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     1. 05:39 AM - Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type (David Joyce)
     2. 06:59 AM - Feathering on Woodcomp (Karl Heindl)
     3. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: First Run Up (astills)
     4. 10:38 AM - Europa ICAO designator? (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
     5. 11:16 AM - Re: prop bolts (BEBERRY@aol.com)
     6. 11:36 AM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Mike Gregory)
     7. 12:09 PM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Raimo Toivio)
     8. 12:18 PM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Tim Ward)
     9. 12:26 PM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Robert Hitchcock)
    10. 12:35 PM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Richard Iddon)
    11. 01:46 PM - Re: landinglight. (Raimo Toivio)
    12. 02:02 PM - Wing Walk Tape (steve v.)
    13. 02:08 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Raimo Toivio)
    14. 03:36 PM - Re: Wing Walk Tape (R.C.Harrison)
    15. 03:43 PM - Re: Landing Lights (Karl Heindl)
    16. 04:06 PM - Re: Wing Walk Tape (Rman)
    17. 07:28 PM - Re: landinglight. ()
    18. 07:59 PM - Re: Wing Walk Tape (Tom Friedland)
    19. 08:17 PM - Re: prop bolts (Kingsley Hurst)
    20. 10:29 PM - Re: Wing Walk Tape (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
    21. 10:29 PM - Re: Europa ICAO designator? (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
      
      Michael, I have been away last week, but am sure you have made a good
      decision. The SR3000 is an impressive prop and the curved blades certainly
      seemed to have an edge over the straight blades in the tests that I helped
      William Mills do on his plane. Regards, David Joyce
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <m.grass@comcast.net>
      Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 12:03 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp CS curved propeller type
      
      
      > Hi all,
      >
      > I am just about ready to order my cs prop. I was set on the Woodcomp. The
      company came back with the question "curved or straight" blades!
      > My question now is: Did anybody on this list has some comments on the new
      curved design from  Woodcomp? Attached you find pictures from the curved and
      straight blade design. I could not get good advise so far which would be
      better for my Tri Gear Europa XS with a 914. Are there any performance data
      available?
      >
      > Thanks in advance
      >
      > Michael Grass
      > Europa XS TriGear, 914 Rotax
      > Detroit, Michigan
      > ________________________________________________________________________
      >
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| Subject:  | Feathering on Woodcomp | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      
      
      If there is anyone out there with a SR3000 with feathering option and a 9xx: 
      exactly where did you connect the two magneto sensor wires ?
      I connected mine to the L  and  R positions of the ACS keyed ignition 
      switch, which are the brown wires coming out of the Ducati box. The 
      feathering is supposed to be fully automatic. I can only get it to feather 
      by disconnecting those two wires.
      I have contacted Woodcomp but replies can take up to two weeks.
      
      Karl
      
      
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| Subject:  | RE: First Run Up | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "astills" <astills@cox.net>
      
      
      Dan,
      Thanks for the comments..they paint job came out great. You'll have to see.
      Al Stills
      N625AZ
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you 
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
      Thanks in advance,
      Svein
      
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      Inexperienced as I am (1 year with a Europa) perhaps I can ask more  advice.
      
      Today I wheeled my 914 out of the hangar for the first time in a good few  
      weeks (having been away for some time) and immediately I noticed a slight clear
      
      oil drip from the air box breather pipe.
      
      Engine was not started until later (ran beautifully) so I am puzzled at why  
      this should happen.  The engine has been dry as a bone until now but has  not 
      been run for some two months.
      
      Comments please.
      
      Thanks 
      
      Patrick
      
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| Subject:  | Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      EUPA
      
      
      Regards
      
      
      Mike
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sidsel & Svein
      Johnsen
      Sent: 11 September 2006 18:37
      Subject: Europa-List: Europa ICAO designator?
      
      
      Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
      
      Thanks in advance,
      
      Svein
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      How about EUPA?
      
      Regards, Raimo
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen 
        To: Europa List 
        Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:37 PM
        Subject: Europa-List: Europa ICAO designator?
      
      
        Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you 
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
        Thanks in advance,
        Svein
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      Svein,
      It is EUPA.
      Cheers,
      Tim
      Tim Ward
      12 Waiwetu Street,
      Fendalton,
      Christchurch, 8052
      New Zealand
      
      Ph +64 3 3515166
      Mobile 021 0640221
      ward.t@xtra.co.nz
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen 
        To: Europa List 
        Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 5:37 AM
        Subject: Europa-List: Europa ICAO designator?
      
      
        Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you 
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
        Thanks in advance,
        Svein
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      The designator is "EUPA"
      
      Regards
      
      Bob
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen 
        To: Europa List 
        Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 6:37 PM
        Subject: Europa-List: Europa ICAO designator?
      
      
        Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you 
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
        Thanks in advance,
        Svein
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      ICAO code for Europa is EUPA although nor a lot of controllers seen to
      recognise it. 
      
      Richard Iddon G-RIXS
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sidsel &
      Svein Johnsen
      Sent: 11 September 2006 18:37
      Subject: Europa-List: Europa ICAO designator?
      
      Anyone know the ICAO designator (if any) for Europa?  Or, what do you
      commonly use which is accepted when e.g. filing flight plans?
      
      Thanks in advance,
      Svein
      
      
      "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List"http://www.matronics.com
      /Navigator?Europa-List
      "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com
      "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribu
      tion
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: landinglight. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
      
      Hi Ron
      
      Sorry for delay - I was a week in
      an archipelago having a camp school
      with 23 about 11 years old kids,
      among them my daughter Arla...
      
      Landing light: it is installed through
      light alloy air duct below prop. It
      is looking up (7 degrees!) when on 
      the ground (monowheel!) but about 
      levelled when flying some day. High
      voltage ballast has been installed on the
      firewall front of the pilots legs. By the
      way I fixed that Xenon by extraordinary
      way. No bolts and nuts at all - only by 
      Sikaflex 221 adhesive sealant system 
      (I hardly can wait when my supervisor 
      will see it!). The distance to the silencer
      is about 30 mm and I am little worried.
      Maybe I have to put some heat barrier
      between them.
      
      Taxi light: it is installed on the co-pilot
      side fire wall (yes - inside the cowlings!).
      It is lurking through that extra Naca inlet
      which locates stbd side, lower cowling
      (I have no turbo so I hope it is extra for me!).
      The ballast is fixed on the side stiffener of the
      cooling air duct. When on the taxi position,
      the hottest spot of that light beam is about
      15 metres front of the plane.
      
      I was there playing games with them last night
      and really they were like sun itself - two of them.
      
      I estimate those 35 W Xenons are equal like 500 W
      halogen lights in my work shop. The light beam
      reaches more than 100 m /300 feets. Still I can
      keep my hand on the glass of the Xenon w/o burn,
      it is almost cool.
      
      Noise problem? I suppose you are talking about
      radio problems or what? Honestly I do not know
      yet, my radios has been tested before Xenons.
      When connecting on the Xenons man can hear
      quite a sexy sound for a while but not very long,
      unfortunately.
      
      I took some pics and let you know the link soon,
      hope tomorrow.
      
      My highly recommendation...
      
      Regards, Raimo
      ==========
      Raimo M W Toivio
      
      OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417 
      OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk
      OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines (grounded)
      
      37500  Lempaala
      Finland
      tel + 358 3 3753 777
      fax + 358 3 3753 100
      gsm + 358 40 590 1450
      
      raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
      www.rwm.fi
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 2:32 PM
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: landinglight.
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      > 
      > Hello Raimo
      > 
      > "I have Hella Xenon-lights, both landing and taxilights.
      > They are extremely powerfull, long-life enough, vibration resistant and
      > take only 3A.
      > Also its size is reasonable,the lenght is about 100 mm and diameter about
      > 50 mm you can purchase round or square model if you like).
      > Of course they heavier than those led-toys but less than man can guess."
      > 
      > Where did you install them in your Europa?
      > Have a picture?
      > Any noise problems?
      > 
      > Thx.
      > Ron Parigoris
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      
      Hi, has anyone got approximate dimentions for placing the wing walk tape 
      or a picture of the upper wing surface ,i cant seem to find it in the manual ,
      
      also , the factory tape is white, has anyone used black?
      
      steve vestuti #573
      ----------------
      Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Lights | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
      
      Dear Karl,
      
      in my case the night flight 
      is the best part of flying.
      And in Finland when it is dark
      it is really dark. And almost
      all the runways are unlit and
      those with lights are saving energy...
      
      I have to say when landing in the night 
      and your plane falls to the total darkness 
      between trees you miss good light. 
      That is Xenon light.
      
      The 100 W halogen bulb of my Cessnas
      landing light is like grand mamas candle
      lantern when comparing to the 35 W Xenon. 
      
      And for those day-time-only-pilots landing
      light is extra safety. When on you are very 
      visible.  
      
      For me personally those lights are necessary.
      No matter how much they cost, drink or weigh.
      
      "I wish (some Xenon) light for the people 
      which wanders in the darkness"
      
      Regards, Raimo
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:33 PM
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Landing Lights
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      > 
      > 
      > I remember John Hurst saying: what do you need landing lights for ? He was a
      
      > frequent night flyer.
      > Why carry that extra junk when 99.9 % of the time you are flying at daytime 
      > anyway. And you are unlikely to land on an unlit runway.
      > 
      > do not archive
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > >From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
      > >To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > >Subject: Europa-List: Landing Lights
      > >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:55:33 -0400
      > >
      > >   There are substantial differences (orders of magnitude) in light flux
      > >between what is useful
      > >as a recognition or anti-collision light and a useful landing light.  I
      > >have been looking for years
      > >at automotive auxillary halogen lights (the 35 or 50 watt) variety and
      > >even bought two
      > >different pairs to evaluate.  In my opinion, they are not useful as actual
      > >landing lights.
      > >
      > >Landing lights like the GE 4509 PAR are just much more bright and
      > >appropriately collimated
      > >to the specific task by the reflector housing.
      > >
      > >I mentioned last year that Lo Presti Speed Merchants have GA (TSO quality
      > >for retrofit to commercial)
      > >Xenon systems for approximately $350 for the homebuilt version.  The offer
      > >is still good as of Oshkosh 06.
      > >Xenon is really the best way to go at present, very long life, vibration
      > >resistant, a quarter or less current
      > >draw vs the old GE, and no RFI with appropriate shielding.
      > >
      > >Certainly for a Nose Gear mount, Xenon would be first choice.
      > >
      > >Ira N224XS
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
      
      Hi! Steve
      You must only use white.
      Any colour on upper structural surface will cause a heat build up
      threatening the structural strength.
      Can't help with official dimensions.
      Regards
      Bob Harrison
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve v.
      Sent: 11 September 2006 22:02
      Subject: Europa-List: Wing Walk Tape
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      
      Hi, has anyone got approximate dimentions for placing the wing walk tape
      
      or a picture of the upper wing surface ,i cant seem to find it in the
      manual , 
      also , the factory tape is white, has anyone used black?
      
      steve vestuti #573
      ----------------
      Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Landing Lights | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      
      
      Dear Raimo,
      
      I am very happy for you, I didn't really want to be critical. Actually, I 
      did install allthe wiring etc. for landing lights, but then never found a 
      strong reason to install the light itself. Those xenon lights really seem 
      the business. I am not brave enough to fly at night, although I had the 
      training. In the US, where I got my original licence in Colorado, night 
      flying is very popular, but there are long runways almost everywhere within 
      gliding distance. It was fun to turn the airport lights on and off to check 
      your position. But then, if you fly into Oshkosh, they tell you to turn off 
      your lights.
      
      Best regards,
      
      karl
      
      
      >From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
      >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
      >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Landing Lights
      >Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:15:28 +0300
      >
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
      >
      >Dear Karl,
      >
      >in my case the night flight
      >is the best part of flying.
      >And in Finland when it is dark
      >it is really dark. And almost
      >all the runways are unlit and
      >those with lights are saving energy...
      >
      >I have to say when landing in the night
      >and your plane falls to the total darkness
      >between trees you miss good light.
      >That is Xenon light.
      >
      >The 100 W halogen bulb of my Cessnas
      >landing light is like grand mamas candle
      >lantern when comparing to the 35 W Xenon.
      >
      >And for those day-time-only-pilots landing
      >light is extra safety. When on you are very
      >visible.
      >
      >For me personally those lights are necessary.
      >No matter how much they cost, drink or weigh.
      >
      >"I wish (some Xenon) light for the people
      >which wanders in the darkness"
      >
      >Regards, Raimo
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
      >Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:33 PM
      >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Landing Lights
      >
      >
      > > --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
      > >
      > >
      > > I remember John Hurst saying: what do you need landing lights for ? He 
      >was a
      > > frequent night flyer.
      > > Why carry that extra junk when 99.9 % of the time you are flying at 
      >daytime
      > > anyway. And you are unlikely to land on an unlit runway.
      > >
      > > do not archive
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > >From: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
      > > >To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > > >Subject: Europa-List: Landing Lights
      > > >Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 11:55:33 -0400
      > > >
      > > >   There are substantial differences (orders of magnitude) in light 
      >flux
      > > >between what is useful
      > > >as a recognition or anti-collision light and a useful landing light.  I
      > > >have been looking for years
      > > >at automotive auxillary halogen lights (the 35 or 50 watt) variety and
      > > >even bought two
      > > >different pairs to evaluate.  In my opinion, they are not useful as 
      >actual
      > > >landing lights.
      > > >
      > > >Landing lights like the GE 4509 PAR are just much more bright and
      > > >appropriately collimated
      > > >to the specific task by the reflector housing.
      > > >
      > > >I mentioned last year that Lo Presti Speed Merchants have GA (TSO 
      >quality
      > > >for retrofit to commercial)
      > > >Xenon systems for approximately $350 for the homebuilt version.  The 
      >offer
      > > >is still good as of Oshkosh 06.
      > > >Xenon is really the best way to go at present, very long life, 
      >vibration
      > > >resistant, a quarter or less current
      > > >draw vs the old GE, and no RFI with appropriate shielding.
      > > >
      > > >Certainly for a Nose Gear mount, Xenon would be first choice.
      > > >
      > > >Ira N224XS
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing Walk Tape | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
      
      I placed mine approx. 1" from the flap closeout.
      
      Jeff
      - Baby Blue
      
      steve v. wrote:
      
      >--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      >
      >Hi, has anyone got approximate dimentions for placing the wing walk tape 
      >or a picture of the upper wing surface ,i cant seem to find it in the manual ,
      
      >also , the factory tape is white, has anyone used black?
      >
      >steve vestuti #573
      >----------------
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| Subject:  | Re: landinglight. | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
      
      Hello Raimo
      
      "Landing light / Taxi light"
      
      Thx. for the info!
      
      Do not archive
      
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing Walk Tape | 
      
      Hi Steve
      
      I have heard that clear w/w tape available from AC Spruce is better than the
      supplies stuff.
      
      Tom N96V XS mono
      
      
      On 9/11/06, Rman <topglock@cox.net> wrote:
      >
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
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      > I placed mine approx. 1" from the flap closeout.
      >
      > Jeff
      > - Baby Blue
      >
      > steve v. wrote:
      >
      > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      > >
      > >Hi, has anyone got approximate dimentions for placing the wing walk tape
      > >or a picture of the upper wing surface ,i cant seem to find it in the
      > manual ,
      > >also , the factory tape is white, has anyone used black?
      > >
      > >steve vestuti #573
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      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
      
      > Sorry to be so slow on the uptake, and apologies, Svein, for casting doubt 
      > on your suggestion!
      
      Rowland,
      
      If it makes you feel any better, I'm glad you asked the question.  I have 
      known for some time (since purchasing my Airmaster) about the spanner trick 
      but didn't understand how (or why) it worked.
      
      The diagram posted by Svein and your second posting combined sorted it out 
      for me so I am pleased to be able to say I now understand the principle and 
      conseqently will now be able to remember it.
      
      I just wasn't game to ask for fear of getting foot in mouth disease.
      
      So thanks again Rowland and to you too Svein.
      
      Regards
      Kingsley in Oz. 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wing Walk Tape | 
      
      --> Europa-List message posted by: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
      
      Steve,
      
      One of the nice things about building our own aircraft is that we can 
      introduce the small personal touches here and there:
      
      Instead of wing walk tape, which I fear will accumulate dust and dirt over 
      time (the purpose is to put your shoes on it, right?) I bought two suitably 
      sized pieces of dark blue anti-skid table cloth (like very open knit, made 
      of synthetic material) at a boating store, sewed a one inch wide piece of 
      red baggage strap to them, with the other end of the strap tied inside the 
      luggage bay.  Easy to reach from outside to put in place for entering the 
      cockpit, and impossible to forget to take in before take-off because you 
      cannot close the door with the red strap hanging over the lower sill.
      
      When parked, the entire white wing shines white.
      
      Best regards,
      Svein
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 11:02 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: Wing Walk Tape
      
      
      > --> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v." <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
      >
      > Hi, has anyone got approximate dimentions for placing the wing walk tape
      > or a picture of the upper wing surface ,i cant seem to find it in the 
      > manual ,
      > also , the factory tape is white, has anyone used black?
      >
      > steve vestuti #573
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      > Visit EuropaOwnersForum http://www.europaowners.org/
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      >
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa ICAO designator? | 
      
      EUPA it is - thank you very much to all!
      
      Best regards,
      Svein
      
 
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