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1. 03:42 AM - Re: Rotax Water Temperature. (William Mills)
2. 04:29 AM - Re: Mandatory mod no 72 (Peter Jeffers)
3. 06:30 AM - Mod 72 (Robert Borger)
4. 09:42 AM - Re: Teflon Braid Fittings (Paul Stewart)
5. 09:45 AM - Tri-Gear For Sale (JEFF ROBERTS)
6. 10:58 AM - Re: Mandatory mod no 72 (m.clews)
7. 11:25 AM - Re: Aeroquip 666 (Robert Borger)
8. 12:28 PM - speed kit request for tri gear (Paul Boulet)
9. 02:31 PM - Re: speed kit request for tri gear (AlStills)
10. 03:58 PM - Re: speed kit request for tri gear (Paul Boulet)
11. 05:24 PM - Test (Tony Krzyzewski)
12. 06:48 PM - Europa tri gear check list (Paul Boulet)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Water Temperature. |
Hi Gilles,
I tested the digital thermometer / thermocouple, when I bought it, in
boiling water and, allowing for STP, it is accurate. The CHT is the
standard Rotax sender / VDO gauge and has served me well for 1100 hours, but
I have never tested it for accuracy.
Mine is a Classic so I have the massive rads in the nose, which are about 60
% blanked off in the winter and about 30 % blanked off in the summer to
maintain about 85 to 90 degs C in the cruise. In the early days I ran with
80% glycol and now I run at 50%. I tried the Evans for about 25 hours and
then discarded it because its cooling qualities were so inferior. I have
cowl flaps for increasing the exit area for sustained climbs in hot weather,
which reduce temps by about 10 degs C.
Maybe the heat transfer from coolant to thermocouple by just taping it to
the outside of the tank is not good enough, or perhaps the coolant from the
front pots is reducing the average in the expansion tank by 15 to 20 degs.
Anyway, I have never had problems with high temps, so it is all a bit
academic for my aircraft.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax Water Temperature.
<Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
> My exit coolant temp works out at 25 degs C less than the CHT pretty well
> throughout the range.
William,
25C seems a great temperature difference between the CHT and the
coolant flowing out of the heads. That would mean that even at the 135C
CHT red line (Rotax 914), your coolant would not exit the the heads
above110C ? Or flying at 100C CHT, the coolant would not exceed 75C ?
All the measurements I did showed a difference on the order of 5C.
Have you tried checking the two temperature measuring devices in the
same water or oil bath ?
Regards,
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Mandatory mod no 72 |
=A314 actually +VAT + P & P.
Just to inform all club members that two 16.5 mm reamers have been
purchased
by the club for free use by members. Just pay for return or onward
posting
to next user.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Sent: 14 January 2007 17:45
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72
A suitable reamer can be had for =A312 from
http://www.tracytools.com/reamersstraight.htm
Simon
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Sheridan
Sent: 14 January 2007 09:09
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72
<rogerjohnsheridan@yahoo.co.uk>
Perhaps the Europa Club would invest in a suitable reamer which we
can share around.
Cheers,
Rog Sheridan
(hanging on for 912S MkII !)
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Fellow Europaphiles,
I have placed an order with E04 for Mod 72. John Wheeler replied that the Mod
72 parts should start shipping in about 3 weeks.
For those of us in the U.S., I am trying to find a local source for a 16.5mm hand
reamer. If I can source one, I'll be glad to share it as needed.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Braid Fittings |
Troy
i know you wouldn't buy from the UK but the web site of a company
called speedflow is great for looking at what's available. they are
essentially racecar fittings but appear to be identical to the
aircraft AN series. We have used them for both alu lines and SS
braided. Web address is www.speedflow.co.uk Even the part
numbers seem the same as AN series No doubt you could find a similar
supplier in the US if ACS can't oblige
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 15 Jan 2007, at 03:20, Troy Maynor wrote:
> Hi All,
> I am replacing the cloth braided old style fuel hose on my yet to be
> completed classic. I am going to run some Teflon 666 hose from the
> pump
> through the tunnel to a bulkhead fitting on the firewall and a
> return of the
> same quality to the reserve side of the tank. The ACS catalog is a
> little
> vague on fittings that go with the 666 stuff. I need to go from a
> 1/4" NPT
> 90deg. on the pump to the appropiate bulk head fitting, times two
> counting
> the return. Then, when it gets to the fitting on the reserve side
> of the
> tank adapter it is now a 1/8" NPT. I want the correct aircraft
> grade stuff,
> avoiding the use of jubilee/spiral hose clamps. I'm having trouble
> identifying the compatible bits. I have looked at the archive
> without the
> detail I need. Just tell me where to look I guess is the main
> question, but
> all clues accepted. I will need to source additional configurations of
> fittings like these in the future for the FWF side. Thanks to those
> who have
> gone before.
>
> Troy Maynor
> N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
> Left to finish:
> Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring.
> Weaverville, NC USA
>
> <winmail.dat>
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| Subject: | Tri-Gear For Sale |
Fellow Europaphiles,
I have painfully come to the conclusion that I should sell my Europa
Tri-Gear A258 / Gold Rush. We are building a new home and I'm trying to
add another 20 acres of land to the project / Future runway. For the
next few years I will have little time for flying and the hanger rent
and and an idle plane do not make sense right now.
I have about 70 hours on her and she fly's perfect. This plane spent
her first month of construction under the watchful eyes of Bob Berube
at Flight Crafters in Florida and it came out as a perfect and balanced
plane from the very first flight. Had a visit from Neville on his way
to Oshkosh a few years back for one of many tech & build inspections.
Others done by Steve Wright of Wright Aviation. Some of you may
remember his ''Stagger EZ'' that was on the front cover of last years
2006 Oshkosh program. Having him in the hanger right beside mine was
invaluable.
It has a 912-S with the standard ground adjustable warp drive prop
which I have set at 21 degrees. The empty weight is 877 pounds before
wheel pants. I'm seeing 130 Kts at 6,500 to 7,500 ft @ 5200 RPM's and
she'll do 120 Kts and sip gas at 4800 RPM's. I nicknamed her Gold Rush
as you can see by the paint job. I spent a year block sanding with a
high build primer then painting, and the finish is outstanding. Here is
a list of the panel goodies.
I-Com A200 radio
Garmin 320-A Transponder
Trutrack ADI with built in GPS
Stratomaster E2 Engine monitoring system... My Favorite!
Nav-Aid Autopilot & Servo
Ray Allen Wing leveler with servo built in the aileron.
UMA Altimeter, VSI, and Air Speed with V-speeds silk screened in.
Panel mounted AvMap, with 7 inch screen. I split the screen with map
and HSI.
Flightcom 403 Intercom and a few other toys.
And it has the new Gas Landing light under the prop, thats brighter
than any I've ever seen but uses only 2.9 amps
I have not placed an ad anywhere yet. If there is any interest please
email me direct at this address jeff@rmmm.net.
Best Regards,
Jeff Roberts
615-406-8651 Cell
jeff@rmmm.net
N128LJ / Gold Rush
Here is a picture with more upon your request.
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| Subject: | Re: Mandatory mod no 72 |
RE: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72Well done Pete!...see you at the
club dinner?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Jeffers
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72
=A314 actually +VAT + P & P.
Just to inform all club members that two 16.5 mm reamers have been
purchased by the club for free use by members. Just pay for return or
onward posting to next user.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Simon Smith
Sent: 14 January 2007 17:45
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72
A suitable reamer can be had for =A312 from
http://www.tracytools.com/reamersstraight.htm
Simon
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger
Sheridan
Sent: 14 January 2007 09:09
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mandatory mod no 72
<rogerjohnsheridan@yahoo.co.uk>
Perhaps the Europa Club would invest in a suitable reamer which we
can share around.
Cheers,
Rog Sheridan
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| Subject: | Re: Aeroquip 666 |
Troy,
I have Aeroquip 666 throughout my fuel system except for some of the plumbing around
the fuel pumps/filters. And I'd have it there if I could have figured out
how to do it. I agree totally about spring clamps, jubilee clamps, etc. in
the fuel system. The stuff I used around the fuel pumps/filters is rubber fuel
injection hose and screw clamps and I don't like it, but haven't figured out
another solution.
Aeroquip 666 is great stuff but is a bear to work with if you plan to build your
own hose from the bits and pieces. The Teflon is stiff and extremely difficult
to get over an AN Hose Barb fitting or over the hose barb that is on the end
fitting that ACS sells for the hose. I have not tried heating it to see if
it will soften, something I just thought about while writing this. That might
be an idea for me to try this weekend. All my hose is custom built by some
subcontractor ACS uses. They build it to your exact specifications, charge you
a heck of a lot for it and if it doesn't fit because you got the specs wrong,
well you eat it. Just today I placed a quote request for 4 lengths (10", 11",
16" & 18") of 666-6 with a straight AN-6 fitting on one end and a 90 degree
AN-6 fitting on the other.
Another issue is going from your 666-6 hose with (I believe, but don't hold me
to this) AN-6 fittings to another size AN-fitting. For instance, I used a long
666-6 hose to run the return back from the firewall fitting to the tank. When
I was close to the fuel tank I put in an AN919-6D reducer (3/8" flare to 1/4"
flare) and followed it with a short length of 666-4 hose to connect to the
AN-816-4D sized fitting (1/4" flare to 1/8" NPT) return fitting on the fuel tank.
Though, now I see that there is an AN816-6-2D which will connect a 3/8"
flare to a 1/8" NPT. That was not available from ACS a couple years ago when
I did my plumbing. Considering what I'd have to go through to remove that length
of 666-4, I think it will remain the way it is unless I find it leaks.
The rule of thumb I use for my AN-fitting experiments is the AN-number on the fitting
usually signifies the size of the tubing it will connect to in 16 ths of
an inch: AN-2 = 2/16" = 1/8", AN-3 = 3/16", AN-4 = 4/16" = 1/4" or AN-6 = 6/16"
= 3/8". But this isn't a perfect hard and fast law, I have a small stock
of fittings I thought would work, but didn't. Sometimes you just have to buy
a couple and see how they fit. At prices from $0.50 to $1.5 each, you can afford
to try a couple fitting sizes to see what goes. I make sure I mark examples
I purchase with their size so I can refer to them later.
Another excellent source of AN fittings is http://www.anplumbing.com/ from Earls Performance Products. Earl carries a heck of a lot more types and styles of AN fittings, hoses, odds and ends than ACS. They sure seem to be the same quality stuff that ACS sells. Earl also has fittings to go from metric threads to AN fittings.
Anybody else out there have other ideas, suggestions, comments, please chime in.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
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| Subject: | speed kit request for tri gear |
Hi All;=0AI can't believe it's been over 6 years since I started my kit. H
appily I got to fly some 15 hours over the past 5 days in Arizona's beautif
ul Phoenix area desert. Thinking about the future was wondering if anyone
has speed kit for the tri gear for sale? I have the mono wheel speed kit l
eft over from my conversion but it's pretty useless to me now.=0A=0APaul Bo
ulet, N914PB=0Ahas flown off 25 of the 40 hours FAA requires=0A=0A
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| Subject: | speed kit request for tri gear |
Paul,
Don't have the speed kit your asking for Except for my own) but was told
another Europa was flying around the area and wondered who it
was. Glad to hear your having a good time iin it.
Al Stills
N625AZ
KDVT
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| Subject: | Re: speed kit request for tri gear |
Hi Al;=0AThanks for the note- what a hoot and holler these planes are! Do
you want to fly tandem next time I come up? I'm restricted on the North by
Falcon field and in the South by Marana. I expect to return in early Marc
h for another 4 or 5 days- hopefully the weather will be warmer=0APaul=0A
=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: AlStills <astills@cox.net>=0ATo:
europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:30:16 PM=0ASub
ject: RE: Europa-List: speed kit request for tri gear=0A=0A=0A--> Europa-Li
st message posted by: "AlStills" <astills@cox.net>=0A=0APaul,=0ADon't have
the speed kit your asking for Except for my own) but was told=0Aanother Eu
ropa was flying around the area and wondered who it=0Awas. Glad to hear you
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Just ignore me! I'm having a problem with receiving list emails and I'm
testing.
Do not archive
Tony
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| Subject: | Europa tri gear check list |
Does anyone have a tri gear pre flight, pre take off, etc check list they c
an email me? Thanks=0APaul Boulet, N914PB
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