---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/25/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:47 AM - Main monowheel tyre (flyingphil2) 2. 08:35 AM - Re: Main monowheel tyre (John & Paddy Wigney) 3. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (GLENN CROWDER) 4. 02:03 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (Tom Friedland) 5. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (GLENN CROWDER) 6. 06:54 PM - Firewall Fuel Fittings (Troy Maynor) 7. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (Tom Friedland) 8. 07:08 PM - Good reason to not use automotive teflon hose () 9. 10:35 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (GLENN CROWDER) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:17 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Main monowheel tyre From: "flyingphil2" Hi, I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the 'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took on the production). My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. What do others think? Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:55 AM PST US From: John & Paddy Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Hi Phil, FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just a few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with an identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed for aircraft use and wear may be a problem. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina ******************* >From "flyingphil2" I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the 'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took on the production). My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. What do others think? ******************* ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:47:55 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I might be inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a smidgen more ground clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. Glenn >From: John & Paddy Wigney >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 > > > >Hi Phil, > >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just a >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with an >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. > >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed for >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. > >Cheers, John > >N262WF, mono XS, 912S >Mooresville, North Carolina > >******************* > >>From "flyingphil2" >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took >on the production). >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. >What do others think? ******************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Get Hilary Duffs homepage with her photos, music, and more. http://celebrities.live.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:20 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Hi Glen I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit. Tom Friedland On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > > > > I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I > might be > inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a > smidgen > more ground > clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. > > Glenn > > >From: John & Paddy Wigney > >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List > >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 > > > > > > > >Hi Phil, > > > >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very > >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and > >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just a > >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make > >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with an > >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform > >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. > > > >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if > >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed > for > >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. > > > >Cheers, John > > > >N262WF, mono XS, 912S > >Mooresville, North Carolina > > > >******************* > > > >>From "flyingphil2" > >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. > >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the > >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? > >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply > >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical in > >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle took > >on the production). > >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been recommended. > >What do others think? ******************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more. > http://celebrities.live.com > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:11:20 PM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any rubbing on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance? Inquiring minds yada yada! Glenn >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800 > >Hi Glen > >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit. > >Tom Friedland > > >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: >> >> >> >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so far. I >>might be >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a >>smidgen >>more ground >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. >> >> Glenn >> >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney >> >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List >> >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 >> > >> > >> > >> >Hi Phil, >> > >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with just >>a >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to make >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with >>an >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. >> > >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel if >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was designed >>for >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. >> > >> >Cheers, John >> > >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S >> >Mooresville, North Carolina >> > >> >******************* >> > >> >>From "flyingphil2" >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical >>in >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle >>took >> >on the production). >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been >>recommended. >> >What do others think? ******************* >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more. >>http://celebrities.live.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your Live.com page. http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:11 PM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: Firewall Fuel Fittings Hi All, For those of you that have the classic FWF, and it may apply to XS too, when you brought the supply and return fuel lines through the top of the tunnel and thru the F/W, did you immediatly turn 90 deg. upward or straight on thru? I am ordering some fittings. Need to know if I need straights or 90 deg.after penetrating forward. Mine will be clamped to the top of the tunnel and going through GS firewall mod. Troy Maynor N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic Left to finish: Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring. Weaverville, NC USA ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:31 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Hi Glen Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have a prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure? I'll probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions? Tom N96V On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > > > Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any > rubbing > on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance? > Inquiring minds yada yada! > > Glenn > > >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> > >To: europa-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800 > > > >Hi Glen > > > >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit. > > > >Tom Friedland > > > > > >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > >> > gcrowder2@hotmail.com> > >> > >> > >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so > far. I > >>might be > >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a > >>smidgen > >>more ground > >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. > >> > >> Glenn > >> > >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney > >> >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List > >> >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >Hi Phil, > >> > > >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very > >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and > >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with > just > >>a > >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to > make > >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire with > >>an > >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of uniform > >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. > >> > > >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel > if > >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was > designed > >>for > >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. > >> > > >> >Cheers, John > >> > > >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S > >> >Mooresville, North Carolina > >> > > >> >******************* > >> > > >> >>From "flyingphil2" > >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. > >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the > >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? > >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply > >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be identical > >>in > >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle > >>took > >> >on the production). > >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been > >>recommended. > >> >What do others think? ******************* > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more. > >>http://celebrities.live.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. View photos, recipes and more on your > Live.com page. > http://www.live.com/?addTemplate=ValentinesDay&ocid=T001MSN30A0701 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:41 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Good reason to not use automotive teflon hose From: Figured I would share with group a good reason to consider not using Automotive Racing Teflon hose with Stainless braid even though it is cheapier and looks very similar. http://www.sacskyranch.com/statichose.htm I was wondering just why Aeroquip 666 had a black conductive coating on the ID of the Teflon. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:35:41 PM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Hi Tom - The mono with the 8.00 x 6 could be slightly easier to land (its very easy now and I'm a very low time tail dragger pilot) with a little higher deck angle. This should allow the a/c to be more stalled when the main wheel contacts which could reduce the minor bouncing you get if you land a little too flat. Its not even a problem now, its just the technique you learn. If you find yourself bouncing your landings, you just didn't land with the tail quite low enough. I rarely get any bounce at all except maybe in gusty conditions. Does it look like the tire could contact the landing gear frame in a slightly sideways landing? How much clearance is there at 18 psi? Glenn >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:06:58 -0800 > >Hi Glen > >Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with >retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have a >prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure? >I'll >probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions? > >Tom N96V > >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: >> >> >>Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any >>rubbing >>on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance? >>Inquiring minds yada yada! >> >> Glenn >> >> >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> >> >To: europa-list@matronics.com >> >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800 >> > >> >Hi Glen >> > >> >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit. >> > >> >Tom Friedland >> > >> > >> >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: >> >> >>gcrowder2@hotmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so >>far. I >> >>might be >> >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a >> >>smidgen >> >>more ground >> >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. >> >> >> >> Glenn >> >> >> >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney >> >> >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List >> >> >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >> >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Hi Phil, >> >> > >> >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very >> >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and >> >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with >>just >> >>a >> >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to >>make >> >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire >>with >> >>an >> >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of >>uniform >> >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. >> >> > >> >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the tunnel >>if >> >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was >>designed >> >>for >> >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. >> >> > >> >> >Cheers, John >> >> > >> >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S >> >> >Mooresville, North Carolina >> >> > >> >> >******************* >> >> > >> >> >>From "flyingphil2" >> >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on one. >> >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the >> >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? >> >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply >> >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be >>identical >> >>in >> >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess Carlisle >> >>took >> >> >on the production). >> >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been >> >>recommended. >> >> >What do others think? ******************* >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >> >>Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more. >> >>http://celebrities.live.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. 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