---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/11/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:19 AM - Re: avionics cut outs (G-IANI) 2. 02:19 AM - Re: Fw: DOTH to Tatenhill tomorrow 9th December + Exhaust (rick) 3. 10:19 AM - Re: avionics cut outs () 4. 02:32 PM - Europa Club Annual Dinner (T Houlihan) 5. 06:52 PM - Re: avionics cut outs (Steve Hagar) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:49 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: avionics cut outs All this talk of water jet and laser cutting is OK but you have to have the service handy and it takes days by the time you have delivered and collected. Drawing what you need in CAD first is a good idea and can help spot the mistakes. If you have the CAD drawing, and the service available then by all means use it. I am surprised that so many people seem reluctant to hand cut metal. The following works just as well:- Protect the surface with masking tape. Mark the cut-out you need. Drill one (or more) holes to allow jig saw blade through. With variable speed jig saw, and the correct blade, you can carefully saw round the shape in two minutes. Clean this up with a half round file (or drum sander) and the job is done. Does anyone have a use for a number of (just under) instrument size aluminium disks? Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:49 AM PST US From: "rick" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: DOTH to Tatenhill tomorrow 9th December + Exhaust Hi William I wanted to come to Tattenhall on Saturday but the mighty Spurs were playing at home in the afternoon! I hope you had a good time. G-RIKS is grounded for a few days with the port front exhaust pipe having detached itself from the welded manifold plate. Worth checking as it only appears to have been welded for about 25% of it's circumference. All the best Rick G-RIKS 912s Tri _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Mills Sent: 08 December 2006 20:33 Subject: Europa-List: Fw: DOTH to Tatenhill tomorrow 9th December P. S. Paddy has just reminded me that there is only very basic catering at Tatenhill, so it might be prudent to bring a sandwich with you. Tea, coffee and drinks are available, I seem to remember. William ----- Original Message ----- From: William Mills Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: DOTH to Tatenhill tomorrow 9th December As there is a short break in this awful weather, I thought it might be nice to have a DOTH to Tatenhill tomorrow, Saturday 9th December about 12 noon. Freebie landing voucher in "Pilot". I am hoping that my strip will be usable, but in the unlikely event that it is not, please forgive me if I do not make it. Best wishes, William ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:19:07 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: avionics cut outs From: Hello Ian I agree that traditional machining of panel is a viable means of accomplishment. Once laid out, a flycutter works great. I takes just a bit of diddling to get size correct, but once it is, do all those hole sizes. If you are not doing all at once, flycutters are fair cheap, just buy 1 for each size and don't bother adjusting. We got our panel cut first try on both, I tried to attach a pic. We laid out entire panel with full sized copies of instruments to make sure all fits as a first pass, then machined the trouble spots first which dictated where the remainder will be placed. "anyone have a use for a number of (just under) instrument size aluminium disks?" Yes a toy for kids of all ages, for younger kids blunt sharp edges and glue string in center of hole, a good alternative for button / accordion /spinner. You can polish to a high luster if you wish, or chuck up a #2 pencil and make some Spirit of Saint Lewis swirls with the eraser. Good test pieces for a try at 3 BID Epoxy layup compared to a 1 BID Redux with peel ply and 2 subsequent BID Epoxy If you make a pyramid out of them all progressively smaller, you could make the 3 pin game where you need to move entire stack to another pin without ever putting a larger on a smaller. Secret is keep the smallest always going either clockwise or counter clockwise, start with 3, then 4, it begins to require a lot of moves. Good test for bonding ability of Rapid epoxy compared to JB Weld long Cure, and JB Kwik for those who can get it. Vise protectors for small parts. Shims for leveling when machining stuff. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:49 PM PST US From: "T Houlihan" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club Annual Dinner Information for Europa Club members who will be in the UK on 20th January 2007. In previous years we have had a Christmas dinner for UK members. This year your committee has decided to offer a relaxing weekend in January at a country house. By having this event in January we get better value for money and a better choice of venue. We have booked Saturday night for the dinner so you can arrive at your leasure on Saturday . On Sunday morning you can work off the effects of the night before in the gymnasium or just stroll around the gardens of the hotel and then depart when you are ready. We do hope you will come along with your partners. The booking details are at the end of the message. Please do not reply directly to this e mail. All correspondence should be to Secretary@europaclub.org.uk The Europa Club Invites you to join us at the Bosworth Hall Hotel Warwickshire On 20th January 2007 for our Annual Dinner 3 Course meal ( in a private dinning room) =A326.40 ,menu is below Accommodation =A380 Double bedroom bed and breakfast =A360 Single bedroom bed and breakfast http://www.hotelbosworthhall.co.uk/ We will be in our own dinning room and we will not have the usual disco or other entertainment so we will be able to catch up with old friends in comfort. We will have access to the hotel facilities where you can unwind or work out in the gymnasium using the latest state of the art equipment. Relax in the heated indoor swimming pool, sauna, steam room or Jacuzzi. Challenge your friends or colleagues to a game of tennis on one of our courts. Alternatively, play a game of croquet or take a stroll through our beautiful gardens and grounds. The menu is Starter Roulade of smoked salmon with spinach and a horseradish cream Main Breast of chicken filled with a roasted garlic and Gruy=E8re cheese and served with a Proven=E7ale sauce Sweet Tiramisu coated with coffee sauce There will be a vegetarian / Vegan option please contact the Europa Club Secretary for details. What to do ? Book accommodation directly with Bosworth Hall hotel, Market Bosworth, Warwickshire, CV13 0PL tel no 01455 291919 mention the Europa Club event for this special rate Book and pay for your meal with the Europa Club secretary who can be contacted at Secretary@europaclub.org.uk or 18 The Causeway, Quedgeley, Gloucester, GL2 4LD tel No 01452 720804 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:20 PM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" Subject: RE: Europa-List: avionics cut outs Ron, Good photograph of your panel. I see you have the Becker xpndr and radio. That is what I put in my plane and have been nothing but happy with them. I'm surprised more people aren't using them. they're compact and I am told have a good reputation. Steve Hagar A143 Test flying 24 hrs. 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