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Wed 10/18/06


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 04:22 AM - Re: BRS/CAPS (William Daniell)
     2. 08:21 AM - FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines (Karl Heindl)
     3. 12:20 PM - Re: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines (Richard Iddon)
     4. 12:32 PM - Pictures of Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD Interior? ()
     5. 01:16 PM - Re: Pictures of Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD Interior? (ivor.phillips)
     6. 01:34 PM - Re: coolant issues? (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
     7. 02:28 PM - Re: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines (Karl Heindl)
     8. 10:06 PM - Re: coolant issues? (Ralph Hallett)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:22:03 AM PST US
    From: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
    Subject: BRS/CAPS
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co> Will look in to it and report back Initial looksee and the BRS site suggests that the weight penalty is around 30+lbs -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 15:18 Subject: Re: Europa-List: BRS/CAPS --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Flyer Magazine were building a europa with BRS system. Saw the partial build at PFA rally several years ago. No idea if it's finished Paul G-GIDY On 17 Oct 2006, at 18:02, William Daniell wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: "William Daniell" > <wdaniell@etb.net.co> > > Anyone tried to install a CAPS (complete airplane recovery system) > like the > cirrus? > > Will > > Almost finished redoing my 0/90 screwup >


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    Time: 08:21:01 AM PST US
    From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE
    BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED HERE ? >From: "updates@rotax-owner.com" <updates@rotax-owner.com> >To: kheindl@msn.com >Subject: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For >912 & 914 Engines >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:42:50 -0700 > >Dear Registered User; > >The following MANDATORY ALERT SERVICE BULLETINS have been released by >Rotax: > >ASB-912-051, >ASB-914-034, >ASB-912-051UL, >ASB-914-034UL > > CHECKING OF MAGNETIC PLUG ON ROTAX ENGINE TYPE 912/914 (SERIES) > >These new Alert Service Bulletins may be downloaded from >www.rotax-owner.com > >ASB-912-051 - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=ASB-912-051&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-914-034 - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=ASB-914-034&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-912-051UL - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=ASB-912-051UL&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-914-034UL - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=ASB-914-034UL&S_TYPE=NW > >** Important Note! >Rotax releases separate Service Bulletins for non-certified engine models. >These service bulletins only contain information regarding the >non-certified engine models affected by the service bulletin. >Full service bulletin information and instructions are found in the >certified service bulletin (without the UL designator). >Owners and operators of non-certified engine models must download and >review both the certified and UL versions of the service bulletin to obtain >complete service information. This e-mail update is provided as a free >service to registered users. > >SERVICE BULLETIN SUMMARY: >THIS SUMMARY IS GENERAL IN NATURE AND ARE NOT INTENDED TO REPLACE THE >INFORMATION PROVIDED IN THE SERVICE BULLETINS. >ALL OWNERS, OPERATORS AND MAINTENANCE PERSONNEL SHOULD OBTAIN AND CAREFULLY >REVIEW THE FULL TEXT OF EACH SERVICE BULLETIN. > >In a limited number of cases, certain conditions may lead to increased wear >on the camshaft and/or hydraulic lifters. Examination of the amount and >consistency of the residue captured on the engine magnetic plug can help to >determine if increased camshaft / hydraulic lifter wear is occurring. > >Owners and operators of all affected engines must have the engine magnetic >plug inspected as per the schedules set out in the Alert Service Bulletins. > >IMPORTANT NOTE! >Section 1.1 of the Alert Service Bulletins (Engines Affected), sets out >certain serial number ranges where compliance with Section 1.5a (inspection >of magnetic plug prior to engine installation or first engine start up) has >already been accomplished prior to engine delivery. Please note that these >engines must still comply with all of the remaining items found in Section >1.5 Compliance including a one time inspection of magnetic plug within >the next 5 hours of operation and inspection of the magnetic plug at each >engine oil change thereafter. > >If owners or operators have any questions regarding the engine serial >numbers affected by this Alert Service Bulletin or the specific compliance >steps required for any particular engine serial number, they should contact >their nearest authorized distributor or service center as soon as possible. > >SERVICE NOTE - REMOVAL OF MAGNETIC PLUG! >Field experience has indicated that extra care must be used when removing >the magnetic plug. To prevent damage to the magnetic plug, removal of the >magnetic plug should only be attempted using a high quality (i.e. Snap-On >brand) TORX 40 driver. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REMOVE MAGNETIC PLUG WITH AN >ALLEN WRENCH ON AFFECTED ENGINES! > >For additional instructions or assistance with magnetic plug removal, >please contact your nearest Authorized Service Center. > > >This e-mail update is provided as a free service to registered users. > >Register with Rotax Owners Association News today! > >If you no longer wish to receive automatic service document notifications >through this account, please follow the following link: > > >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/listremove.asp?action=confirm&id=kheindl > > _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters


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    Time: 12:20:56 PM PST US
    From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
    Subject: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE
    BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines --> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> Karl. My understanding is:- 1). Click on the relevant bulletin below or cut and paste the URL into internet explorer, ASB-912-051 or ASB-914-034 (the UL are for ultralights), This will load the full bulletin from Rotax provided you are on line. 2). Check if the bulletin is relevant for your engine. (my engine number is before that listed in the 912 section). If your engine is not one listed then ignore the bulletin. If it is, then 3). Unscrew the magnetic plug with a torx 40 driver and check for particles. If there are a lot of bits stuck to the plug, as in the picture, then the engine has to be checked before being used again. I personally check the plug at every oil change and have found virtually no particles. Hope this helps. Richard Iddon G-RIXS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl Sent: 18 October 2006 16:20 Subject: Europa-List: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com> DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED HERE ? >From: "updates@rotax-owner.com" <updates@rotax-owner.com> >To: kheindl@msn.com >Subject: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN For >912 & 914 Engines >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:42:50 -0700 > >Dear Registered User; > >The following MANDATORY ALERT SERVICE BULLETINS have been released by >Rotax: > >ASB-912-051, >ASB-914-034, >ASB-912-051UL, >ASB-914-034UL > > CHECKING OF MAGNETIC PLUG ON ROTAX ENGINE TYPE 912/914 (SERIES) > >These new Alert Service Bulletins may be downloaded from >www.rotax-owner.com > >ASB-912-051 - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A SB-912-051&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-914-034 - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A SB-914-034&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-912-051UL - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A SB-912-051UL&S_TYPE=NW > >ASB-914-034UL - >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A SB-914-034UL&S_TYPE=NW


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    Time: 12:32:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Pictures of Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD Interior?
    From: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    --> Europa-List message posted by: <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> Anyone by chance have pictures of a Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD interior that has just been recently offered? Anyone have experiance installing? Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 01:16:10 PM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Pictures of Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD Interior?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com> Hi Ron If you go to http://www.europaowners.org/viewtopic.php?t=3002 You should see some pictures and instructions Regards Ivor Subject: Europa-List: Pictures of Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD Interior? Anyone by chance have pictures of a Europa Aircraft (2004) LTD interior that has just been recently offered? Anyone have experiance installing? Thx. Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 01:34:53 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: coolant issues?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk> According to recent publication by the UK Rotax agent. But it didn't work well (jellied coolant, internal deposits) so got watered down. Duncan McF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:58 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: coolant issues? > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee > <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > Duncan, > > >> >> Or that the 912 was originally designed and approved to run on 100% >> Ethylene Glycol!! > > The 912 designed for 100% Glycol ? Ducan, can you give further details ? > > Thanks, > Regards, > Gilles > http://contrails.free.fr > > >


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    Time: 02:28:46 PM PST US
    From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE
    BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines --> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com> Many thanks, Richard. It sounds easy enough to do. I am seeing the Rotax agent next week anyway, and he can show me what to do. I don't see any reference to this in the maintenance manual, though. Best regards Karl >From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT >SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 20:20:05 +0100 > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> > >Karl. > >My understanding is:- > >1). Click on the relevant bulletin below or cut and paste the URL into >internet explorer, ASB-912-051 or ASB-914-034 (the UL are for >ultralights), This will load the full bulletin from Rotax provided you >are on line. >2). Check if the bulletin is relevant for your engine. (my engine number >is before that listed in the 912 section). If your engine is not one >listed then ignore the bulletin. If it is, then >3). Unscrew the magnetic plug with a torx 40 driver and check for >particles. If there are a lot of bits stuck to the plug, as in the >picture, then the engine has to be checked before being used again. > >I personally check the plug at every oil change and have found virtually >no particles. > >Hope this helps. > >Richard Iddon G-RIXS > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl >Sent: 18 October 2006 16:20 >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: FW: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT >SERVICE BULLETIN For 912 & 914 Engines > >--> Europa-List message posted by: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com> > > >DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT IS INVOLVED HERE ? > > > >From: "updates@rotax-owner.com" <updates@rotax-owner.com> > >To: kheindl@msn.com > >Subject: IMPORTANT! - Release of MANDATORY Rotax ALERT SERVICE BULLETIN >For > >912 & 914 Engines > >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:42:50 -0700 > > > >Dear Registered User; > > > >The following MANDATORY ALERT SERVICE BULLETINS have been released by > >Rotax: > > > >ASB-912-051, > >ASB-914-034, > >ASB-912-051UL, > >ASB-914-034UL > > > > CHECKING OF MAGNETIC PLUG ON ROTAX ENGINE TYPE 912/914 (SERIES) > > > >These new Alert Service Bulletins may be downloaded from > >www.rotax-owner.com > > > >ASB-912-051 - > >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A >SB-912-051&S_TYPE=NW > > > >ASB-914-034 - > >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A >SB-914-034&S_TYPE=NW > > > >ASB-912-051UL - > >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A >SB-912-051UL&S_TYPE=NW > > > >ASB-914-034UL - > >http://www.rotax-owner.com/si_tb_info/getdoc.asp?USERID=kheindl&DOCID=A >SB-914-034UL&S_TYPE=NW > > _________________________________________________________________ Download the new Windows Live Toolbar, including Desktop search! http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb


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    Time: 10:06:29 PM PST US
    From: Ralph Hallett <n100rh@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: coolant issues?
    --> Europa-List message posted by: Ralph Hallett <n100rh@sbcglobal.net> Gilles, Thanks for all the info, as usual you are a great resource. I'm still over a year from completing the Europa, but I won't forget this one. Ralph XS motorglider Reno,NV Gilles Thesee wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Gilles Thesee > <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> > > > Ralph, > >> "...I just heard today that the new waterless fluid is flammable. I >> saw it burn today/ Stemme has issued an urgent SB to remove the stuff >> - I heard 2 fatalities of coolant leak catching fire. The 50 - 50 >> solution will not burn. Oh well! Have you heard anything about this? >> I also discovered that the 100% solution of antifreeze burns too..." > > Yes glycols are flammable. Remember those WWII air combat stories ? > > The NPG+ consists of a blend of different glycols (propylene glycol > seems to be the main component, as in the regular NPG coolant). > Propylene glycol (1,2 propanediol) has a 107C flash point. > Please see SDS here http://www.sargentwelch.com/pdf/msds/sch94661.pdf > > In my opinion, the main hazard is with mists and fumes. A pinpoint > leak may well produce some heavier-than-air flammable mist under the > cowling. > Do you have additional info on this Stemme SB ? > > Nowadays, very few people in Civil Aviation Authorities, if any, have > a clear understanding of what is involved in internal combustion > engine cooling... > From a pure technical point of view, there is little to be gained by > using those water-free coolants. > > Regards, > Gilles Thesee > Grenoble, France > http://contrails.free.fr > >




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