---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/18/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:34 AM - Water in tailplane elevator (colin smallwood) 2. 05:03 AM - Re: Water in tailplane elevator (David Joyce) 3. 05:49 AM - Re: Water in tailplane elevator (nigel charles) 4. 06:03 AM - Re: Water in tailplane elevator (Peter Jeffers) 5. 01:17 PM - Re: Water in tailplane elevator (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 6. 05:29 PM - Re: It's arrived :-) (Alan Burrows) 7. 11:37 PM - Re: Re: It's arrived :-) (Steve Pitt) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:38 AM PST US From: "colin smallwood" Subject: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Hi All, A couple of Q,s and help please. Any one had a problem with H20 in the tailplane strb side It is a small amount , still same weight as Port tailplane. Any ideas on removal? noise/wash appears to be F/wd of pip pin apperture. Obviously I need to cover pip pin slots, anyone have a fix for this please? See you, (those attending) on Saturday at Bosworth Hall Regards Colin Smallwood G-DEBR 15 hrs into licence, circuits OK but Landing !!! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:18 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Colin, Put a sticky PVC circle over them, along with your other access holes, and wing roots. It will go faster apart from keeping the water out. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin smallwood" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Hi All, A couple of Q,s and help please. Any one had a problem with H20 in the tailplane strb side It is a small amount , still same weight as Port tailplane. Any ideas on removal? noise/wash appears to be F/wd of pip pin apperture. Obviously I need to cover pip pin slots, anyone have a fix for this please? See you, (those attending) on Saturday at Bosworth Hall Regards Colin Smallwood G-DEBR 15 hrs into licence, circuits OK but Landing !!! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:57 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator A quick solution for covering the pip pin holes is to use discs of self adhesive white pvc sheet. They look neat and unobtrusive. I used them for the wing drag pin and flap rod inspection holes as well. They cope well with the surface curvature, especially at the wing root. It does mean that you need a new set every time the pins are removed. This is only a significant problem if you rig and derig for each flight. Nigel Charles -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of colin smallwood Sent: 18 January 2007 12:33 Subject: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Hi All, A couple of Q,s and help please. Any one had a problem with H20 in the tailplane strb side It is a small amount , still same weight as Port tailplane. Any ideas on removal? noise/wash appears to be F/wd of pip pin apperture. Obviously I need to cover pip pin slots, anyone have a fix for this please? See you, (those attending) on Saturday at Bosworth Hall Regards Colin Smallwood G-DEBR 15 hrs into licence, circuits OK but Landing !!! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:37 AM PST US From: "Peter Jeffers" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Hi Colin, I have had to deal with H2O ingress in tail planes and wings. The wing was difficult but tailplanes a lot easier to dry out. It would be simpler to describe the method when we meet at Bosworth Hall on Saturday rather than by e mail. See you Saturday Pete Jeffers -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: 18 January 2007 13:02 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Colin, Put a sticky PVC circle over them, along with your other access holes, and wing roots. It will go faster apart from keeping the water out. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin smallwood" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:33 PM Subject: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator Hi All, A couple of Q,s and help please. Any one had a problem with H20 in the tailplane strb side It is a small amount , still same weight as Port tailplane. Any ideas on removal? noise/wash appears to be F/wd of pip pin apperture. Obviously I need to cover pip pin slots, anyone have a fix for this please? See you, (those attending) on Saturday at Bosworth Hall Regards Colin Smallwood G-DEBR 15 hrs into licence, circuits OK but Landing !!! -- 20:29 -- 20:29 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:47 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator <>> How much faster?! Duncan McF do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator > > > Colin, Put a sticky PVC circle over them, along with your other access > holes, and wing roots. It will go faster apart from keeping the water out. > Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "colin smallwood" > To: "matronics" > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:33 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Water in tailplane elevator > > > Hi All, > A couple of Q,s and help please. > Any one had a problem with H20 in the tailplane strb side > It is a small amount , still same weight as Port tailplane. > Any ideas on removal? noise/wash appears to be F/wd > of pip pin apperture. > Obviously I need to cover pip pin slots, > anyone have a fix for this please? > See you, (those attending) on Saturday at Bosworth Hall > Regards > Colin Smallwood G-DEBR > 15 hrs into licence, circuits OK but Landing !!! > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:49 PM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: Europa-List: RE: It's arrived :-) Hello All After many arduous and stressful battles with the U.S. customs (and lots of money changing hands), my Europa finally arrived here in Spruce Creek Florida at 4pm this evening. Tomorrow I will start the delicate unpacking process and hope not too many parts are damaged. The whole process involved me being considered a "dodgy character" (some may agree with that view) by the customs authority and having the aircraft moved to a secure storage facility where it could be thoroughly searched for illicit contraband. The container had three separate holds placed on it and was only released after many irate phone calls from me and a thorough in depth search by the men in power. Oh yes and did I mention the fact that they were charging me storage whilst they had the container. They released the container ( and the aircraft) yesterday and our trucker turned up today to collect it all only to be told that they couldn't release it as the " Inspection fee" had not been paid.... it had but they just didn't look at the right bank account for it! SO more irate phone calls and we were finally informed that they had found the money and we could have the container. The trucker had been there from 11am to 2.30pm waiting for it. But now it's here as you can imagine, life is good again. And tomorrow we start battle with the FAA. Hope to see everyone at Sun 'n Fun. Happy Flying and building Cheers Alan -- 04:00 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:37:13 PM PST US From: "Steve Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: It's arrived :-) Alan Delighted to hear that you have finally arrived safely but staggered that you have had so much trouble getting the aircraft through. I look forward to hearing more detail of your trials as I was hoping to take my Europa over in the next few years, but you seem to be putting me off. Regards Steve Pitt G-SMDH PS Would it have been easier to take it on a roll on roll off in its own trailer? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.