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3. 09:45 AM - Re: canopy open (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
4. 09:55 AM - inactive account? (R.C.Harrison)
5. 10:08 AM - Re: canopy open (Graham Singleton)
6. 10:30 AM - Re: canopy open (JEFF ROBERTS)
7. 11:11 AM - Re: canopy open (Raimo Toivio)
8. 11:12 AM - Fw: canopy open (Raimo Toivio)
9. 11:39 AM - Re: inactive account? (Tom Friedland)
10. 12:09 PM - First flight (air.guerner@wanadoo.fr)
11. 12:40 PM - Re: canopy open (Mike Gregory)
12. 12:42 PM - Re: First Flight (karelvranken)
13. 02:19 PM - Ailerons - Classic manual (Fergus Kyle)
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17. 04:38 PM - Re: Palm sanders (Pete Jeffers)
18. 04:43 PM - Re: First Flight (Garry)
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Hi! Alan
Congratulations! I'm impressed to manage such long initial flights
without needing to tweek the cooling. Be sure to do the head re-torque
and valve reset (unless they are hydraulic) at no more than 5 hours,
then repeat every 5 hours to 25.
You obviously had much better back up with the combination than I did.
What were the ambient conditions?
Regards
BOB HARRISON G-PTAG (in process of changing to 914 Rotax)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AlStills
Sent: 29 November 2006 03:33
Subject: Europa-List: First Flight
A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At
10:34 AM
local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of
Bob Lindsay. First take off was approx 500 ft, climb was normal. Bob
took
the plane to 3500 ft over the airport and flew for 45 mins before
landing
to a highly excited builder. All flight was normal, the Jabiru engine
ran
flawlessly. The plane flew straight and level with no trim imputs at
all.
Stalls
were straight and level with no bad tendencies.
At 4:00 PM the plane flew for it's second flight of about 30 mins to
expand
the flight envelope a little with 60Deg bank and 2 G turns. All was
normal
and successful. Tomorrow I'll take up with Bob and fly myself for the
first
time. (If I can get any sleep tonight).
Al Stills
N625AZ
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Bob,
Ambient temps were approx 55 degs F for first flight and 65 degs F for
second flight. Jabiru has come a long ways since you started flying your
plane especially
in the cowl design from Andy Sylvester at Suncoast Sportplanes. Light winds
and broken overcast.
Al Stills
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of R.C.Harrison
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:02 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight
Hi! Alan
Congratulations! I'm impressed to manage such long initial flights
without needing to tweek the cooling. Be sure to do the head re-torque
and valve reset (unless they are hydraulic) at no more than 5 hours,
then repeat every 5 hours to 25.
You obviously had much better back up with the combination than I did.
What were the ambient conditions?
Regards
BOB HARRISON G-PTAG (in process of changing to 914 Rotax)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AlStills
Sent: 29 November 2006 03:33
Subject: Europa-List: First Flight
A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At
10:34 AM
local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of
Bob Lindsay. First take off was approx 500 ft, climb was normal. Bob
took
the plane to 3500 ft over the airport and flew for 45 mins before
landing
to a highly excited builder. All flight was normal, the Jabiru engine
ran
flawlessly. The plane flew straight and level with no trim imputs at
all.
Stalls
were straight and level with no bad tendencies.
At 4:00 PM the plane flew for it's second flight of about 30 mins to
expand
the flight envelope a little with 60Deg bank and 2 G turns. All was
normal
and successful. Tomorrow I'll take up with Bob and fly myself for the
first
time. (If I can get any sleep tonight).
Al Stills
N625AZ
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We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend. I Long Eze
went in about a half mile from the departure end of the runway. The pilot
is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25 years. He tried to hold the canopy
down and fly the airplane at the same time and it did not work very well.
The airplane was pretty much destroyed but he got out with some bruises and a
few broken bones. I think he is out of the hospital by now. The point for all
of us is:
CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Chuck
> glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-)
> We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling us.
> When my engine boiled on take off, then a hose burst, then the engine
> swallowed glycol but unfortunately didn't stop, then? I've no idea but
> the trim was badly nose high, (I checked the wreck a few weeks later,
> we had a stick top trim button and I guess I nudged it accidentally) so
> I must have been pushing hard, glycol on windscreen, not enough power
> with trees and barn to avoid, I can only assume My gyro toppled.
> Then the power came back suddenly and I guess the extra torque tripped
> the left wing, (inside of turn) and in we went from 100 feet or so. At
> least it didn't hurt, till later.
> I have no memory of the accident but it tool me 6 weeks to get out of
> hospital, fortunately most of what they screwed back on works. They were
> good those guys but I was lucky. They were doing a trial at the hospital
> that day, put as many surgeons as necessary on the case at once, I think
> they said 7 guys worked on me at once. IT WORKED but I don't think it
> worked for the bean counters.
> I really should go back to the hospital and chase them up on their
> conclusions to that successful experiment.
> One very successful British NHS story. I do find it difficult to respect
> beancounters. Our western education system still hasn't learnt what the
> real values are. Maybe we should blame the bean counters for global
> warming ;-)
> Graham
> pholosoffing again, sorry
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend.
I Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the runway.
The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25 years. He tried
to hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the same time and it did
not work very well. The airplane was pretty much destroyed but he got out
with some bruises and a few broken bones. I think he is out of the hospital by
now. The point for all of us is:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Graham Singleton
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> <BR><BR>> --> Europa-List message
posted by: Graham Singleton <BR>> <GRAHAMSINGLETON@BTINTERNET.COM><BR>>
<BR>> Chuck <BR>> glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-) <BR>>
We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling us. <BR>>
When my engine boiled on take off, then a hose burst, then the engine <BR>>
swallowed glycol but unfortunately didn't stop, then? I've no idea but
<BR>> the trim was badly nose high, (I checked the wreck a few weeks later,
<BR>> we had a stick top trim button and I guess I nudged it accidentally)
so <BR>> I must have been pushing hard, glycol on windscreen, not enough
power <BR>> with trees and barn to avoid, I can only assume My gyro toppled.
<BR>> Then the power came back suddenly and I gu
ess th
e extra torque tripped <BR>> the left wing, (inside of turn) and in we went
from 100 feet or so. At <BR>> least it didn't hurt, till later. <BR>> I
have no memory of the accident but it tool me 6 weeks to get out of <BR>> hospital,
fortunately most of what they screwed back on works. They were <BR>>
good those guys but I was lucky. They were doing a trial at the hospital <BR>>
that day, put as many surgeons as necessary on the case at once, I think
<BR>> they said 7 guys worked on me at once. IT WORKED but I don't think
it <BR>> worked for the bean counters. <BR>> I really should go back to
the hospital and chase them up on their <BR>> conclusions to that successful
experiment. <BR>> One very successful British NHS story. I do find it difficult
to respect <BR>> beancounters. Our western education system still hasn't
learnt what the <BR>> real values are. Maybe we should blame the bean
counters for global <BR>> warming ;-) <BR>> Gra
ham <B
The Eu
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Attention Dale Hetrick .?
Tried to e-mail you but responds account inactive?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Robt.C.Harrison
Do not archive.
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Jim
it wasn't a Long EZ it was a Vari Eze, trickier airplane and higher
landing speed.
Graham
jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend.
> I Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the
> runway. The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25
> years. He tried to hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the
> same time and it did not work very well. The airplane was pretty much
> destroyed but he got out with some bruises and a few broken bones. I
> think he is out of the hospital by now. The point for all of us is:
>
> CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
>
> Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
>
>
>**
>**
>
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Jim,
Here's an Idea. I had the local trophy shop make a small 2'' X 6 ''
plaque with the take off, landing, and cruise check list engraved in 3
columns. I placed it right at the top of the radio stack. It's black
with gold letters and it looks great! Cost was about $8.00. You cannot
punch the radio frequencies without looking at it. As you age you get
to know your misgivings and one of mine is if it's not written down...
I'll forget it!
Jeff
N128LJ Gold Rush
On Nov 29, 2006, at 11:44 AM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote:
> We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend.-
> I Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the
> runway.- The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25
> years.- He tried to hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the
> same time and it did not work very well.- The airplane was pretty
much
> destroyed but he got out with some bruises and a few broken bones.-
I
> think he is out of the hospital-by now.- The point-for all of us
is:
> -
> CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
> -
>>
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We had here in Finland about one year
ago a similar accident and it was fatal.
After that and many other similar stories I
decided to do something and added four
Honeywell micro switches - one for each
shooting bolt. All of them must be engaged
to get green lights, they are serial connected.
Also I decided to use pip-pins to secure doors
against unintentionally opening during flight.
There is also a label "remove pip pin before
landing" - that is for possible emergency exit.
Check an attachment.
Raimo
====
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417
OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk
OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines (grounded)
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: canopy open
We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend.
I Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the
runway. The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25 years.
He tried to hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the same time
and it did not work very well. The airplane was pretty much destroyed
but he got out with some bruises and a few broken bones. I think he is
out of the hospital by now. The point for all of us is:
CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Chuck
> glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-)
> We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling
us.
> When my engine boiled on take off, then a hose burst, then the
engine
> swallowed glycol but unfortunately didn't stop, then? I've no idea
but
> the trim was badly nose high, (I checked the wreck a few weeks
later,
> we had a stick top trim button and I guess I nudged it
accidentally) so
> I must have been pushing hard, glycol on windscreen, not enough
power
> with trees and barn to avoid, I can only assume My gyro toppled.
> Then the power came back suddenly and I gu ess th e extra torque
tripped
> the left wing, (inside of turn) and in we went from 100 feet or
so. At
> least it didn't hurt, till later.
> I have no memory of the accident but it tool me 6 weeks to get out
of
> hospital, fortunately most of what they screwed back on works.
They were
> good those guys but I was lucky. They were doing a trial at the
hospital
> that day, put as many surgeons as necessary on the case at once, I
think
> they said 7 guys worked on me at once. IT WORKED but I don't think
it
> worked for the bean counters.
> I really should go back to the hospital and chase them up on their
> conclusions to that successful experiment.
> One very successful British NHS story. I do find it difficult to
respect
> beancounters. Our western education system still hasn't learnt
what the
> real values are. Maybe we should blame the bean counters for
global
> warming ;-)
> Gra ham
===========
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We had here in Finland about one year
ago a similar accident and it was fatal.
After that and many other similar stories I
decided to do something and added four
Honeywell micro switches - one for each
shooting bolt. All of them must be engaged
to get green lights, they are serial connected.
Also I decided to use pip-pins to secure doors
against unintentionally opening during flight.
There is also a label "remove pip pin before
landing" - that is for possible emergency exit.
Check an attachment.
Raimo
====
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417
OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk
OH-BLL Beechcraft C45 w radial engines (grounded)
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: canopy open
We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend.
I Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the
runway. The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25 years.
He tried to hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the same time
and it did not work very well. The airplane was pretty much destroyed
but he got out with some bruises and a few broken bones. I think he is
out of the hospital by now. The point for all of us is:
CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Chuck
> glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-)
> We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling
us.
> When my engine boiled on take off, then a hose burst, then the
engine
> swallowed glycol but unfortunately didn't stop, then? I've no idea
but
> the trim was badly nose high, (I checked the wreck a few weeks
later,
> we had a stick top trim button and I guess I nudged it
accidentally) so
> I must have been pushing hard, glycol on windscreen, not enough
power
> with trees and barn to avoid, I can only assume My gyro toppled.
> Then the power came back suddenly and I gu ess th e extra torque
tripped
> the left wing, (inside of turn) and in we went from 100 feet or
so. At
> least it didn't hurt, till later.
> I have no memory of the accident but it tool me 6 weeks to get out
of
> hospital, fortunately most of what they screwed back on works.
They were
> good those guys but I was lucky. They were doing a trial at the
hospital
> that day, put as many surgeons as necessary on the case at once, I
think
> they said 7 guys worked on me at once. IT WORKED but I don't think
it
> worked for the bean counters.
> I really should go back to the hospital and chase them up on their
> conclusions to that successful experiment.
> One very successful British NHS story. I do find it difficult to
respect
> beancounters. Our western education system still hasn't learnt
what the
> real values are. Maybe we should blame the bean counters for
global
> warming ;-)
> Gra ham
===========
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Hi Bob
I have Dales email address as gdh@isp.com.
Phone is: 760 723 3076
Tom Friedland
On 11/29/06, R.C.Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Attention Dale Hetrick .?
>
>
> Tried to e-mail you but responds account inactive?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
>
> Robt.C.Harrison
>
>
> Do not archive.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Good job Al, congratulations; enjoy your own first flight in your Europa;
Best regards
Remi
F-PGKL
A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At 10:34 AM
local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of
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I quite agree that prevention is better than cure, and anything that people
do to pay attention to checklists/warning lights/checking security to ensure
that the canopy doors are properly locked before takeoff is to be welcomed.
I am not convinced of the desirability of having any additional one locking
mechanism to prevent opening in flight that might either prevent the
pilot/passenger or outside rescuers from opening the canopy in the event of
a crash landing. If, for example your engine failed on takeoff and you had
to make an immediate forced landing without being able to choose where and
without time to unlock the doors, you would not wish to jeopardise your
chances of survival further by being locked in.
Graham is right: you must FLY THE AEROPLANE. If, for whatever reason,
prevention has failed and a canopy door does unlatch in flight, then the
handling pilot should think very carefully before deciding to risk holding
onto the door if he is flying solo. Chuck Rhoads was fortunate to get away
with it ("the landing became interesting because I had never used my right
hand on the controls and thus there was no easy to control throttle, trim,
etc. The landing actually turned out to be pretty good..."). The Europa
will fly perfectly well after losing a door, and it may be far better to
have this happen and accept that there will be a relatively minor repair
than to risk the far more serious consequences of losing proper control, of
which we have been given vivid examples in previous messages.
Mike Gregory
Europa Club Safety Officer
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: 29 November 2006 19:15
Subject: Fw: Europa-List: canopy open
We had here in Finland about one year ago a similar accident and it was
fatal. After that and many other similar stories I decided to do something
and added four Honeywell micro switches - one for each shooting bolt. All of
them must be engaged to get green lights, they are serial connected.
Also I decided to use pip-pins to secure doors against unintentionally
opening during flight. There is also a label "remove pip pin before landing"
- that is for possible emergency exit.
Check an attachment.
Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: canopy open
We had an unlatched canopy incident here at Punta Gorda last weekend. I
Long Eze went in about a half mile from the departure end of the runway.
The pilot is 72 and has been flying the airplane for 25 years. He tried to
hold the canopy down and fly the airplane at the same time and it did not
work very well. The airplane was pretty much destroyed but he got out with
some bruises and a few broken bones. I think he is out of the hospital by
now. The point for all of us is:
CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST -- CHECKLIST
Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Chuck
> glad you had enough wits to FLY THE PLANE. :-)
> We can all learn from other peoples mishaps, thanks for telling us.
>snip<
> Gra ham
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Congratulations Al, now real fun starts and gives a happy feeling.
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: "AlStills" <astills@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:32 AM
Subject: Europa-List: First Flight
>
> A note to all that N625AZ flew for the first time Tues 11/28/06. At 10:34
> AM
> local from KGEU (Glendale Ariz) at the extermely capable hands of
> Bob Lindsay. First take off was approx 500 ft, climb was normal. Bob took
> the plane to 3500 ft over the airport and flew for 45 mins before landing
> to a highly excited builder. All flight was normal, the Jabiru engine ran
> flawlessly. The plane flew straight and level with no trim imputs at all.
> Stalls
> were straight and level with no bad tendencies.
> At 4:00 PM the plane flew for it's second flight of about 30 mins to
> expand
> the flight envelope a little with 60Deg bank and 2 G turns. All was normal
> and successful. Tomorrow I'll take up with Bob and fly myself for the
> first
> time. (If I can get any sleep tonight).
>
> Al Stills
> N625AZ
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Ailerons - Classic manual |
Cheers,
It`s re-assemble time for the wings aftrer finishing, and I`m trying
to attach the ailerons to the wing. Nowhere can I find the detailed sketch
of the attachment of aileron cross rod (with the endfitting) to the AN4 bolt
protruding from the aileron,
I presume it`s much like the others - EURO11 washer inside, then
endfitting, then EURO11 washer and MS41024-4 locknut to tighten.
But I don`t like to presume.
Could someone kindly point me to the proper diagram, as have
scuttled through several chapters without luck?
Ferg Kyle
Europa A064 914 Classic
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons - Classic manual |
Ferg,
It's on page 8-23, Figure 40 of the Classic manual. The figure appears to
be just for the bellcrank, but in the writeup it say to use for the aileron
end also.
Bill
A010 Monowheel Classic
Rotax 912ULS
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From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:18 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Ailerons - Classic manual
>
> Cheers,
> It`s re-assemble time for the wings aftrer finishing, and I`m
> trying
> to attach the ailerons to the wing. Nowhere can I find the detailed sketch
> of the attachment of aileron cross rod (with the endfitting) to the AN4
> bolt
> protruding from the aileron,
> I presume it`s much like the others - EURO11 washer inside, then
> endfitting, then EURO11 washer and MS41024-4 locknut to tighten.
> But I don`t like to presume.
> Could someone kindly point me to the proper diagram, as have
> scuttled through several chapters without luck?
>
> Ferg Kyle
> Europa A064 914 Classic
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Palm sanders |
Hi Mike,
I'd say don't use any thing that spins or rotates. Just a "jitterbug"
vibrating type. I used a DeWalt 1/4 sheet (square)sander. I've seen 1/2
sheet (rectangle) models that would probably work even better (faster).
Kevin
XS Mono 914
Mike Gamble wrote:
> Seeking recommendations for the most useful palm sander to use for
> sanding the various filled bits prior to painting,
> I see belt, orbital, random orbital, detail sanders with circular,
> triangular, rectangular and square bases.
> Help.
>
> Mike Gamble
> XS mono 440
>
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| Subject: | Re: Ailerons - Classic manual |
Hi Ferg,
Not got a Manual to hand..... but what you are describing is correct, there
should be one EUR001 washer embedded in the aileron root rib, the MW4 rod end
goes over the that, and a second EUR001 goes over that, with a stiffnut. If
needed to achieve clearence of the root rib closeout, a further washer can go
under the MW4 to space it out. Make sure that EUR001 washers are used, the
OD of those is larger than the AN960 series,and will prevent the rod end from
coming off, if the ball housing should fail [ ie, the OD of the EUR001 will
not pass through the ''eye'' of the rod end] I have picked that up on Final
Inspections, where builders have mistakenly used the smaller washers.
Cheers,
Nev.
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Hi Mike & Steve,
A WORD OF CAUTION
Just remember that most car sprayers will be working on steel sheet and when
you hit that with a sander it is not the same as hitting soft composite!
The surface area of a power sander is also very small and it will be very
difficult/impossible to produce flat surfaces or regular curved surfaces.
Hand sanding is better and much safer.
Pete J
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Pitt
Sent: 28 November 2006 12:50
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Palm sanders
Dear Mike
I used a small orbital palm sander from B&Q and this seemed to do the trick.
Be careful that you do not dig into the surface with any sander you use or
it will ruin your day.
I think I used the sander for cutting back the main filling but then hand
sanded after that. It gave more control and a better feel for the finish -
car sprayers use electric tools but then they are experienced with what they
are doing.
I am still waiting for my Permit which is why I am still grounded. Very
frustrating.
Regards
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Bob Harrison wrote................
" Be sure to do the head re-torque
> and valve reset (unless they are hydraulic) at no more than 5 hours,
> then repeat every 5 hours to 25.
I would like to remind all Rotax drivers to periodically check the torque on
the head bolts of their engines. This past weekend I sprang a major
in-flight oil leak necessitating an emergency landing. Oil was gushing from
between the head and the cylinder. Upon landing I checked the head bolts on
that cylinder and found two of the four to be less than finger loose. After
tightening them up, I checked all the other cylinders too, and found 3 of
the remaining 12 bolts to be slightly loose. All should be torqued to 200
inch pounds. For reference purposes, my 914 engine is 7 year old with
almost 500 hours on it.........and I never checked the head bolt torque
before.
Garry Stout
N4220S A060 TriGear
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| Subject: | Ailerons - Classic manual |
Hi! Ferg
I have chapter 8 Page 7 for the sectional view of the bolt AN4-10 then
CH8-22 for the Aileron Link- Rod.
Compliments of the season to you and yours.
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
Sent: 29 November 2006 22:19
Subject: Europa-List: Ailerons - Classic manual
Cheers,
It`s re-assemble time for the wings aftrer finishing, and I`m
trying
to attach the ailerons to the wing. Nowhere can I find the detailed
sketch
of the attachment of aileron cross rod (with the endfitting) to the AN4
bolt
protruding from the aileron,
I presume it`s much like the others - EURO11 washer inside, then
endfitting, then EURO11 washer and MS41024-4 locknut to tighten.
But I don`t like to presume.
Could someone kindly point me to the proper diagram, as have
scuttled through several chapters without luck?
Ferg Kyle
Europa A064 914 Classic
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Thanks for the "heads up" on this Garry.
I hope the Rotax heads are not prone to warping too !
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
Robt.C.Harrison
Do not archive.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garry
Sent: 30 November 2006 00:43
Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight
Bob Harrison wrote................
" Be sure to do the head re-torque
> and valve reset (unless they are hydraulic) at no more than 5 hours,
> then repeat every 5 hours to 25.
I would like to remind all Rotax drivers to periodically check the
torque on
the head bolts of their engines. This past weekend I sprang a major
in-flight oil leak necessitating an emergency landing. Oil was gushing
from
between the head and the cylinder. Upon landing I checked the head
bolts on
that cylinder and found two of the four to be less than finger loose.
After
tightening them up, I checked all the other cylinders too, and found 3
of
the remaining 12 bolts to be slightly loose. All should be torqued to
200
inch pounds. For reference purposes, my 914 engine is 7 year old with
almost 500 hours on it.........and I never checked the head bolt torque
before.
Garry Stout
N4220S A060 TriGear
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