---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/06/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:57 AM - DOTH Thursday (Paddy Clarke) 2. 09:21 AM - Re: DOTH Thursday (Richard Holder) 3. 10:38 AM - Laddingford Fly-In (David Watts) 4. 11:12 AM - Re: DOTH Thursday (Bryan Allsop) 5. 11:52 AM - prop bolts (Paul Stewart) 6. 12:55 PM - Re: prop bolts (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 7. 12:59 PM - Re: prop bolts (Tim Ward) 8. 04:04 PM - Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (m.grass@comcast.net) 9. 04:40 PM - Re: prop bolts (Graham Singleton) 10. 04:43 PM - Re: Laddingford Fly-In (Graham Singleton) 11. 05:04 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Karl Heindl) 12. 05:10 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Tom Friedland) 13. 06:26 PM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (Fred Klein) 14. 07:47 PM - Re: DOTH Thursday (William Mills) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:00 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke Hi Folks, I was required elsewhere yesterday, so couldn't make Enstone. Did many others get there? I'd like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, or wants to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate ( in Flyer ) on Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been there so I don't know about catering. Cheers, Paddy ps Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone has strong views against Sturgate. Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:43 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder Paddy Clarke wrote: > Hi Folks, I was required elsewhere yesterday, so > couldn't make Enstone. Did many others get there? I'd > like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, > or wants to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate > ( in Flyer ) on Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been > there so I don't know about catering. Cheers, Paddy ps > Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone > has strong views against Sturgate. Enstone yesterday was three Richards, a Bob, a William and a Bryan ! Went to Sturgate today - Wed. Free voucher applies weekends and "some" weekday evenings. Not Wed noon or Thurs noon. It is only 5 anyway ! The Club that is open at weekends _may_ have catering - there was just a cup of coffee today ! had to go to Gamston for lunch ! (Where the resturant is up the stairs at the back of the Diamond hanger !) Richard Holder G-OWWW ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:30 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Europa-List: Laddingford Fly-In Make a note in your diaries for this Sunday, the 10th September. The Laddingford Fly-In in Kent, UK. Laddingford is located 9nm West of Headcorn on the North side of the East/West railway line. Don't confuse it with Old Hay to the South of the railway line almost at the same location. Runways are 11/29 which is 750 mtrs long and 03/21 which is 470 mtrs long. All circuits to the North or East and the Safetycom frequency 135.47 will be in operation. We will have a barbecue running from around 12 onwards with a nominal 3 UK Pounds donation asked. We normally have a good turnout for this with lots of Europas in attendance, 19 being the rocord to date, so why not come on down and join in the fun. Dave Watts G-BXDY Laddingford Airfield Manager. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:23 AM PST US From: "Bryan Allsop" Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday --> Europa-List message posted by: "Bryan Allsop" We missed you at Enstone on Tuesday Paddy. We also missed Mike Gregory and Roger mills, who turned up on Monday having missed Richard's morning e-mail. A real shame. Five Europas did make it. It could have been Eight! Cheers! Bryan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Holder" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Holder > > > Paddy Clarke wrote: > >> Hi Folks, I was required elsewhere yesterday, so >> couldn't make Enstone. Did many others get there? I'd >> like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, >> or wants to do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate >> ( in Flyer ) on Thursday 7th., 1200ish?. Never been >> there so I don't know about catering. Cheers, Paddy ps >> Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone >> has strong views against Sturgate. > > Enstone yesterday was three Richards, a Bob, a William and > a Bryan ! > > Went to Sturgate today - Wed. > > Free voucher applies weekends and "some" weekday evenings. > Not Wed noon or Thurs noon. It is only 5 anyway ! > > The Club that is open at weekends _may_ have catering - > there was just a cup of coffee today ! had to go to > Gamston for lunch ! (Where the resturant is up the stairs > at the back of the Diamond hanger !) > > Richard Holder > G-OWWW > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:05 AM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: prop bolts --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS / 914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight without fouling on the gearbox housing. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:53 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: prop bolts From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Paul, For my Woodcomp prop I used a "crowsfoot" open ended socket ( from an auto supply store), and adjusted the torque setting for the extra length of the socket. Dave C-FBZI Paul Stewart Sent by: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 09/06/2006 02:52 PM Please respond to europa-list To: "europa-list@matronics.com" cc: Subject: Europa-List: prop bolts --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS / 914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight without fouling on the gearbox housing. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:52 PM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Re: Europa-List: prop bolts --> Europa-List message posted by: "Tim Ward" Paul, Make your own torque wrench as I did for the airmaster prop as I had the same problem. Bolt the correct spanner size to a piece of 'U' aluminum to take it exactly to 1 foot length from the bolt to the end. Drill a hole at the other end and with a spring weight (hardware stall) tighten up the bolt to the correct torque through the weight at 90 degrees. Very accurate. Keep the tool as you will need it in the future!! Cheers, Tim Tim Ward 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch, 8052 New Zealand Ph +64 3 3515166 Mobile 021 0640221 ward.t@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Europa-List: prop bolts > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > > Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS / 914 > combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight without > fouling on the gearbox housing. > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:49 PM PST US From: m.grass@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type Hi all, I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades! My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data available? Thanks in advance Michael Grass Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax Detroit, Michigan
Hi all,
 
I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades!
My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new curved design from  Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data available?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Michael Grass
Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax
Detroit, Michigan
 
________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:12 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: prop bolts --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton Paul I can lend you a crow'sfoot if you need one? Graham Paul Stewart wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart > > Anyone got a top tip for torquing up the prop bolts (Airmaster CS / > 914 combo) - I can't get a socket and torque wrench on straight > without fouling on the gearbox housing. > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:35 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Laddingford Fly-In --> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton Dave won't be there unfortunateley. I have the permit for -DP btw. Shal I send it to you or Sarah?> and did you get the wieght & balance ? Graham David Watts wrote: > Make a note in your diaries for this Sunday, the 10th September. The > Laddingford Fly-In in Kent, UK. > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:04:47 PM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" Michael, I have never seen the curved design. I bought the two-bladed SR3000/2W which is a different shape again: quite wide at the root with a lot of twist. It was designed for the 100-115 hp range. I am having problems with it which I hope to have resolved soon. Currently using Warp Drive again. You should first ask them what engine etc. it was designed for. Other builders have gone for the straight blades and are very happy with it. Karl >From: m.grass@comcast.net >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type >Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:03:27 +0000 > >Hi all, > >I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The >company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades! >My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new >curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved >and straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would >be better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance >data available? > >Thanks in advance > >Michael Grass >Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax >Detroit, Michigan ><< Europa___blade_type_B.jpg >> ><< Europa___blade_type_C.jpg >> ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:10:43 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type Mike To hell with performance! The curves are much sexier... Tom (Stuck with Airmaster straights) On 9/6/06, m.grass@comcast.net wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The > company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades! > My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new > curved design from Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and > straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be > better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data > available? > > Thanks in advance > > Michael Grass > Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax > Detroit, Michigan > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type From: Fred Klein --> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein Right on Tom...! Fred A194 do not archive On Wednesday, September 6, 2006, at 05:10 PM, Tom Friedland wrote: > Mike > > To hell with performance! The curves are much sexier... > > Tom (Stuck with Airmaster straights) ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:52 PM PST US From: "William Mills" Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" Hi Paddy, Five made it to Enstone yesterday and Bryan A cooked the bacon butties. The Last of the Summer Wine formation will be on its way to Caen tomorrow, so we will see you sometime next week. We must do a DOTH to the Scilly Isles next week if the weather is OK. There is a freebie in Flyer. Best wishes, William Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Clarke" Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 8:55 AM Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Thursday > --> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke > > Hi Folks, > I was required elsewhere yesterday, so couldn't make Enstone. Did many > others get there? > I'd like to fly tomorrow, so if anyone else missed Enstone, or wants to > do another DOTH so soon, how about Sturgate ( in Flyer ) on Thursday > 7th., 1200ish?. Never been there so I don't know about catering. > Cheers, Paddy > ps Another possibility is Shipdam ( in Pilot ) , if anyone has strong > views against Sturgate. > > > Paddy Clarke > > Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM > > >