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1. 12:53 AM - pitot static lines (Paul Stewart)
2. 01:36 AM - Re: pitot static lines (Graham Singleton)
3. 02:08 AM - First flight (=?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9mi_Guerner?=)
4. 04:04 AM - Brake fluid (Richard Iddon)
5. 04:27 AM - Fuel Flow transducer (peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk)
6. 04:36 AM - Re: Fuel Flow transducer (Graham Singleton)
7. 05:28 AM - Re: Brake fluid (Brian Davies)
8. 05:31 AM - Re: pitot static lines (NevEyre@aol.com)
9. 05:36 AM - Re: First flight (NevEyre@aol.com)
10. 05:57 AM - Re: pitot static lines (Paul Stewart)
11. 06:14 AM - Re: Brake fluid (Simon Smith)
12. 07:38 AM - Re Prop Inertia (irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu)
13. 09:21 AM - FW: Fuel Flow transducer (Brian Davies)
14. 09:26 AM - Re: Re Prop Inertia (Graham Singleton)
15. 10:24 AM - Rotax 912 Rocker shaft and rocker replacement SB??? (Pete Jeffers)
16. 11:33 AM - Re: Fuel Flow transducer (nigel charles)
17. 12:13 PM - Re: Fuel Flow transducer (steve v)
18. 12:29 PM - Re: First flight (steve v)
19. 01:18 PM - Re: Fuel Flow transducer (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
20. 02:38 PM - Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Alan Burrows)
21. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (GLENN CROWDER)
22. 03:39 PM - Re: PROBABLE SPAM> Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Paul McAllister)
23. 04:29 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Andrew Sarangan)
24. 04:58 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Tom Friedland)
25. 05:07 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Fred Klein)
26. 06:48 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (Steve Crimm)
27. 07:28 PM - Re: Re: Help Required from our American Friends (SPurpura@aol.com)
28. 07:36 PM - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! (Matt Dralle)
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Subject: | pitot static lines |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Can anyone tell me what the tubing supplied by europa for pitot lines
is. It seems to be 1/8 inch I.D. We're needing some more and having
difficulty identifying suitable sized product (eg from ACS catalogue)
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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Subject: | Re: pitot static lines |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Paul
I have used nylon hi pressure tubing, similar to the stuff they use for
fuel lines in cars now. Linings and Hoses in Ashbourn/Derby stock it in
various sizes. You might need to warm it a bit to get it to stretch over
the fittings. Look at both metric and imperial sizes to get the best
fit. It won't degrade and harden like the PU stuff tends to.
Graham
Paul Stewart wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Can anyone tell me what the tubing supplied by europa for pitot lines
> is. It seems to be 1/8 inch I.D. We're needing some more and having
> difficulty identifying suitable sized product (eg from ACS catalogue)
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
>
>
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Congratulations Karel. Hope to see you and your plane some day.
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
Subject: Europa-List: First flight
To all,
Monowheel # 447 F-PKRL , Rotax 912S and Airmaster AP332, took to the
skies above Sedan-Douzy in France the proud owner for the first time on
28th october.
The specs will be posted to Brian very soon. In a first cruise attempt I
noted an IAS of 13O kts with 5OOO RPM and 24 Map.
Thank you Ivan for the dream, thank you Don for the beautiful wings.
Karel Vranken.
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I am just changing my finger brake setup from Jaymar to Matco and need
some aircraft hydraulic fluid to spec. Mil H-5606.
LAS don=92t seem to have anything under that description. Where can I
get
some?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
Gents
I'm looking at fitting a Fuel Computer to G-MFHI - I've got my eye on the
FF-3 from MGL but I've been advised that the flow transducer that they supply
would not be approved by the PFA. From what I've picked up, they are happy
with the Floscan 201 transducer.
Does anyone have any recomendations for any different (yet still reasonable
priced) fuel computer and if any other transducers are going to be acceptable
to the PFA. If the Flowscan is the way to go, is there an agent in the UK
or do I need to get one from the US. Any indication of the price for the
transdicer would be very helpful as well.
Regards
Peter
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Peter
Floscan transducers are used an cars and boats too, have a search for
another supplier, you don't need to pay for the coat of certification.
Grand Rapids can supply and their engine monitor is excellent anyway. It
includes flow monitoring and will nudge you if fuel pressure starts
getting low
Graham
peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
>
>Gents
>
>I'm looking at fitting a Fuel Computer to G-MFHI - I've got my eye on the
>FF-3 from MGL but I've been advised that the flow transducer that they supply
>would not be approved by the PFA. From what I've picked up, they are happy
>with the Floscan 201 transducer.
>
>
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Just been through this, Richard,
Mil H-5606 is the same spec as HF585B-LITRE which is available from
Light
Aero in 1 litre cans.
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard
Iddon
Sent: 01 November 2006 12:05
Subject: Europa-List: Brake fluid
I am just changing my finger brake setup from Jaymar to Matco and need
some
aircraft hydraulic fluid to spec. Mil H-5606.
LAS don=92t seem to have anything under that description. Where can I
get
some?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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Subject: | Re: pitot static lines |
Hi Paul,
Might be too simple..... why don't you pick up the phone and talk to Roger
at Europa, do it before 16.30 hrs, it could be with you tomorrow ?
Cheers,
Nev.
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Subject: | Re: First flight |
Congratulations Karel !
Can you do a little experiment for me ? I recon it is impossible to drink
through a straw for at least a week after First Flight, as you will surely still
have ''the Europa Grin ''?
Cheers,
Nev.
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Subject: | Re: pitot static lines |
Simple ideas always the best Nev.
Ta
Paul
On 1 Nov 2006, at 13:30, NevEyre@aol.com wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Might be too simple..... why don't you pick up the phone and talk
> to Roger at Europa, do it before 16.30 hrs, it could be with you
> tomorrow ?
> Cheers,
> Nev.
>
>
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Richard,
The Matco website says that Dot 5 is okay (if you have some left).
Secondly, check your kit of parts. Mine all matched with the parts list but
not the instructions. When I came to fit it I had 2x OR9's instead of
2xFL14's .
Simon
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Iddon
Sent: 01 November 2006 12:05
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Europa-List: Brake fluid
I am just changing my finger brake setup from Jaymar to Matco and need some
aircraft hydraulic fluid to spec. Mil H-5606.
LAS don't seem to have anything under that description. Where can I get
some?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS
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--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
Does it ever help to question why, with a completely
defined, well tested in hundreds of A/C, prop-engine combination,
an inspector would ask for such a datum.
Ira N224XS
FAA AME
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Subject: | Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Davies [mailto:brian.davies@clara.co.uk]
Sent: 01 November 2006 17:18
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
Peter,
The UK agents for Floscan are Merlin Equipment Tel 01202 697979. I have no
connection with the company- I have just ordered a Floscan 201 transducer
from them. Price 149.91 plus 5.80 UK postage +vat total 182.96. Not
cheap but the PFA like them! The contact is Vicky Baker and if you order
before Friday you will save the postage from the USA because she can combine
orders.
Brian Davies
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: 01 November 2006 12:20
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
--> Europa-List message posted by: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
Gents
I'm looking at fitting a Fuel Computer to G-MFHI - I've got my eye on the
FF-3 from MGL but I've been advised that the flow transducer that they
supply would not be approved by the PFA. From what I've picked up, they are
happy with the Floscan 201 transducer.
Does anyone have any recomendations for any different (yet still reasonable
priced) fuel computer and if any other transducers are going to be
acceptable to the PFA. If the Flowscan is the way to go, is there an agent
in the UK or do I need to get one from the US. Any indication of the price
for the transdicer would be very helpful as well.
Regards
Peter
___________________________________________________________
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http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/
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Subject: | Re: Re Prop Inertia |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
No such thing as a daft question, Ira.
The inertia (rotational) is important _a _because of the gyoscopic loads
on the prop shaft and _b_ the vibrational aspects, torsional resonance
etc. There are many different props out there, some not well know, home
built even. That's why the question is on the standard inspection form.
Graham
irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu wrote:
>--> Europa-List message posted by: irampil@notes.cc.sunysb.edu
>
>Does it ever help to question why, with a completely
>defined, well tested in hundreds of A/C, prop-engine combination,
>an inspector would ask for such a datum.
>
>Ira N224XS
>FAA AME
>
>
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Subject: | Rotax 912 Rocker shaft and rocker replacement SB??? |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Pete Jeffers" <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
Hi all,
A long time ago Rotax issued SB-912-15 which referred to a need to replace
rocker shafts and rockers at 600hrs, on some old engines. It allowed you to
inspect at 200 & 400hr but to replace at 600 hrs.
I had thought that some time later an amended instruction had been issued
that allowed the 200hrs checks to be continued ad infinitum requiring
replacement only if there was a problem.
Can anyone cast any light on the whereabouts of this later instruction (if
it exists)
Pete Jeffers
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Subject: | Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "nigel charles" <nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk>
When I bought mine about 8 years ago I collected from the wholesaler in
Seattle. It cost $162. Before you commit yourself to 182 you may like
to consider importing directly as the item is quite small and light for
airfreighting. I have an alternative suggestion as well. I am going to
Seattle on Wednesday and could collect for you assuming they have stock
available. Contact me direct at nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk if I can be of
assistance.
If any Europa builders/owners in the Seattle area would like to meet up
whilst I am in Seattle I will have Thursday and most of Friday free.
Regards
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Davies [mailto:brian.davies@clara.co.uk]
Sent: 01 November 2006 17:18
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
Peter,
The UK agents for Floscan are Merlin Equipment Tel 01202 697979. I have
no
connection with the company- I have just ordered a Floscan 201
transducer
from them. Price 149.91 plus 5.80 UK postage +vat total 182.96. Not
cheap but the PFA like them! The contact is Vicky Baker and if you
order
before Friday you will save the postage from the USA because she can
combine
orders.
Brian Davies
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: 01 November 2006 12:20
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
--> Europa-List message posted by: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
Gents
I'm looking at fitting a Fuel Computer to G-MFHI - I've got my eye on
the
FF-3 from MGL but I've been advised that the flow transducer that they
supply would not be approved by the PFA. From what I've picked up, they
are
happy with the Floscan 201 transducer.
Does anyone have any recomendations for any different (yet still
reasonable
priced) fuel computer and if any other transducers are going to be
acceptable to the PFA. If the Flowscan is the way to go, is there an
agent
in the UK or do I need to get one from the US. Any indication of the
price
for the transdicer would be very helpful as well.
Regards
Peter
___________________________________________________________
Tiscali Unlimited Broadband with FREE weekend calls only 12.99!
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v " <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
Hi Peter, sounds like a good offer from Nigel to collect the Transducer for you,
failing that here are the details of the UK agent , Lyndhurst Touchdown Services
Ltd
jerry@ban-bi.com www.ban-bi.com tel +44 (0)23 8028 2619
i paid a total UK cost of about 150 UK pounds all inc. for the 201,
Steve Vestuti #573
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "steve v " <s.vestuti@virgin.net>
Congratulations Karel !
What a feeling it must be, how long were you builing & how about uploading some
pictures ?
Steve Vestuti, #573 and Nev, is there a part No. for that straw?
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow transducer |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
That's cheap in comparison to a blocked sensor and fuel starvation, as
offered by the alternatives!
There is a prospectively 'cheap' Floscan currently at :
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=010&item 0040605291&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Duncan McF
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:19 PM
Subject: FW: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Davies [mailto:brian.davies@clara.co.uk]
> Sent: 01 November 2006 17:18
> To: 'europa-list@matronics.com'
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
>
> Peter,
>
> The UK agents for Floscan are Merlin Equipment Tel 01202 697979. I have
> no
> connection with the company- I have just ordered a Floscan 201 transducer
> from them. Price 149.91 plus 5.80 UK postage +vat total 182.96. Not
> cheap but the PFA like them! The contact is Vicky Baker and if you order
> before Friday you will save the postage from the USA because she can
> combine
> orders.
>
> Brian Davies
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
> Sent: 01 November 2006 12:20
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Fuel Flow transducer
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: peter.rees01@tiscali.co.uk
>
> Gents
>
> I'm looking at fitting a Fuel Computer to G-MFHI - I've got my eye on the
> FF-3 from MGL but I've been advised that the flow transducer that they
> supply would not be approved by the PFA. From what I've picked up, they
> are
> happy with the Floscan 201 transducer.
>
> Does anyone have any recomendations for any different (yet still
> reasonable
> priced) fuel computer and if any other transducers are going to be
> acceptable to the PFA. If the Flowscan is the way to go, is there an agent
> in the UK or do I need to get one from the US. Any indication of the price
> for the transdicer would be very helpful as well.
>
> Regards
>
> Peter
>
> ___________________________________________________________
>
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> http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/
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Subject: | RE: Help Required from our American Friends |
Hi Guys
The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished glider
wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful FAA. I
have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental aircraft
built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to completely
dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at least 51% of it.
Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way for me
to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be appreciated
as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
aircraft with me if at all possible.
Many Thanks
Alan
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Subject: | RE: Help Required from our American Friends |
--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER" <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
We're the Friendly Aviation Authority and we're here to help you!
>From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: RE: Help Required from our American Friends
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 22:37:02 -0000
>
>Hi Guys
>
>
>The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished glider
>wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful FAA. I
>have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental aircraft
>built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to completely
>dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at least 51% of
>it.
>Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way for
>me
>to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be appreciated
>as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
>aircraft with me if at all possible.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>
>Alan
>
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Subject: | RE: Help Required from our American Friends |
Alan,
The problems are even more complex, you must be a US national or a permanent
US resident to own an aircraft, at least that used to be the case a few
years ago.
If you are not a green card holder then one potential workaround is to
create an LLC whose asset is the aircraft and you own the LLC, but you would
need to get legal advice on this.
As far as your issue around putting your aircraft on the US register you
might like to try the EAA legal services, they were very helpful to
regarding a sales tax issue when I was registering my aircraft.
Paul (Who is not a US Citizen!)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 4:37 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: PROBABLE SPAM> Europa-List: RE: Help Required from our American
Friends
Hi Guys
The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished glider
wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful FAA. I
have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental aircraft
built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to completely
dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at least 51% of it.
Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way for me
to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be appreciated
as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
aircraft with me if at all possible.
Many Thanks
Alan
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Subject: | Re: RE: Help Required from our American Friends |
--> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
I would be careful about who you are getting these answers from.
Different FSDO offices are notorious for interpreting rules
differently. Ask them to cite the FAR where this requirement is spelled
out. Check the regs for yourself. They are all available online. If the
FAR is vague, call EAA or contact an office higher up the chain,
perhaps an office in Washington, DC.
I am not aware of any regulation that says the 51% must be performed
within the U.S. As far as I know, the only requirement is that the
aircraft must be inspected by a FAA authorized inspector. Does the fact
that your aircraft is already registered in a foreign country prevent
you from registering it in the U.S? I doubt it, but unless someone can
show you where it says you can't, you have to assume that you can.
--- Alan Burrows <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
>
>
> The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished
> glider
> wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful
> FAA. I
> have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental
> aircraft
> built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to
> completely
> dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at least 51%
> of it.
> Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way
> for me
> to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be
> appreciated
> as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
> aircraft with me if at all possible.
>
> Many Thanks
>
>
>
> Alan
>
>
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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On 11/1/06, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> --> Europa-List message posted by: Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I would be careful about who you are getting these answers from.
> Different FSDO offices are notorious for interpreting rules
> differently. Ask them to cite the FAR where this requirement is spelled
> out. Check the regs for yourself. They are all available online. If the
> FAR is vague, call EAA or contact an office higher up the chain,
> perhaps an office in Washington, DC.
>
> I am not aware of any regulation that says the 51% must be performed
> within the U.S. As far as I know, the only requirement is that the
> aircraft must be inspected by a FAA authorized inspector. Does the fact
> that your aircraft is already registered in a foreign country prevent
> you from registering it in the U.S? I doubt it, but unless someone can
> show you where it says you can't, you have to assume that you can.
>
>
> --- Alan Burrows <alan@kestrel-insurance.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys
> >
> >
> >
> > The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished
> > glider
> > wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful
> > FAA. I
> > have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental
> > aircraft
> > built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to
> > completely
> > dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at least 51%
> > of it.
> > Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way
> > for me
> > to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be
> > appreciated
> > as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
> > aircraft with me if at all possible.
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
>
>
> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
>
>
> Hi Alan
Something is screwy. There are lots of experimental aircraft that are built
in other countries and fly in the USA. In fact, Thomas (last name excapes
me) that flew around the world in his Europa is presently flying in
California and it was built in Germany! As Andrew said, check with another
FSDO. If you continue to have trouble, I will try to help by contacting
some here.
Tom Friedland, XS Mono, Washington State.
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Thomas Sherer would be a logical source of information regarding this
issue.
Thomas?
Fred
A194
On Wednesday, November 1, 2006, at 02:37 PM, Alan Burrows wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> -
>
> The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished
> glider wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your
> wonderful FAA. I have just been informed that they will not allow an
> experimental aircraft built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There
> suggestion was to completely dismantle the aircraft and have it
> rebuilt in America of at least 51% of it. Obviously this is a
> ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way for me to import the
> aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be appreciated as we
> plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to bring my
> aircraft with me if at all possible.
>
> Many Thanks
>
> -
>
> Alan
>
>
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--> Europa-List message posted by: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
This is complete BS. There is not a restriction to keep an aircraft
registered in an ICAO country from flying in US airspace. I remember
reading where a Europa was put on the boat on it's trailer, shipped to the
US hauled to an airport, assembled and it flew over here all summer.
They can't restrict an aircraft certified by another international approving
authority from flying in the US. If you were to fly here they can't stop
you. The same thing that they didn't question Thomas's trips around the
world in his US registered EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Same rule applies.
Steve
Give them hell
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 18:10
Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Help Required from our American Friends
--> Europa-List message posted by: "GLENN CROWDER"
--> <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
We're the Friendly Aviation Authority and we're here to help you!
>From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: RE: Help Required from our American Friends
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 22:37:02 -0000
>
>Hi Guys
>
>
>The grand plan to transport my trigear(complete with newly finished
>glider
>wings) to the U.S. have been dealt a severe blow by your wonderful FAA.
>I have just been informed that they will not allow an experimental
>aircraft built abroard to fly in U.S. airspace. There suggestion was to
>completely dismantle the aircraft and have it rebuilt in America of at
>least 51% of it.
>Obviously this is a ridiculous suggestion. Surely there must be a way
>for me to import the aircraft? All suggestions and assistance would be
>appreciated as we plan to move to Florida for the winters and I want to
>bring my aircraft with me if at all possible.
>
>Many Thanks
>
>
>Alan
>
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THE FAA CAN BE VERY ANAL,TRY ANOTHER FSDO.
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