fact the range at 23 MAP (65 knots) is 50%
more than the range at 33 MAP (141 knots). However no
range is lost by increasing the MAP from 23 to 25.
Assuming the fuel burn figures are Imp galls per hour, and
that the tank holds 15 gallons (imp)
at MAP 23 the range is 443 nM which takes 6.8 hours and
at MAP 33 the range is 302 nM which takes 2.1 hours
MAP nM IAS range duration
/gall nM hrs
23 30 65 443 6.8
24 30 88 455 5.2
25 30 108 450 4.2
26 28 120 419 3.5
27 26 125 383 3.1
28 24 129 365 2.8
29 23 131 345 2.6
30 23 133 338 2.5
31 21 136 319 2.3
32 20 139 307 2.2
33 20 141 302 2.1
This analysis shows much more clearly the difference
between the tortoise (at MAP 23) and the hare (at 33 !)
I am sure these figures are with a fixed pitch prop. I am
not sure which engine is shown either. With a CS prop
there is another parameter involved - so 3D graphing is
required :-)
With my 912S with Airmaster I get at 4600 rpm and 25.5 MAP
16 litres an hour and 115 knots.
MAP Burn nM IAS range duration
/gall nM hrs
25.5 3.5 32.7 115 490 4.3
I see that as a fair compromise between speed and economy :-)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Hi all,
When I was at the PFA rally in 2003 I purchased a nice tear drop shaped
strobe light which I installed on my fin.
Unfortunately the cover either fell off or, more likely was "appropriated"
at I fly in I went to last week. I'd like to buy another one, but I can't
remember the suppler. If anyone could hazard a guess as to who the suppler
was along with a WEB page I'd certainly appreciate it.
Thanks, Paul
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Subject: | Re: Strobe Light |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Paul...I thought you had a Whelen A500A-14-V on your fin. Are you
saying you had found a tear drop shaped cover for it?
Fred
A194
On Monday, August 21, 2006, at 07:02 PM, Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I was at the PFA rally in 2003 I purchased a nice tear drop shaped
> strobe light which I installed on my fin.
>
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Subject: | Re: Strobe Light |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
Paul,
I could sworn you had a Kuntzelman Strobe which you get at www.kestrobes.com
Click on the button for the online store and you find the spare parts. Spare
lenses are $10.
But I am not 100% sure. The last time I have seen your plane was about 1
year ago.
Michael Grass
A266 Trigear
Detroit Mi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 10:02 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Strobe Light
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I was at the PFA rally in 2003 I purchased a nice tear drop shaped
> strobe light which I installed on my fin.
>
> Unfortunately the cover either fell off or, more likely was "appropriated"
> at I fly in I went to last week. I'd like to buy another one, but I can't
> remember the suppler. If anyone could hazard a guess as to who the
> suppler
> was along with a WEB page I'd certainly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Strobe Light |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Paul
I've not seen your plane but there is a company in the UK called
airworld who supply teardrop shaped strobe systems - they may well
have been at the PFA rally. Replacement lenses about 44 GBP I think.
www.airworlduk.com
regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 22 Aug 2006, at 03:02, Paul McAllister wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Paul McAllister"
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I was at the PFA rally in 2003 I purchased a nice tear drop
> shaped
> strobe light which I installed on my fin.
>
> Unfortunately the cover either fell off or, more likely was
> "appropriated"
> at I fly in I went to last week. I'd like to buy another one, but
> I can't
> remember the suppler. If anyone could hazard a guess as to who the
> suppler
> was along with a WEB page I'd certainly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
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