---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/28/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:41 AM - Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle) 1. 02:44 AM - Palm sanders (Mike Gamble) 2. 04:51 AM - Re: Palm sanders (Steve Pitt) 3. 11:39 AM - Open canopy (CHUCK RHOADS) 4. 12:22 PM - Re: Open canopy (JEFF ROBERTS) 5. 01:09 PM - Re: Open canopy (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com) 6. 03:46 PM - canopy open (Graham Singleton) 7. 07:34 PM - First Flight (AlStills) 8. 07:43 PM - Re: First Flight (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 9. 08:05 PM - Re: First Flight (AlStills) 10. 08:17 PM - Re: First Flight (JEFF ROBERTS) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:08 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during this period. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. 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Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:18 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: Palm sanders Seeking recommendations for the most useful palm sander to use for sanding the various filled bits prior to painting, I see belt, orbital, random orbital, detail sanders with circular, triangular, rectangular and square bases. Help. Mike Gamble XS mono 440 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:36 AM PST US From: "Steve Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Palm sanders Dear Mike I used a small orbital palm sander from B&Q and this seemed to do the trick. Be careful that you do not dig into the surface with any sander you use or it will ruin your day. I think I used the sander for cutting back the main filling but then hand sanded after that. It gave more control and a better feel for the finish - car sprayers use electric tools but then they are experienced with what they are doing. I am still waiting for my Permit which is why I am still grounded. Very frustrating. Regards Steve ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:56 AM PST US From: CHUCK RHOADS Subject: Europa-List: Open canopy __________________________________________________________=0A=0A50/50 Fift y feet in the air and 50 feet of runway left, OK; however, not good when th e canopy comes open.=0A =0AThanksgiving day was beautiful and I had not bee n home for 2 weeks so I decided to go flying. The temperature was the cold est that I had flown my plane, 40's in the hanger. The door/canopy did not close quite normal which I attribute to the temp change. After two touch & goes all looked great until the door came open. First I thought that I w as a "has been", but I noticed that the plane was still controllable and th at the canopy was still intact. After reminding myself several times FLY T HE PLANE, I was able to use my left hand to hold the canopy shut. About th at time I remembered that there was a 20-30 story Holiday Inn just ahead of me now that I was off course, so stress got to be a little high. Downwind went fairly normally; however, the landing became interesting because I ha d never used my right hand on the controls and thus there was no easy to co ntrol throttle, trim, etc. The landing actually turned out to be pretty go od, that may be relative because I have had many that were not pretty.=0A =0AOn another note, my Geo Metro engine is working great and the engine computer greatly simplifies the engine mana gement. In cases like that above simplicity can contribute to safety.=0A =0AChuck Rhoads A100=0AN246CR Trike=0A=0A=0A =0A_________________________ ___________________________________________________________=0ACheap talk? yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:03 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Open canopy Congratulations on getting her home Chuck! You are to be commended for handling the situation as you did. What made the door open? Keep us informed of the situation. Thanks, Jeff N128LJ Gold Rush On Nov 28, 2006, at 1:38 PM, CHUCK RHOADS wrote: > > - > __________________________________________________________ > 50/50- Fifty feet in the air and 50 feet of runway left, OK; however, > not good when the canopy comes open. > - > Thanksgiving day was beautiful and I had not been home for 2 weeks so > I decided to go flying.- The temperature was the coldest that I had > flown my plane, 40's in the hanger.- The door/canopy did not close > quite normal which I attribute to the temp change.- After two touch & > goes all looked great until the door came open.- First I thought that > I was a "has been", but I noticed that the plane was still > controllable and that the canopy was still intact.- After reminding > myself several times FLY THE PLANE, I was able to use my left hand > to-hold-the canopy shut.- About that time I remembered that there was > a 20-30 story Holiday Inn just ahead of me now that I was off course, > so stress got to be a little high.- Downwind went fairly normally; > however, the landing became interesting because I had never used my > right hand on the controls and thus there was no easy to control > throttle, trim, etc.- The landing actually turned out to be pretty > good, that may be relative because I have had many that were not > pretty. > - > On another note, my Geo Metro engine is working great and the engine > computer greatly simplifies the engine management.- In cases like that > above simplicity can contribute to safety. > - > Chuck Rhoads- A100 > N246CR- Trike > &nb="http://pa.yahoo.com/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=36035/*http:// > music.y > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:05 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Open canopy From: Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com Chuck, Thanks given that you and the plane are OK. It's possible for the rear shoot bolt to miss the guide, giving the doors a push when latched will show if anything is amiss. How about updating the list on the engine capacity, fuel burn and cruise perfomance of the Geo engine ? Dave C-FBZI. Only 35 hours, but finally all the paperwork OK'd by transport Canada, so I can go places next year. Now bringing it into a heated hangar with a list of things to fix or improve ! ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:20 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Europa-List: canopy open Chuck glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-) We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling us. When my engine boiled on take off, then a hose burst, then the engine swallowed glycol but unfortunately didn't stop, then? I've no idea but the trim was badly nose high, (I checked the wreck a few weeks later, we had a stick top trim button and I guess I nudged it accidentally) so I must have been pushing hard, glycol on windscreen, not enough power with trees and barn to avoid, I can only assume My gyro toppled. Then the power came back suddenly and I guess the extra torque tripped the left wing, (inside of turn) and in we went from 100 feet or so. At least it didn't hurt, till later. I have no memory of the accident but it tool me 6 weeks to get out of hospital, fortunately most of what they screwed back on works. They were good those guys but I was lucky. They were doing a trial at the hospital that day, put as many surgeons as necessary on the case at once, I think they said 7 guys worked on me at once. IT WORKED but I don't think it worked for the bean counters. I really should go back to the hospital and chase them up on their conclusions to that successful experiment. One very successful British NHS story. I do find it difficult to respect beancounters. Our western education system still hasn't learnt what the real values are. Maybe we should blame the bean counters for global warming ;-) Graham pholosoffing again, sorry ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:34:28 PM PST US From: "AlStills" Subject: Europa-List: First Flight A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At 10:34 AM local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of Bob Lindsay. First take off was approx 500 ft, climb was normal. Bob took the plane to 3500 ft over the airport and flew for 45 mins before landing to a highly excited builder. All flight was normal, the Jabiru engine ran flawlessly. The plane flew straight and level with no trim imputs at all. Stalls were straight and level with no bad tendencies. At 4:00 PM the plane flew for it's second flight of about 30 mins to expand the flight envelope a little with 60Deg bank and 2 G turns. All was normal and successful. Tomorrow I'll take up with Bob and fly myself for the first time. (If I can get any sleep tonight). Al Stills N625AZ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:49 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Congratulations Al, It must feel great having all that work behind you. Which landing gear did you go with? Do you have a weight for your bird? I am just starting to see how my Jab3300A fits onto mine with conventional gear. I would like to get mine airborne this summer but too many Honey-Do's keep getting in the way. Have fun flying off the 40 hours. Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:55 PM PST US From: "AlStills" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight Mike, N625AZ is a conventional tri gear. It weighs in at 953 lbs. The Jab 3300 ran perfictly, using a Jab 60X48 prop. Take off RPM was 2650. Quite a few mods installed. Looking foreward to tomorrow! Al Stills N625AZ -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:43 PM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Congratulations Al, It must feel great having all that work behind you. Which landing gear did you go with? Do you have a weight for your bird? I am just starting to see how my Jab3300A fits onto mine with conventional gear. I would like to get mine airborne this summer but too many Honey-Do's keep getting in the way. Have fun flying off the 40 hours. Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300A ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:35 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight Congrats Al! Now you will be finding out what a great plane you've been building all this time. I still get amazed how easy it flies and handles every time I take her up. Prepare to be impressed and smile a lot. Regards, Jeff A258 N128LJ / Gold Rush On Nov 28, 2006, at 9:32 PM, AlStills wrote: > > A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At > 10:34 AM > local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of > Bob Lindsay. First take off was approx 500 ft, climb was normal. Bob > took > the plane to 3500 ft over the airport and flew for 45 mins before > landing > to a highly excited builder. All flight was normal, the Jabiru engine > ran > flawlessly. The plane flew straight and level with no trim imputs at > all. > Stalls > were straight and level with no bad tendencies. > At 4:00 PM the plane flew for it's second flight of about 30 mins to > expand > the flight envelope a little with 60Deg bank and 2 G turns. All was > normal > and successful. Tomorrow I'll take up with Bob and fly myself for the > first > time. (If I can get any sleep tonight). > > Al Stills > N625AZ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.