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1. 02:04 AM - Re: Trailering (Richard Iddon)
2. 02:52 AM - Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle (David Joyce)
3. 02:53 AM - Trailer for sale (David Joyce)
4. 03:10 AM - Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle (Gilles Thesee)
5. 04:52 AM - Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle (Steve Hagar)
6. 04:55 AM - Re: Engine Assistance Please (R.C.Harrison)
7. 08:26 AM - Re: Less hair raising landings (Craig Ellison)
8. 08:47 AM - Re: Fuel filler tube, how did you finish? (Rman)
9. 10:58 AM - DOTH Mon 16th Wycombe Air Park (Paddy Clarke)
10. 12:02 PM - Re: Trailer for sale (Mike Gamble)
11. 01:09 PM - UMA pressure sensor output (Tony Krzyzewski)
12. 01:49 PM - XS Mono Trailer Required (Mike Gamble)
13. 04:07 PM - Re: Trailering (Jerry Rehn)
14. 04:11 PM - Re: XS Mono Trailer Required (Hans Siedsma)
15. 06:37 PM - Re: Less hair raising landings (Gary R Roberts)
16. 10:12 PM - Woodcomp SR 2000/3 for sale (William Mills)
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Keith,
The Picture is of the professionally made model which I copied. More
details can be found on HYPERLINK
"http://www.wingdolly.reach.net/prices.html"http://www.wingdolly.reach.n
et/prices.html . Mine did not have vertical adjustment which I don=92t
find a problem as I am only using it for the one airplane. I made it so
that the dolly sits about 1 foot inboard of the end of the wing with the
=91plane rigged. Up and down adjustment can be made by moving it further
inboard or outboard. I made the cradle by taking a splash moulding of
the wing at this point using polyester resin & chopped strand mat with
an odd layer of bid and reinforcing it with some tubing glassed onto the
reverse side. My pivot point is about 20in. back from the leading edge.
I also had input from Bob Harrison G-PTAG and William Mills G-HOFC who
have also made similar dollies.
Hope this helps.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Hickling
Sent: 14 October 2006 23:36
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trailering
Hi Rickard,
This dolly looks very nice. Any chance of some more detailed pictures
and or drawings showing pivot points, height adjustment and locking,
dimensions etc?
Regards,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
XS Mono, fuse top on, wings ready to close.
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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:riddon@sent.com"Richard Iddon
"mailto:europa-list@matronics.com"europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailering
Jerry,
I made a wing dolly based on designs I found on the =91net and with
input
from other fliers over here. Couple of pic=92s attached. Works a treat
and I can single handedly rig and derig in about 15 minutes. Cost me
about very little for the bits plus a couple of days work to put
together.
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Steve, Great to hear you have cracked landing the mono. Many of us are still
trying to work it out! Your comment about thinking of foot pressure, rather
than movement, is key to keeping it from snaking down the runway for me.
Your remark about crab angle led me to wonder whether you have
calculated that with a 60 knot approach, the crab angle is the same as the
cross wind. i.e. a crab angle of 20 degrees indicates a cross wind of 20
knots, assuming you are in a stable approach, proceeding down runway
centreline. I mention it because if I find myself still crabbing at 20
degrees near to landing I start thinking about looking for an alternative
runway!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:18 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Less hair raising landings
> After 25 landings in the last 2 days the technique is now becoming
apparrent , though more subconsciously by the feet rather than by the brain.
Several nice squeakers toward the end of the effort were very satisfying
knowing what it takes to do it. Received some wind and rain experience to
boot. Came in several times with the nose crabbed about 20 degrees off the
runway centerline for wind compensation and managed to get the kick to
straight upon touchdown fairly easily. As noted before here many times the
secret it keeping it straight. Early trials had me trying to use the "heavy
boot" technique. This resulted in much lateral use of the runway. My old
tailwheel instructor (who isn't very old) was permitted aboard by an extra
paragraph I had put in my program letter, basically had gotten me to
consider foot "pressures" rather than radical movements. It seems that way
you are automatically ahead of the plane rather than trying to add a bunch
of footwork to cha
> se an excursion to get back to straight. Once out of line it took me
awhile to figure out to lessen up the pressure much before getting straight
or the ship would get out of line the other way. I now just have to make
the feet not forget what they learned if I'm not out there in awhile.
>
> The key seems to be to go at it and go at it hard to get the technique
down. Back to back days seemed to do the trick. However toting the acft.
out to the field and assembling it is still a royal pain in the ass, I will
probably get much less flying than I otherwise would. Though it assembles
and disassembles fairly easily. I have dolly that is bolted and pinned to
the undercarriage that allows me to roll it around without the wings that
takes a little time to do.
>
> Fuel flow meter has been calibrated to within about 1% of at least what
the gas pump reads at a certain particular station.
>
> Still getting some high CO in the cockpit during pattern work after
initial mods. It clears right up when the flaps come up and get some speed
going. Need to get rid of the left eyeball fresh air vent and make it look
like the right side where I have a 1" X 3" rectangular opening inside the
NACA vent. I need to find or fabricate a little door for it to close it off
when not needed. Has any one fabbed up something like this?
>
> Right strobe light is inop, need to investigate.
>
> The plane flys in a straighforward manner and is predictable in every
way. It has about 18 hours on it with about 15 with me at the controls.
>
> My hand held Garmin GPS 92's screen had faded out so much that I can
hardly see it anymore. I'm looking for something new now. Is any one out
there using something they particularly like that they can recommend. I
don't need color or terrain avoidance etc just basic navigation with some
airport information. I had been comfortable with using a stopwatch and a
compass for awhile when my last hand held went south. I am strictly low
tech. Just give me a plane that's reliable, ecomical and flys good. No
need for bells and whistles. Though the tune might change when long cross
country flights become the norm. Erich Trombley's wing auto pilot was nice
to have when droning back from Oshkosh.
>
> Enough rambling for now.
>
> Steve Hagar
> A143
> N40SH
>
>
> Steve Hagar
> hagargs@earthlink.net
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> NHSi Awards, rewarding excellence in health and social care - apply or
nominate before 31st October
> http://www.doctors.net.uk/HSCAwards
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
>
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Subject: | Trailer for sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Richard Glover, (the owner of my hangar at Kemble), has an open 'Europa'
trailer for sale. It is a slightly unusual design, but solid and with good
suspension, previously used for a mono on a cradle but readily convertible
to use with a trike. Basically in good condition but would need a bit of
fine tuning/modification. He is asking for 400 but open to offers. Contact
no 01285 770101
I have pictures of trailer and will happily email to anyone interested.
Regards, David Joyce
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Subject: | Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Hi all,
> if I find myself still crabbing at 20
> degrees near to landing I start thinking about looking for an alternative
> runway!
>
By the way, what are the official cross wind limitations for the
monowheel ? 20 kt cross wind is a respectable value, even for a
conventional airplane.
Since the outriggers may limit bank angle near the ground, isn't there
any difficulty staying on the centerline when decrabbing ?
Thanks,
Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr
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Subject: | Re: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
It was gusty, I didn't have my calibrated left right nose indicator on.
For me "about" 20 degrees when concentrating on keeping the ends from
swapping means "more than ten and less than thirty!" So no I had not
calculated a cross wind component. If it were blowing that hard and steady
the tower probably would have noted it. Also note I have a lot of room to
work with, as all the municiple airports out here are WW-II AF training
training bases. Falcon field was set up to train British Pilots in 1941.
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
> [Original Message]
> From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/15/2006 2:57:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Less hair raising landings, & crab angle
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "David Joyce"
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
>
> Steve, Great to hear you have cracked landing the mono. Many of us are
still
> trying to work it out! Your comment about thinking of foot pressure,
rather
> than movement, is key to keeping it from snaking down the runway for me.
> Your remark about crab angle led me to wonder whether you have
> calculated that with a 60 knot approach, the crab angle is the same as the
> cross wind. i.e. a crab angle of 20 degrees indicates a cross wind of 20
> knots, assuming you are in a stable approach, proceeding down runway
> centreline. I mention it because if I find myself still crabbing at 20
> degrees near to landing I start thinking about looking for an alternative
> runway!
> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> To: "europa-list" <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:18 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Less hair raising landings
>
>
> > After 25 landings in the last 2 days the technique is now becoming
> apparrent , though more subconsciously by the feet rather than by the
brain.
> Several nice squeakers toward the end of the effort were very satisfying
> knowing what it takes to do it. Received some wind and rain experience to
> boot. Came in several times with the nose crabbed about 20 degrees off
the
> runway centerline for wind compensation and managed to get the kick to
> straight upon touchdown fairly easily. As noted before here many times
the
> secret it keeping it straight. Early trials had me trying to use the
"heavy
> boot" technique. This resulted in much lateral use of the runway. My
old
> tailwheel instructor (who isn't very old) was permitted aboard by an
extra
> paragraph I had put in my program letter, basically had gotten me to
> consider foot "pressures" rather than radical movements. It seems that
way
> you are automatically ahead of the plane rather than trying to add a bunch
> of footwork to cha
> > se an excursion to get back to straight. Once out of line it took me
> awhile to figure out to lessen up the pressure much before getting
straight
> or the ship would get out of line the other way. I now just have to make
> the feet not forget what they learned if I'm not out there in awhile.
> >
> > The key seems to be to go at it and go at it hard to get the technique
> down. Back to back days seemed to do the trick. However toting the acft.
> out to the field and assembling it is still a royal pain in the ass, I
will
> probably get much less flying than I otherwise would. Though it
assembles
> and disassembles fairly easily. I have dolly that is bolted and pinned to
> the undercarriage that allows me to roll it around without the wings that
> takes a little time to do.
> >
> > Fuel flow meter has been calibrated to within about 1% of at least what
> the gas pump reads at a certain particular station.
> >
> > Still getting some high CO in the cockpit during pattern work after
> initial mods. It clears right up when the flaps come up and get some
speed
> going. Need to get rid of the left eyeball fresh air vent and make it
look
> like the right side where I have a 1" X 3" rectangular opening inside
the
> NACA vent. I need to find or fabricate a little door for it to close it
off
> when not needed. Has any one fabbed up something like this?
> >
> > Right strobe light is inop, need to investigate.
> >
> > The plane flys in a straighforward manner and is predictable in every
> way. It has about 18 hours on it with about 15 with me at the controls.
> >
> > My hand held Garmin GPS 92's screen had faded out so much that I can
> hardly see it anymore. I'm looking for something new now. Is any one out
> there using something they particularly like that they can recommend. I
> don't need color or terrain avoidance etc just basic navigation with some
> airport information. I had been comfortable with using a stopwatch and a
> compass for awhile when my last hand held went south. I am strictly low
> tech. Just give me a plane that's reliable, ecomical and flys good. No
> need for bells and whistles. Though the tune might change when long
cross
> country flights become the norm. Erich Trombley's wing auto pilot was
nice
> to have when droning back from Oshkosh.
> >
> > Enough rambling for now.
> >
> > Steve Hagar
> > A143
> > N40SH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve Hagar
> > hagargs@earthlink.net
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> > NHSi Awards, rewarding excellence in health and social care - apply or
> nominate before 31st October
> > http://www.doctors.net.uk/HSCAwards
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> >
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Engine Assistance Please |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Alan
He's not spoken to me yet but probably understands with "NO SPEAK" since
I'm changing to a 914 ! I have messaged him though but briefly since it
was late..
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Sent: 15 October 2006 01:06
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engine Assistance Please
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Many thanks to all that offered help and advise on the Jabaru engine. I
have
passed it on, together with details of other aircraft for sale, so
hopefully
we will have another convert in our midst shortly.
Cheers
Alan Burrows
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Subject: | Re: Less hair raising landings |
Steve,
I mounted the AvfMap-IV in my pannel. It has the one of the largest,
sharpest,and brightest screen of any GPS/moving map out there. I love
it.
craig ellison
A205
N205CN
58 hr
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Crimm
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Less hair raising landings
Steve,
I use a Lowrance AirMap 1000
http://www.lowrance.com/Aviation/Products/AM1000.asp works well and the
large display is great for old eyes.
BTW congrates on taming the beast.
Steve
N42AH
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 21:18
To: europa-list
Subject: Europa-List: Less hair raising landings
After 25 landings in the last 2 days the technique is now becoming
apparrent , though more subconsciously by the feet rather than by the
brain. Several nice squeakers toward the end of the effort were very
satisfying knowing what it takes to do it. Received some wind and rain
experience to boot. Came in several times with the nose crabbed about
20 degrees off the runway centerline for wind compensation and managed
to get the kick to straight upon touchdown fairly easily. As noted
before here many times the secret it keeping it straight. Early trials
had me trying to use the "heavy boot" technique. This resulted in much
lateral use of the runway. My old tailwheel instructor (who isn't very
old) was permitted aboard by an extra paragraph I had put in my
program letter, basically had gotten me to consider foot "pressures"
rather than radical movements. It seems th at way you are
automatically ahead of the plane rather than trying to add a bunch of
footwork to chase an excursion to get back to straight. Once out of
line it took me awhile to figure out to lessen up the pressure much
before getting straight or the ship would get out of line the other way.
I now just have to make the feet not forget what they learned if I'm
not out there in awhile.
The key seems to be to go at it and go at it hard to get the
technique down. Back to back days seemed to do the trick. However
toting the acft. out to the field and assembling it is still a royal
pain in the ass, I will probably get much less flying than I otherwise
would. Though it assembles and disassembles fairly easily. I have
dolly that is bolted and pinned to the undercarriage that allows me to
roll it around without the wings that takes a little time to do.
Fuel flow meter has been calibrated to within about 1% of at least
what the gas pump reads at a certain particular station.
Still getting some high CO in the cockpit during pattern work after
initial mods. It clears right up when the flaps come up and get some
speed going. Need to get rid of the left eyeball fresh air vent and
make it look like the right side where I have a 1" X 3" rectangular
opening inside the NACA vent. I need to find or fabricate a little door
for it to close it off when not needed. Has any one fabbed up something
like this?
Right strobe light is inop, need to investigate.
The plane flys in a straighforward manner and is predictable in every
way. It has about 18 hours on it with about 15 with me at the controls.
My hand held Garmin GPS 92's screen had faded out so much that I can
hardly see it anymore. I'm looking for something new now. Is any one
out there using something they particularly like that they can
recommend. I don't need color or terrain avoidance etc just basic
navigation with some airport information. I had been comfortable with
using a stopwatch and a compass for awhile when my last hand held went
south. I am strictly low tech. Just give me a plane that's reliable,
ecomical and flys good. No need for bells and whistles. Though the
tune might change when long cross country flights become the norm.
Erich Trombley's wing auto pilot was nice to have when droning back from
Oshkosh.
Enough rambling for now.
Steve Hagar
A143
N40SH
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron
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Subject: | Re: Fuel filler tube, how did you finish? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Rman <topglock@cox.net>
Glued mine in, per specs and painted up to it. Works fine and has no
deteriation, due to weather...
Jeff - Baby Blue
223 hrs
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
>How did you finish the aluminium fuel filler tube (the tube the fuel cap
>fastens to)?
>
>The aluminium appears to be plated? (Anozized?)
>
>Did you fill and paint to the edge of the aluminium?
>
>Paint the aluminium?
>
>Perhaps 1 layer redux/BID over the tapered part of the filler, and fill
>and paint and really make things smooth and flowing?
>
>How is your way of finishing holding up in service? Picture?
>
>Thx.
>Ron Parigoris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | DOTH Mon 16th Wycombe Air Park |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
Hi All,
Who fancies a DOTH to Wycombe Air Park ( Booker ) tomorrow, Monday?.
The weather is forecast to clear up and it is unusual to find this
place with a voucher - in Flyer. 1200 ish.
Cheers, Paddy
Paddy Clarke
Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM
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Subject: | Re: Trailer for sale |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk>
David, I am in the market for a mono XS trailer. Can you confirm whether
this one is for the XS (with the hinged spar supports)?.
Is it a factory made model?
What age and condition?
Please send any photos you may have to me off line.]
Thanks and regards
Mike
XS mono 440
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Subject: | UMA pressure sensor output |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
Quite a few people have asked for this so I thought I'd post it to the
group.
These output voltages are for the 912 and 914 UMA fuel pressure sensors.
Engine PSI UMA Voltage Status Lights
0 0.02 Low Warning
1 0.78 Low Warning
2 1.38 Low Warning
1.8 Low Warning
3 2.01
4 2.66
5 3.24
3.25 High Warning
6 3.87 High Warning
7 4.44 High Warning
Regards
Tony
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Subject: | XS Mono Trailer Required |
I'm still looking for a trailer for my XS mono.
Have you got one tucked away somewhere.
Details of condition and price to Mike Gamble based in Camberley,
Surrey.
Thanks
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Thanks to all for your trailer responses. I have another "winter"
project now. Will let you know how it works out.
Regards
Jerry
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Subject: | XS Mono Trailer Required |
Hi Mike,
I know two mono trailers. One is in use by me carrying my wing during my
building process. The owner has two both bought from Europe aircraft. He
just has his monowheel converted to a Tri Gear. If you are interested I will
ask him if he willing to sell.
regards,
Hans
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]Namens Mike Gamble
Verzonden: Sunday, October 15, 2006 10:48 PM
Aan: Europa-List@Matronics.Com
Onderwerp: Europa-List: XS Mono Trailer Required
I'm still looking for a trailer for my XS mono.
Have you got one tucked away somewhere.
Details of condition and price to Mike Gamble based in Camberley, Surrey.
Thanks
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Subject: | Re: Less hair raising landings |
Steve,
RE: " I need to find or fabricate a little door for it to close it off
when not needed. Has any one fabbed up something like this?"
Look at Van's Aircraft accessories. There is a simple $18 sheetmetal
door kit that might work for you. Pretty slick.
GRoberts
A187
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:18:04 -0700 "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
writes:
After 25 landings in the last 2 days the technique is now becoming
apparrent , though more subconsciously by the feet rather than by the
brain. Several nice squeakers toward the end of the effort were very
satisfying knowing what it takes to do it. Received some wind and rain
experience to boot. Came in several times with the nose crabbed about
20 degrees off the runway centerline for wind compensation and managed to
get the kick to straight upon touchdown fairly easily. As noted before
here many times the secret it keeping it straight. Early trials had me
trying to use the "heavy boot" technique. This resulted in much lateral
use of the runway. My old tailwheel instructor (who isn't very old)
was permitted aboard by an extra paragraph I had put in my program
letter, basically had gotten me to consider foot "pressures" rather than
radical movements. It seems th at way you are automatically ahead of
the plane rather than trying to add a bunch of footwork to chase an
excursion to get back to straight. Once out of line it took me awhile
to figure out to lessen up the pressure much before getting straight or
the ship would get out of line the other way. I now just have to make
the feet not forget what they learned if I'm not out there in awhile.
The key seems to be to go at it and go at it hard to get the technique
down. Back to back days seemed to do the trick. However toting the
acft. out to the field and assembling it is still a royal pain in the
ass, I will probably get much less flying than I otherwise would.
Though it assembles and disassembles fairly easily. I have dolly that is
bolted and pinned to the undercarriage that allows me to roll it around
without the wings that takes a little time to do.
Fuel flow meter has been calibrated to within about 1% of at least what
the gas pump reads at a certain particular station.
Still getting some high CO in the cockpit during pattern work after
initial mods. It clears right up when the flaps come up and get some
speed going. Need to get rid of the left eyeball fresh air vent and make
it look like the right side where I have a 1" X 3" rectangular opening
inside the NACA vent. I need to find or fabricate a little door for it
to close it off when not needed. Has any one fabbed up something like
this?
Right strobe light is inop, need to investigate.
The plane flys in a straighforward manner and is predictable in every
way. It has about 18 hours on it with about 15 with me at the controls.
My hand held Garmin GPS 92's screen had faded out so much that I can
hardly see it anymore. I'm looking for something new now. Is any one out
there using something they particularly like that they can recommend.
I don't need color or terrain avoidance etc just basic navigation with
some airport information. I had been comfortable with using a stopwatch
and a compass for awhile when my last hand held went south. I am
strictly low tech. Just give me a plane that's reliable, ecomical and
flys good. No need for bells and whistles. Though the tune might
change when long cross country flights become the norm. Erich
Trombley's wing auto pilot was nice to have when droning back from
Oshkosh.
Enough rambling for now.
Steve Hagar
A143
N40SH
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
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