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Thu 10/05/06


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 11:01 AM - Re: Monowheel sight gauge (Roger Bull)
     2. 12:24 PM - Re: Monowheel sight gauge (GLENN CROWDER)
     3. 03:17 PM - New Opportunity . . . (johnb)
     4. 10:25 PM - Wanted: Engine Mount (danbish)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:01:35 AM PST US
    From: "Roger Bull" <roger@middlecave.plus.com>
    Subject: Monowheel sight gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Bull" <roger@middlecave.plus.com> Glenn, Some years ago we had a similar problem. In those days the fuel gauge was tee'd off the line to the engine, and when the fuel level dropped to the point where the gauge showed nearly empty air got into the line, caused the engine to fail, me to force land and considerable embarrassment! Subsequent investigation showed that the flow of fuel past the tee caused a drop in pressure sufficient to show several gallons less in the gauge than the true quntity. The error increases with rate of fuel flow, and hence is only apparent when the engine is producing significant power. I mentioned this in case you may have your gauge connected to the engine supply line rather than a static outlet from the tank. Regards, Roger -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER Sent: 30 September 2006 5:21 pm Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> I have routed my sight gauge identically and it works great on the ground, but in the air the fuel goes down in the sight gauge by about 3-4 gal. If I route the vent into my fuel return line at the top of the tank instead of the fuel tank breather tube, I get the same results so the sight guage is pretty worthless while flying. Glenn >From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:30:46 +0300 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > >Hi Ron, > >I decided to route the tube up the seatback, back in the seatback over the >tank, and up to the breather tube. The reason is that i will be able to see >the fuel level while tanking. The breather tube is connected to the top of >the filler and has it's opening behind the flap extension. You will get the >idea of the latter from the attached picture, where you see the vent >system. This is one of the good ideas of Graham Singleton. I am still >thinking of adding a one way valve there opening in the cockpit, to have a >second vent in case the primary one gets blocked. > >Kind Regards, > >Jos Okhuijsen > > >-------------------- m2f -------------------- > >Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org >http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12828#12828 > >-------------------- m2f -------------------- > > >Attachments: >http://www.europaowners.org//zfiles/img_2454_459.jpg > >


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    Time: 12:24:57 PM PST US
    From: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Monowheel sight gauge
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> Hey Roger! Wow, I really appreciate this info. That hadn't occurred to me as a possibility at all. I have flown a few times when the fuel in the sight gauge almost disappeared so I better get that attended to! I hope your incident caused no damage other than having to launder your shorts promptly! Glenn >From: "Roger Bull" <roger@middlecave.plus.com> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge >Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 18:57:38 +0100 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Bull" <roger@middlecave.plus.com> > >Glenn, > > >Some years ago we had a similar problem. In those days the fuel gauge was >tee'd off the line to the engine, and when the fuel level dropped to the >point where the gauge showed nearly empty air got into the line, caused the >engine to fail, me to force land and considerable embarrassment! > >Subsequent investigation showed that the flow of fuel past the tee caused a >drop in pressure sufficient to show several gallons less in the gauge than >the true quntity. The error increases with rate of fuel flow, and hence is >only apparent when the engine is producing significant power. > >I mentioned this in case you may have your gauge connected to the engine >supply line rather than a static outlet from the tank. > >Regards, > >Roger > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of GLENN >CROWDER >Sent: 30 September 2006 5:21 pm >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> > > I have routed my sight gauge identically and it works great on the >ground, >but >in the air the fuel goes down in the sight gauge by about 3-4 gal. If I >route the >vent into my fuel return line at the top of the tank instead of the fuel >tank breather >tube, I get the same results so the sight guage is pretty worthless while >flying. > > Glenn > >From: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > >To: europa-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel sight gauge > >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 13:30:46 +0300 > > > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "josok" <josok-e@ukolo.fi> > > > >Hi Ron, > > > >I decided to route the tube up the seatback, back in the seatback over >the > >tank, and up to the breather tube. The reason is that i will be able to >see > >the fuel level while tanking. The breather tube is connected to the top >of > >the filler and has it's opening behind the flap extension. You will get >the > >idea of the latter from the attached picture, where you see the vent > >system. This is one of the good ideas of Graham Singleton. I am still > >thinking of adding a one way valve there opening in the cockpit, to have >a > >second vent in case the primary one gets blocked. > > > >Kind Regards, > > > >Jos Okhuijsen > > > > > > > > > >-------------------- m2f -------------------- > > > >Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > >http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12828#12828 > > > >-------------------- m2f -------------------- > > > > > >Attachments: > >http://www.europaowners.org//zfiles/img_2454_459.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:17:46 PM PST US
    Subject: New Opportunity . . .
    From: "johnb" <ropa1300xs@cox.net>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "johnb" <ropa1300xs@cox.net> Hello All: It is now crystal clear to me, that time and circumstances have worked their way with me and I must now sell Europa-XS Kit # A-274. I recently posted a message to this affect in the for sale area of this "Board", as well as on "Barnstormer's". Limited details are at those two locations to include any contact information. My sincere apologies for any violation of protocol or "Spam" policy violation, however, I am certain there is someone out there who would take this kit to the air. Many Happy Landings & "Thank-U", John B. Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12886#12886


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    Time: 10:25:23 PM PST US
    Subject: Wanted: Engine Mount
    From: "danbish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "danbish" <danbish@norwalktucson.com> I put a posting in the "wants" section but happened to think some may not go there that often. I'm looking for an engine mount for a 914/912 if anyone has one. Thought maybe someone with an alternative engine might would use a different type and thus had the Rotax one laying around. Thanks, Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?p=12889#12889




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