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1. 02:36 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Hans J. Danielsen)
2. 04:20 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 (creighton smith)
3. 06:53 AM - Unsubscribing (Paul McAllister)
4. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Niels Kock)
5. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Steve Hagar)
6. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (tony.bale@virgin.net)
7. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 (Karl Heindl)
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Subject: | Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller |
Hi Steve,
Good to hear your mono behaves "normal" - in contrast to all the horror
stories I've heard and read. An interesting question in this respect:
How long are your outrigger legs? Do they touch the ground simultaniously
with the main?, i.e. are all four whells touching ground at the same time?
I seem to remember someone refering to the ground handling of his mono as a
non-event - due to outriggers beeing longer than specified, was that you?
Mine are 6mm longer each side, but still a small wagging is noticeable.Maybe
I should go for longer lengs before flight-testing. I expect that to happen
in the spring.
Congrats with your finished and flying Europa!
Cheers
Hans # 334
----- Original Message -----
From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:58 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
>
> Steve,
> It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still
> working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over to
> a
> trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and
> see
> then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind;
> How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa?
> Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also
> being a tail dragger?
> Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours?
> Thanks for the help and encouragement.
> Troy Maynor
> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
> Left to finish:
> Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
> Weaverville, NC USA
>
>
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US
> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
>
> Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half
> hours
> and
> burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a
> non-event.
> Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events.
> Concentration
> on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only
> one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only require
> giving
> it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment
> back
> pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true
> with
> plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from
> falling
> off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been
> going
> down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the
> bottom
> of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage
> bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through
> the
> flap slots this is in position to suck it right out
> again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are 2
> scoops
> under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It
> was
> real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The
> scoop
> is pretty unobtrusive under there.
>
> Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used
> is
> breaking
> down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and
> multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing.
> Kuntzleman
> has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the
> wing.
> The Airmaster controller is no regulating the
> propellor
> in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The
> fuse
> at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight
> and
> secure.
> The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with
> this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the book?
> Do
> all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone
> know
> of any US service reps?
>
> Steve Hagar
> A143
> N40SH
> Mesa AZ
>
>
> Steve Hagar
> hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 |
Well, yes, we have a Classic which has closed but not finished wings.
We acquired A036 a month or so ago. Just in time for the Vermont winter
to set in.
I swear, is the TSA handling the distribution of Epibond 420 in the US?
Creighton Smith
>
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Hi all,
Due to a significant personal event I will be unsubscribing from the this
list for a few weeks. If you need to contact me please use my email address
of paul.mcallister@qia.net
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Subject: | Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller |
Hi Hans and Troy and others waiting for the Mono-baptism.
Believe me: don't waste one minute worrying about the lenght of the spindly
outrigger legs. As long as they
are according to the builder's manual it doesn't matter one bit whether both
weels are resting on the ground
or are a couple of cm above the dirt. As soon as you apply power and are
accellerating down the runway,
concentrating on keeping straight the airflow will stabilize the wings, and
you won't notice that your under-
carriage is a little different from those with dangling airbrakes
permanently locked in the dwn. position.
And once safely airborne you will enjoy the feeling of acceleration when you
retract flaps and wheels.
As many Mono-owners have probably mentioned before in these pages even the
first landing is a thing to
look forward to and not to dread. Why? Because you will most likely be more
concentrated than ever before
which is definitely a helpful thing in that situation. Again, the
outrigger-wheel configuration is NOT a problem
as long as you tap-dance your rudder-pedals eagerly, keeping the little
beauty straight.
There is even a very good chance that your first landing in your very own
Europa will be one of the best
you have made, very likely better than many of the subsequent ones.
How do I know this? Because that is exactly what happened to me one glorious
day July 12 .1999.
Will it ever ground-loop? Not neccessarily if that initial level of
concentration is present during each and
every landing that marvellous little thing.
I shall not boast that I have never groundlooped. I have, once, because I
allowed myself to relax after a memorable,
but successful landing. It happened about 3 years ago when I arrived home
from a PFA rally at Kemble.
The wind was gusting to 40 Kts around the Airport (Odense, DK), and finals
were bumpy, to put it mildly, but
all went well. Until I, wery content with myself, crossed the apron 90
degrees to the gale, taxying a trifle fast, I
must confess, the hangar 200 meters away beckoning. One of the 40 knotters
noticed my smugness and slammed
the tail of my poor ODA, swinging her round, dipping her nose and smashing
her propeller.
It could have been avoided with more contration! And it had nothing to do
with landing the mono.
So, enjoy.
Niels Kock
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hans J. Danielsen" <hansjd@online.no>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Good to hear your mono behaves "normal" - in contrast to all the horror
> stories I've heard and read. An interesting question in this respect:
>
> How long are your outrigger legs? Do they touch the ground simultaniously
> with the main?, i.e. are all four whells touching ground at the same time?
>
> I seem to remember someone refering to the ground handling of his mono as
> a non-event - due to outriggers beeing longer than specified, was that
> you?
>
> Mine are 6mm longer each side, but still a small wagging is
> noticeable.Maybe I should go for longer lengs before flight-testing. I
> expect that to happen in the spring.
>
> Congrats with your finished and flying Europa!
>
> Cheers
> Hans # 334
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:58 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
>
>
>>
>> Steve,
>> It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still
>> working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over
>> to a
>> trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and
>> see
>> then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind;
>> How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa?
>> Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also
>> being a tail dragger?
>> Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours?
>> Thanks for the help and encouragement.
>> Troy Maynor
>> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
>> Left to finish:
>> Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
>> Weaverville, NC USA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US
>> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
>> Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
>>
>> Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half
>> hours
>> and
>> burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a
>> non-event.
>> Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events.
>> Concentration
>> on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only
>> one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only
>> require
>> giving
>> it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment
>> back
>> pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true
>> with
>> plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from
>> falling
>> off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been
>> going
>> down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the
>> bottom
>> of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage
>> bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through
>> the
>> flap slots this is in position to suck it right out
>> again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are
>> 2
>> scoops
>> under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It
>> was
>> real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The
>> scoop
>> is pretty unobtrusive under there.
>>
>> Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used
>> is
>> breaking
>> down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and
>> multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing.
>> Kuntzleman
>> has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the
>> wing.
>> The Airmaster controller is no regulating the
>> propellor
>> in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The
>> fuse
>> at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight
>> and
>> secure.
>> The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with
>> this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the
>> book?
>> Do
>> all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone
>> know
>> of any US service reps?
>>
>> Steve Hagar
>> A143
>> N40SH
>> Mesa AZ
>>
>>
>> Steve Hagar
>> hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller |
My outriggers are slightly short and do not both touch the same time. The
trick is to ignore any rocking from side to side and just keep it straight
with the rudder. To date I do not even find myself consiously trying to
correct for rocking with the ailerons at least on the ground anyway. If
you are straight and have the ground speed the plane just jumps off of the
ground with just a tiny release of back pressure. If I have a cross wind
present I give in a little pre load and keep the upwind wing down.
Aileron fine tuning really comes in as soon as you leave the ground where
your're not bumping outriggers.
Steve
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net
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Subject: | Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller |
Troy,
Stick with the Mono. I had 500 hours on spam cans - so hardly well
experienced. With less than 4 hours on a PFA course I was signed off.
Respect the aircraft, don't stop flying it till its in the hanger, and
don't push the crosswinds - less from the left!
Our test pilot told us - while you're on the ground if your feet aren't
moving - you've lost control, so hide you're wallet.
Our outriggers touch when she's on the ground, no idea if it makes any
difference.
We had no problems with insurance and there are 3 other Europa's at our
strip all Mono's.
And one last thing - watch all the gizzmo's - weight goes on exponentially
!!
Keep smiling (and sanding)
Tony.
ps still havn't installed the Airmaster, its in the garage - but can't wait.
Original Message:
-----------------
From: Troy Maynor wingnut54@charter.net
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
Steve,
It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still
working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over to a
trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and see
then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind;
How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa?
Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also
being a tail dragger?
Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours?
Thanks for the help and encouragement.
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,interior,engine install, wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US
From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half hours
and
burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a
non-event.
Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events.
Concentration
on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only
one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only require
giving
it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment back
pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true with
plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from falling
off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been
going
down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the
bottom
of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage
bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through the
flap slots this is in position to suck it right out
again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are 2
scoops
under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It was
real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The scoop
is pretty unobtrusive under there.
Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used is
breaking
down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and
multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing.
Kuntzleman
has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the
wing.
The Airmaster controller is no regulating the
propellor
in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The
fuse
at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight and
secure.
The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with
this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the book?
Do
all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone
know
of any US service reps?
Steve Hagar
A143
N40SH
Mesa AZ
Steve Hagar
hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 |
Creighton,
Whereabouts in Vermont are you ? I am not far in Eastern Ontario,
Karl
>From: creighton smith <crouton@well.com>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06
>Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:19:22 -0500
>
>
>
>Well, yes, we have a Classic which has closed but not finished wings. We
>acquired A036 a month or so ago. Just in time for the Vermont winter to
>set in.
>I swear, is the TSA handling the distribution of Epibond 420 in the US?
>Creighton Smith
>>
>
>
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