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1. 03:32 AM - Re: Monowheel sight gauge (josok)
2. 04:15 AM - Re: Postings by Jos Okhuijsen (Kingsley Hurst)
3. 09:12 AM - Re: A Proud Announcement (willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk)
4. 09:21 AM - Re: Monowheel sight gauge (GLENN CROWDER)
5. 10:50 AM - Re: Training on PFA Aircraft (G-IANI)
6. 01:25 PM - Re: transducers (steve v)
7. 02:54 PM - bronze tint vs. clear glazing (Fred Klein)
8. 03:51 PM - Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
9. 04:45 PM - Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing (Fred Klein)
10. 05:19 PM - Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing (europa flugzeug fabrik)
11. 10:45 PM - Re: Monowheel sight gauge (William Mills)
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel sight gauge |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Hi Ron,
I decided to route the tube up the seatback, back in the seatback over the tank,
and up to the breather tube. The reason is that i will be able to see the fuel
level while tanking. The breather tube is connected to the top of the filler
and has it's opening behind the flap extension. You will get the idea of the
latter from the attached picture, where you see the vent system. This is one
of the good ideas of Graham Singleton. I am still thinking of adding a one way
valve there opening in the cockpit, to have a second vent in case the primary
one gets blocked.
Kind Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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Subject: | Re: Postings by Jos Okhuijsen |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@growzone.com.au>
Jos and Jack,
Thank you both for your respective advices in respect of HTML etc. Much
appreciated.
Kingsley
Do not archive
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Subject: | A Proud Announcement |
--> Europa-List message posted by: willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk
Congratulations to you and your son, Brian.
Now I have a question for everyone. My own son, Tom, had about 15 hours dual
training in motorgliders and Grob 109/Tutors before his training was interrupted
by a small health issue. Now he's keen to resume and I see from the PFA's
interpretation of the rules that an owner's close relative can receive training
to PPL level in the owner's plane - in our case an XS Trigear.
What experience or advice does anyone have of using any Europa, especially
the XS Trigear for basic training. Tom seems to be high average/above average
in the relevant competencies as far as I can see.
Cheers
Willie Harrison
G-BZNY
>-- Original Message --
>From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2006 11:47:59 EDT
>Subject: Europa-List: A Proud Announcement
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
>On Wednesday, September 27, 2006 my son Brennan J. Skelly took his first
>solo
>flight. The flight took place at 10:45 Central time at Grand Prairie
>Municipal Airport located in Grand Prairie Texas USA. The sky was a pristine
>blue
>and the winds were light and variable.
>
>After a written examination and a few test runs, Brennan's instructor
>released him for solo. Brennan flew the pattern and made 2 perfect landings
>and ?one
>like his dad makes?. (Whatever that is supposed to mean!!)
>
>Brennan is age 19. He currently attends a local college and in 2007 he will
>
>transfer to North Dakota University to attend the Federal Aviation
>Administration Air Traffic Controller program. He works part time at Grand
>Prairie
>Municipal Airport with the very important duty of fueling the general aviation
>
>fleet. He is also certified to ?Hot Fuel? the emergency helicopters that
>are
>based at that location. In his off times he enjoys working in the shop
with
>his
>father on the Europa XS project.
>
>Brennan represents the third generation of pilots for the Skelly family.
>Upon
>completion of his flight he notified his 90 year old Grandfather James E.
>
>Skelly, who proudly flew in the European theater of W.W.II and later became
>a
>military flight instructor.
>
>Way to go son! Your father is very proud.
>
>Brian Skelly
>Europa XS TriGear #A276
>North Texas USA
>You can see my build photos at:
>http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
___________________________________________________________
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel sight gauge |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
I have routed my sight gauge identically and it works great on the ground,
but
in the air the fuel goes down in the sight gauge by about 3-4 gal. If I
route the
vent into my fuel return line at the top of the tank instead of the fuel
tank breather
tube, I get the same results so the sight guage is pretty worthless while
flying.
Glenn
>From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge
>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:30:46 +0300
>
>--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>
>Hi Ron,
>
>I decided to route the tube up the seatback, back in the seatback over the
>tank, and up to the breather tube. The reason is that i will be able to see
>the fuel level while tanking. The breather tube is connected to the top of
>the filler and has it's opening behind the flap extension. You will get the
>idea of the latter from the attached picture, where you see the vent
>system. This is one of the good ideas of Graham Singleton. I am still
>thinking of adding a one way valve there opening in the cockpit, to have a
>second vent in case the primary one gets blocked.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Jos Okhuijsen
>
>
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>Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12828#12828
>
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>
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>
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Subject: | Training on PFA Aircraft |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Willie
"I see from the PFA's interpretation of the rules that an owner's close
relative can receive training to PPL level in the owner's plane"
Absolutely correct. Irene and I have been doing it for the last six
months. Do not forget that the other restrictions such as a licensed
field and qualified instructor still apply. A few points worth making
are:-
The average flying school owner/CFI will tell will tell you are wrong
and they have never heard of this. If that is the reaction you get it
is obviously the wrong instructor for you.
The instructor must be happy and confident that they have control of the
aircraft from the right seat. So they need to be very experienced or
have some conversion training onto the Europa. As yours is a trigear
this is all possible but on a mono much more difficult. At the very
least they will need time to learn your aircraft's behaviour and
systems.
It will be hard on your aircraft. We have put some 200 landings on ours
in four months. Nothing has broken but you need to keep on top of the
servicing and general maintenance. The instructor and student will pick
up on things you are familiar with and suggest "improvements".
And yes it is much cheaper than club aircraft hire.
Good luck in finding someone suitable and willing. We spent quite a
long time looking.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v " <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
Yes i have have fitted the MGL fuel computer - it has a bar graph which
displays calculated fuel contents, the transducer is a Flosan fitted only in
the feed line -not the return, you can adjust the calibation to allow for the
return unused fuel.
Steve vestuti #573
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Subject: | bronze tint vs. clear glazing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
I'm one who got stiffed on the windscreen & windows w/ the demise of
Europa Acft. and am pondering the question of tinted vs. clear glazing.
I've concerns regarding night flying w/ the tinted plexi, and at the
same time wonder about overheating if I go w/ the clear. I've seen some
Europas which compensate for the extra heat gain w/ the clear by using
overhead screens which are suction-cupped to the "roof".
Is there anyone who regrets their choice (whichever it was) who would
share their experiences?
Is it feasible to extend one's painted finish over some portions of the
plexiglas?...perhaps in some manner which might mitigate overheating
without unduly limiting visability?
Any comments gratefully received,
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing |
You are not the only one that got stiffed on the glass Fred. Fortunately LP
Aero Plastics fixed me up! ( LP Aero 1086 Boquet Rd Jennette, PA 156449730
Phone 724-744-4448)
For a price that is. I went with a clear windshield and light solar gray
windows. Not installed yet. Still packed neatly in the shipping crate.
I was not crazy about the bronze color. In addition I thought that it would
be too dark for the reasons you have mentioned. I believe that the light solar
gray tint will be a good compromise.
By the way The set cost $700.00 last year including the shipping.
Part Numbers are:
Windshield LP-1460 CL
Left Canopy LP-1461 SG
Right Canopy LP-1562 SG
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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Subject: | Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Brian,
Thanks for reminding me of the availability of solar grey tint...I've
been in touch w/ the folks in PA so I am not concerned about sourcing
the components, merely the decision as to type of plexi.
Love to hear from someone who's been flying regarding the questions of
night vision, glare, heat gain, vis a vis clear vs. solar grey tint vs.
bronze tint...(?)...also regarding the question of re-configuring the
shape and extent of the side windows (with paint) as a means to
reducing heat gain. I suspect some distinctive and tasteful shapes
could result from studying such a possibility.
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "europa flugzeug fabrik" <n3eu@comcast.net>
No flight exp yet, but if I take my amber tint glass outside at night, the reduction
in light transmission seems less than 15%. An advantage of amber is better
contrast during daytime. It will mean I would not need my amber tint sunglasses
(Serengetti), but just my slightly tinted bifocal eyeglasses (VariLux progressives,
the ones w/o lines). I now need latter to fly the Grumman AA-5,
and I wish it had amber tint windows. Note that I now dont need sunglasses as
bad as when younger, with a slight case of cataracts. Otherwise, Id have to buy
VariLux in sunglass tint, and VariLux are priced like airplane parts!
Fred F.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=64890#64890
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Subject: | Re: Monowheel sight gauge |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
Jos and Glenn,
I have had the sight tube between the seats of my mono for about 800 hours
of flying now and it is totally reliable as a backup for the fuel computer
if certain measures are taken to keep the horizontal section of tube free
from slugs of fuel.
I keep the sight tube vent separate right up to the filler neck so it is not
influenced by anything else. (Glenn, the fuel return line could bubble
vapour into the gauge and push fuel into the horizontal section, also is the
filler neck vent acting as a pitot and pressurising the tube when flying?
Have you forgotten to drill the little hole facing aft?)
I also have an on / off valve in the sight gauge tube where it tees into the
port side water drain at the tank entry point. This is necessary to stop
fuel from being pushed up the tube into the horizontal section when filling
the tank, because without it the sight tube acts as a another vent to the
tank when being filled. The gauge must of course be calibrated with the
port door sill horizontal so when the tail is on the ground it shows less
fuel than actual. If a slug of fuel gets trapped in the horizontal section
it will distort the gauge fuel level, because the air trapped above the fuel
level is unlikely to be at atmospheric pressure.
Hope that helps.
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
>
> I have routed my sight gauge identically and it works great on the
> ground, but
> in the air the fuel goes down in the sight gauge by about 3-4 gal. If I
> route the
> vent into my fuel return line at the top of the tank instead of the fuel
> tank breather
> tube, I get the same results so the sight guage is pretty worthless while
> flying.
>
> Glenn
>>From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge
>>Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:30:46 +0300
>>
>>--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
>>
>>Hi Ron,
>>
>>I decided to route the tube up the seatback, back in the seatback over the
>>tank, and up to the breather tube. The reason is that i will be able to
>>see the fuel level while tanking. The breather tube is connected to the
>>top of the filler and has it's opening behind the flap extension. You will
>>get the idea of the latter from the attached picture, where you see the
>>vent system. This is one of the good ideas of Graham Singleton. I am still
>>thinking of adding a one way valve there opening in the cockpit, to have a
>>second vent in case the primary one gets blocked.
>>
>>Kind Regards,
>>
>>Jos Okhuijsen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-------------------- m2f --------------------
>>
>>Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>>http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12828#12828
>>
>>-------------------- m2f --------------------
>>
>>
>>Attachments:
>>http://www.europaowners.org//zfiles/img_2454_459.jpg
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