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     1. 02:36 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Hans J. Danielsen)
     2. 04:20 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 (creighton smith)
     3. 06:53 AM - Unsubscribing (Paul McAllister)
     4. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Niels Kock)
     5. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (Steve Hagar)
     6. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller (tony.bale@virgin.net)
     7. 03:17 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 (Karl Heindl)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:36:38 AM PST US
    From: "Hans J. Danielsen" <hansjd@online.no>
    Subject: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
    Hi Steve, Good to hear your mono behaves "normal" - in contrast to all the horror stories I've heard and read. An interesting question in this respect: How long are your outrigger legs? Do they touch the ground simultaniously with the main?, i.e. are all four whells touching ground at the same time? I seem to remember someone refering to the ground handling of his mono as a non-event - due to outriggers beeing longer than specified, was that you? Mine are 6mm longer each side, but still a small wagging is noticeable.Maybe I should go for longer lengs before flight-testing. I expect that to happen in the spring. Congrats with your finished and flying Europa! Cheers Hans # 334 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:58 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller > > Steve, > It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still > working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over to > a > trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and > see > then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind; > How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa? > Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also > being a tail dragger? > Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours? > Thanks for the help and encouragement. > Troy Maynor > N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic > Left to finish: > Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. > Weaverville, NC USA > > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US > From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> > Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller > > Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half > hours > and > burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a > non-event. > Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events. > Concentration > on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only > one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only require > giving > it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment > back > pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true > with > plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from > falling > off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been > going > down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the > bottom > of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage > bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through > the > flap slots this is in position to suck it right out > again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are 2 > scoops > under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It > was > real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The > scoop > is pretty unobtrusive under there. > > Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used > is > breaking > down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and > multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing. > Kuntzleman > has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the > wing. > The Airmaster controller is no regulating the > propellor > in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The > fuse > at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight > and > secure. > The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with > this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the book? > Do > all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone > know > of any US service reps? > > Steve Hagar > A143 > N40SH > Mesa AZ > > > Steve Hagar > hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > >


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    Time: 04:20:35 AM PST US
    From: creighton smith <crouton@well.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06
    Well, yes, we have a Classic which has closed but not finished wings. We acquired A036 a month or so ago. Just in time for the Vermont winter to set in. I swear, is the TSA handling the distribution of Epibond 420 in the US? Creighton Smith >


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    Time: 06:53:00 AM PST US
    From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
    Subject: Unsubscribing
    Hi all, Due to a significant personal event I will be unsubscribing from the this list for a few weeks. If you need to contact me please use my email address of paul.mcallister@qia.net


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    Time: 08:57:16 AM PST US
    From: "Niels Kock" <nielskock@get2net.dk>
    Subject: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
    Hi Hans and Troy and others waiting for the Mono-baptism. Believe me: don't waste one minute worrying about the lenght of the spindly outrigger legs. As long as they are according to the builder's manual it doesn't matter one bit whether both weels are resting on the ground or are a couple of cm above the dirt. As soon as you apply power and are accellerating down the runway, concentrating on keeping straight the airflow will stabilize the wings, and you won't notice that your under- carriage is a little different from those with dangling airbrakes permanently locked in the dwn. position. And once safely airborne you will enjoy the feeling of acceleration when you retract flaps and wheels. As many Mono-owners have probably mentioned before in these pages even the first landing is a thing to look forward to and not to dread. Why? Because you will most likely be more concentrated than ever before which is definitely a helpful thing in that situation. Again, the outrigger-wheel configuration is NOT a problem as long as you tap-dance your rudder-pedals eagerly, keeping the little beauty straight. There is even a very good chance that your first landing in your very own Europa will be one of the best you have made, very likely better than many of the subsequent ones. How do I know this? Because that is exactly what happened to me one glorious day July 12 .1999. Will it ever ground-loop? Not neccessarily if that initial level of concentration is present during each and every landing that marvellous little thing. I shall not boast that I have never groundlooped. I have, once, because I allowed myself to relax after a memorable, but successful landing. It happened about 3 years ago when I arrived home from a PFA rally at Kemble. The wind was gusting to 40 Kts around the Airport (Odense, DK), and finals were bumpy, to put it mildly, but all went well. Until I, wery content with myself, crossed the apron 90 degrees to the gale, taxying a trifle fast, I must confess, the hangar 200 meters away beckoning. One of the 40 knotters noticed my smugness and slammed the tail of my poor ODA, swinging her round, dipping her nose and smashing her propeller. It could have been avoided with more contration! And it had nothing to do with landing the mono. So, enjoy. Niels Kock ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans J. Danielsen" <hansjd@online.no> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:28 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller > > Hi Steve, > > Good to hear your mono behaves "normal" - in contrast to all the horror > stories I've heard and read. An interesting question in this respect: > > How long are your outrigger legs? Do they touch the ground simultaniously > with the main?, i.e. are all four whells touching ground at the same time? > > I seem to remember someone refering to the ground handling of his mono as > a non-event - due to outriggers beeing longer than specified, was that > you? > > Mine are 6mm longer each side, but still a small wagging is > noticeable.Maybe I should go for longer lengs before flight-testing. I > expect that to happen in the spring. > > Congrats with your finished and flying Europa! > > Cheers > Hans # 334 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 4:58 AM > Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller > > >> >> Steve, >> It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still >> working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over >> to a >> trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and >> see >> then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind; >> How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa? >> Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also >> being a tail dragger? >> Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours? >> Thanks for the help and encouragement. >> Troy Maynor >> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic >> Left to finish: >> Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. >> Weaverville, NC USA >> >> >> >> >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US >> From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller >> >> Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half >> hours >> and >> burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a >> non-event. >> Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events. >> Concentration >> on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only >> one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only >> require >> giving >> it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment >> back >> pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true >> with >> plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from >> falling >> off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been >> going >> down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the >> bottom >> of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage >> bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through >> the >> flap slots this is in position to suck it right out >> again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are >> 2 >> scoops >> under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It >> was >> real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The >> scoop >> is pretty unobtrusive under there. >> >> Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used >> is >> breaking >> down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and >> multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing. >> Kuntzleman >> has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the >> wing. >> The Airmaster controller is no regulating the >> propellor >> in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The >> fuse >> at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight >> and >> secure. >> The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with >> this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the >> book? >> Do >> all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone >> know >> of any US service reps? >> >> Steve Hagar >> A143 >> N40SH >> Mesa AZ >> >> >> Steve Hagar >> hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at f 1853 spam-mails Betalende brugere fr ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent en gratis SPAMfighter her.


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    Time: 11:09:22 AM PST US
    From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
    My outriggers are slightly short and do not both touch the same time. The trick is to ignore any rocking from side to side and just keep it straight with the rudder. To date I do not even find myself consiously trying to correct for rocking with the ailerons at least on the ground anyway. If you are straight and have the ground speed the plane just jumps off of the ground with just a tiny release of back pressure. If I have a cross wind present I give in a little pre load and keep the upwind wing down. Aileron fine tuning really comes in as soon as you leave the ground where your're not bumping outriggers. Steve Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net


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    Time: 03:15:33 PM PST US
    From: "tony.bale@virgin.net" <tony.bale@virgin.net>
    Subject: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller
    Troy, Stick with the Mono. I had 500 hours on spam cans - so hardly well experienced. With less than 4 hours on a PFA course I was signed off. Respect the aircraft, don't stop flying it till its in the hanger, and don't push the crosswinds - less from the left! Our test pilot told us - while you're on the ground if your feet aren't moving - you've lost control, so hide you're wallet. Our outriggers touch when she's on the ground, no idea if it makes any difference. We had no problems with insurance and there are 3 other Europa's at our strip all Mono's. And one last thing - watch all the gizzmo's - weight goes on exponentially !! Keep smiling (and sanding) Tony. ps still havn't installed the Airmaster, its in the garage - but can't wait. Original Message: ----------------- From: Troy Maynor wingnut54@charter.net Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flight testing and Airmaster controller Steve, It is always encouraging to read of sucess with the monowheel. I am still working on mine when I can and have been tempted to try and change over to a trike gear even though the extra time and cost. I will fly as a mono and see then. I had some questions for you if you don't mind; How much tail dragger time did you have before the Europa? Did your insurance cost more because of the retractable gear and it also being a tail dragger? Did you get Europa specific training before you flew yours? Thanks for the help and encouragement. Troy Maynor N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic Left to finish: Paint,interior,engine install, wiring. Weaverville, NC USA <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Time: 12:09:17 PM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" <hagargs@earthlink.net> Subject: Europa-List: Flight testing and Airmaster controller Twenty hours are on the plane now. Was out yesterday for 2 and a half hours and burned 9.1 gallons of gas. Landings in the mon-wheel are becomming a non-event. Eight T&g's and 1 full stop resulted in no hair raising events. Concentration on the task at hand was all that was required. Now flying with only one aboard results in very impressive performance. Take offs only require giving it the gas and keeping it straight. It leaps off the ground the moment back pressure is taken off of the stick. Clean stalls are straight and true with plenty of warning. Dirty stalls require some footwork to keep from falling off on a wing. No worse than a 152 I had been in. CO levels have been going down with each minor mod. Latest mod: I removed the access door on the bottom of the fuselage for the gascolator and sump drains under the rear baggage bay. This was replaced by a reverse scoop. If CO is coming in through the flap slots this is in position to suck it right out again. Did this after flyling with Bob Lindsay in a Liberty. There are 2 scoops under the Liberty fuselage right about where my gascolator door is. It was real convenient to do this already having a hole under my plane. The scoop is pretty unobtrusive under there. Squawks: Still need to fix my right strobe, think the cheap wire I used is breaking down under the high voltage. Strobe light and power supply is good, and multimeter shows continuity to the wing tip, though no strobe flashing. Kuntzleman has a wingtip strobe light harness I am planning to pull through the wing. The Airmaster controller is no regulating the propellor in automatic mode. Manual switch works fine at controlling pitch. The fuse at the back side of the controller was reset. All wiring appears tight and secure. The slip ring contacts and wiring looks good. Has any one dealt with this? Are there any other bench test other than those noted in the book? Do all of these things have to be sent to NZ to be checked out? Does anyone know of any US service reps? Steve Hagar A143 N40SH Mesa AZ Steve Hagar hagargs@earthlink.net >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .


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    Time: 03:17:57 PM PST US
    From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06
    Creighton, Whereabouts in Vermont are you ? I am not far in Eastern Ontario, Karl >From: creighton smith <crouton@well.com> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 11/24/06 >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:19:22 -0500 > > > >Well, yes, we have a Classic which has closed but not finished wings. We >acquired A036 a month or so ago. Just in time for the Vermont winter to >set in. >I swear, is the TSA handling the distribution of Epibond 420 in the US? >Creighton Smith >> > > _________________________________________________________________ The new Windows Live Toolbar helps you guard against viruses http://toolbar.live.com/?mkt=en-gb




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