Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:57 AM - DOTH Thursday (Paddy Clarke)
2. 09:21 AM - Re: DOTH Thursday (Richard Holder)
3. 10:38 AM - Laddingford Fly-In (David Watts)
4. 11:12 AM - Re: DOTH Thursday (Bryan Allsop)
5. 11:52 AM - prop bolts (Paul Stewart)
6. 12:55 PM - Re: prop bolts (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
7. 12:59 PM - Re: prop bolts (Tim Ward)
8. 04:04 PM - Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (m.grass@comcast.net)
9. 04:40 PM - Re: prop bolts (Graham Singleton)
10. 04:43 PM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In (Graham Singleton)
11. 05:04 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Karl Heindl)
12. 05:10 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Tom Friedland)
13. 06:26 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Fred Klein)
14. 07:47 PM - Re: DOTH Thursday (William Mills)
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi Folks,
I was required elsewhere yesterday, so couldn't make Enstone. Did
many others get there?
I'd like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, or wants
to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate ( in Flyer ) on
Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been there so I don't know about
catering.
Cheers, Paddy
ps Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone has strong
views against Sturgate.
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Thursday |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Paddy Clarke wrote:
> Hi Folks, I was required elsewhere yesterday, so
> couldn't make Enstone. Did many others get there? I'd
> like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone,
> or wants to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate
> ( in Flyer ) on Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been
> there so I don't know about catering. Cheers, Paddy ps
> Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone
> has strong views against Sturgate.
Enstone yesterday was three Richards, a Bob, a William and
a Bryan !
Went to Sturgate today - Wed.
Free voucher applies weekends and "some" weekday evenings.
Not Wed noon or Thurs noon. It is only 5 anyway !
The Club that is open at weekends _may_ have catering -
there was just a cup of coffee today ! had to go to
Gamston for lunch ! (Where the resturant is up the stairs
at the back of the Diamond hanger !)
Richard Holder
G-OWWW
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| Subject: | Laddingford Fly-In |
Make a note in your diaries for this Sunday, the 10th September. The
Laddingford Fly-In in Kent, UK.
Laddingford is located 9nm West of Headcorn on the North side of the
East/West railway line. Don't confuse it with Old Hay to the South of
the railway line almost at the same location.
Runways are 11/29 which is 750 mtrs long and 03/21 which is 470 mtrs
long. All circuits to the North or East and the Safetycom frequency
135.47 will be in operation.
We will have a barbecue running from around 12 onwards with a nominal 3
UK Pounds donation asked.
We normally have a good turnout for this with lots of Europas in
attendance, 19 being the rocord to date, so why not come on down and
join in the fun.
Dave Watts
G-BXDY
Laddingford Airfield Manager.
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Thursday |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" <bryan@blackballclub.com>
We missed you at Enstone on Tuesday Paddy. We also missed Mike Gregory and
Roger mills, who turned up on Monday having missed Richard's morning e-mail.
A real shame. Five Europas did make it. It could have been Eight!
Cheers! Bryan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>
>
> Paddy Clarke wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks, I was required elsewhere yesterday, so
>> couldn't make Enstone. Did many others get there? I'd
>> like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone,
>> or wants to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate
>> ( in Flyer ) on Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been
>> there so I don't know about catering. Cheers, Paddy ps
>> Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone
>> has strong views against Sturgate.
>
> Enstone yesterday was three Richards, a Bob, a William and
> a Bryan !
>
> Went to Sturgate today - Wed.
>
> Free voucher applies weekends and "some" weekday evenings.
> Not Wed noon or Thurs noon. It is only 5 anyway !
>
> The Club that is open at weekends _may_ have catering -
> there was just a cup of coffee today ! had to go to
> Gamston for lunch ! (Where the resturant is up the stairs
> at the back of the Diamond hanger !)
>
> Richard Holder
> G-OWWW
>
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS /
914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight
without fouling on the gearbox housing.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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Paul,
For my Woodcomp prop I used a "crowsfoot" open ended socket ( from an auto
supply store), and adjusted the torque
setting for the extra length of the socket.
Dave C-FBZI
Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
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09/06/2006 02:52 PM
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Subject: Europa-List: prop bolts
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS /
914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight
without fouling on the gearbox housing.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Paul,
Make your own torque wrench as I did for the airmaster prop as I had the
same problem.
Bolt the correct spanner size to a piece of 'U' aluminum to take it
exactly to 1 foot length from the bolt to the end. Drill a hole at the other
end and with a spring weight (hardware stall) tighten up the bolt to the
correct torque through the weight at 90 degrees. Very accurate.
Keep the tool as you will need it in the future!!
Cheers,
Tim
Tim Ward
12 Waiwetu Street,
Fendalton,
Christchurch, 8052
New Zealand
Ph +64 3 3515166
Mobile 021 0640221
ward.t@xtra.co.nz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stewart" <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:52 AM
Subject: Europa-List: prop bolts
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS / 914
> combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight without
> fouling on the gearbox housing.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Woodcomp CS curved propeller type |
Hi all,
I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The company
came back with the question "curved or straight" blades!
My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new curved
design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and straight
blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be better for
my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data available?
Thanks in advance
Michael Grass
Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax
Detroit, Michigan
<html><body>
<DIV>Hi all,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp.
The company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades! </DIV>
<DIV>My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the
new curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the
curved and straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which
would be better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance
data available?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks in advance</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Michael Grass</DIV>
<DIV>Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax</DIV>
<DIV>Detroit, Michigan</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></body></html>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Paul
I can lend you a crow'sfoot if you need one?
Graham
Paul Stewart wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS /
> 914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight
> without fouling on the gearbox housing.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
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| Subject: | Re: Laddingford Fly-In |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Dave
won't be there unfortunateley. I have the permit for -DP btw. Shal I
send it to you or Sarah?> and did you get the wieght & balance ?
Graham
David Watts wrote:
> Make a note in your diaries for this Sunday, the 10th September. The
> Laddingford Fly-In in Kent, UK.
>
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| Subject: | Woodcomp CS curved propeller type |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
Michael,
I have never seen the curved design. I bought the two-bladed SR3000/2W which
is a different shape again: quite wide at the root with a lot of twist. It
was designed for the 100-115 hp range.
I am having problems with it which I hope to have resolved soon. Currently
using Warp Drive again.
You should first ask them what engine etc. it was designed for.
Other builders have gone for the straight blades and are very happy with it.
Karl
>From: m.grass@comcast.net
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type
>Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:03:27 +0000
>
>Hi all,
>
>I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The
>company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades!
>My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new
>curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved
>and straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would
>be better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance
>data available?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Michael Grass
>Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax
>Detroit, Michigan
><< Europa___blade_type_B.jpg >>
><< Europa___blade_type_C.jpg >>
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type |
Mike
To hell with performance! The curves are much sexier...
Tom (Stuck with Airmaster straights)
On 9/6/06, m.grass@comcast.net <m.grass@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The
> company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades!
> My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new
> curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and
> straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be
> better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data
> available?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Michael Grass
> Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax
> Detroit, Michigan
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Right on Tom...!
Fred
A194
do not archive
On Wednesday, September 6, 2006, at 05:10 PM, Tom Friedland wrote:
> Mike
>
> To hell with performance! The curves are much sexier...
>
> Tom (Stuck with Airmaster straights)
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| Subject: | Re: DOTH Thursday |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Hi Paddy,
Five made it to Enstone yesterday and Bryan A cooked the bacon butties.
The Last of the Summer Wine formation will be on its way to Caen tomorrow,
so we will see you sometime next week.
We must do a DOTH to the Scilly Isles next week if the weather is OK. There
is a freebie in Flyer.
Best wishes,
William
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paddy Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:55 AM
Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
>
> Hi Folks,
> I was required elsewhere yesterday, so couldn't make Enstone. Did many
> others get there?
> I'd like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, or wants to
> do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate ( in Flyer ) on Thursday
> 7th., 1200ish?. Never been there so I don't know about catering.
> Cheers, Paddy
> ps Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone has strong
> views against Sturgate.
>
>
> Paddy Clarke
>
> Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
>
>
>
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