---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 01/26/07: 34 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:52 AM - Fuel flow for 914 (David Joyce) 2. 05:24 AM - MAP on 914 (Paul Stewart) 3. 05:28 AM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 () 4. 05:32 AM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 (Paul McAllister) 5. 05:42 AM - Re: MAP on 914 (Jim Brown) 6. 05:55 AM - Europa Hi/Lo (G-IANI) 7. 05:57 AM - Re: MAP on 914 (Jos Okhuijsen) 8. 06:02 AM - Re: MAP on 914 () 9. 06:26 AM - DOTH Sat 27th Old Buckenham (Paddy Clarke) 10. 07:32 AM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 (GLENN CROWDER) 11. 07:42 AM - Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (GLENN CROWDER) 12. 08:45 AM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (Pete Lawless) 13. 09:09 AM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (GLENN CROWDER) 14. 09:25 AM - Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 (GLENN CROWDER) 15. 09:26 AM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 16. 10:15 AM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (GLENN CROWDER) 17. 10:16 AM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 (Simon Smith) 18. 10:17 AM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (Pete Lawless) 19. 10:20 AM - Re: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 (JEFF ROBERTS) 20. 10:31 AM - Digital level purchase in the UK (nigel charles) 21. 10:46 AM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 (David Joyce) 22. 11:02 AM - Re: Digital level purchase in the UK (David Watts) 23. 11:03 AM - Graphics (David Joyce) 24. 12:27 PM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 25. 12:33 PM - Re: Graphics (Peter Rees) 26. 12:49 PM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (Pete Lawless) 27. 12:56 PM - Re: Fuel flow for 914 (Gilles Thesee) 28. 02:22 PM - Re: Europa Hi/Lo (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 29. 02:29 PM - Re: Europa Hi/Lo (Graham Singleton) 30. 02:30 PM - Re: Digital level purchase in the UK (Graham Singleton) 31. 02:31 PM - Re: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 32. 03:05 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (Tom Friedland) 33. 03:53 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (Graham Singleton) 34. 08:53 PM - Re: Re: Main monowheel tyre (GLENN CROWDER) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:52:18 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers? Thanks, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:24:57 AM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: MAP on 914 Can anyone tell me what range of MAP's the 914 will produce - presumably higher than the 912. I'm planning to monitor MAP on our BMA E1 and want to be sure it will cover the range required. I see the target airbox pressure of 39.9 inches in tthe operators manual but I dont know if this is the same as MAP Regards Paul G- GIDY ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 From: Hello David "> Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that > measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers?" I am not flying yet, have a analogue UMA 1+1/4" fuel flow gauge with EL to match the rest of my engine instruments. I had 3 marks put on the face ~75%, 100% and 115%, I will be glad to share the dart throw numbers I chose if you are interested. The face can be changed if I missed by too much. I have enough glass in panel, Dynon D10A, and 296 Garmin, for engine monitoring I am much more comfortable following trends and evaluating data with needles, just call me old fashioned. Anyway the UMA comes with a 201B, and I used a Matronics FuelChec (tm) Return Flow Controller that comes with a 201B to subtract the return from FPR to tank. If real world flow numbers are not quite accurate enough, Ed can recalibrate instrument. Just a side note, I have a Europa mechanical float style sender in my tank (8 stations). Instead of using the round VDO gauge, I had UMA make a custom 1+1/4" gauge with EL in 1/8 increments, have yellow at 1/8 to 1/4 and red from 0 to 1/8. If by chance anyone is interested I will share the ohm data for the 8 points. Such a stupid simple devise, 8 reed switches and a magnet on the float, the reed switches have a built in hysteresis so bouncing between stations should be minimal, Europa seems to have calibrated the stations to match the shape of the tank (stations are not same spacing, so i assume they did their homework) and cares not about water, type of fuel and gives me a pseudo inspection hole I can semi look into tank. You can get UMA in 2+1/4 and probably 3+1/8. With the 2+1/4 and 3+1/8 you can get a low and high warning light if you wish, or since it is simple analogue driving the gauge on the fuel and fuel flow, could build your own warning light circuit fair easy. If you want a piece of glass with more buttons and functions, you may want to look at Matronics, and JPI Fuel Scan 450. http://www.matronics.com/ http://www.umainstruments.com/newTwo1.htm http://www.umainstruments.com/ This is a down-loadable UMA Catalog: http://www.sunav.com/uma-electronic.pdf Sharon is the gal you want to talk to for Sales, and Ed is the Engineer. Very easy folk to deal with. They exchanged my supplied with FWF MP gauge for one with proper markings (slight charge). After mounting 2+1/4" engine instruments (MP, Tach, and Differential) which matched the rest of panel 2+1/4" stuff that is using UMA EL Light rings, found out "No good" since I can not view them straight on, the light ring obstructed a bit too much view of the gauge. No problem, sent back and had installed internal EL, now things are much more better! Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:41 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 I beleive that Matt Dralle sells a system that works in high reverse flows situations such as the 914. - Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:51 AM Subject: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers? Thanks, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:18 AM PST US From: "Jim Brown" Subject: Re: Europa-List: MAP on 914 Paul here in Florida at sea level, a full throttle take off will produce 40 inches of boost or MP. on our 914 installation. Jim Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 8:27 AM Subject: Europa-List: MAP on 914 > > Can anyone tell me what range of MAP's the 914 will produce - presumably > higher than the 912. I'm planning to monitor MAP on our BMA E1 and want > to be sure it will cover the range required. I see the target airbox > pressure of 39.9 inches in tthe operators manual but I dont know if this > is the same as MAP > > Regards > > Paul > > G- GIDY > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:31 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Hi/Lo Its about time to tell everyone what we are doing and get your reaction/ comments. The Europa high top has its good points but experience has shown that raising the fire wall, despite the fact that your are sitting higher, reduces the forward visibility. While this is quite acceptable, to the ex spitfire pilots, Terry Clark has decided he would like to do something about it. I conjunction with Andy Draper we have developed a modification to replace the top engine cowl (with the standard cowl) and lower the fire wall to the original height. This has proved to be remarkably easy. See the attached photo. You can clearly see the 65mm gap between the top frame and the lower moulding. The original upper and lower flanges are now together (rather than attaching to the "high top" spacer). The air vent was through the upper joint and will be completed in the new joint. For anyone with a High top (or the six kits on order) I will be happy to send a more detailed description of what has been done. Andy and Roger both like the result and this could become the standard Hi/Lo top for the future. The complication is that the result requires a screen 65mm vertically deeper than the original. For this first prototype this can be made from the LPAero screen blank. A better solution is to make a new mould and I would like reactions from Hightop owners/builders to see if it is worth investing in this mould. Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: MAP on 914 From: "Jos Okhuijsen" Hi Paul, MAP is Manifold Air Pressure, and is not the same as air-box pressure. Even at full throttle there has to be some pressure drop in the throat of the carburettor for it to produce a mixture. So my guess is that taking the air-box pressure as max, will keep the indicator off the corner. -- Kind Regards, Jos Okhuijsen workshopcam http://www.okhuijsen.org/plane http://www.europaowners.org/kit600 mono xs, top on, gear in, tail wheel in, wings set, flapdrive in, tail closed, tailwheel in, tail top in, blue stuff filled, sanded and primed, fuel system in, doors done, windows in, sanding and filling the fuse and wings, engine installation, panel ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: MAP on 914 From: Hello Paul "Can anyone tell me what range of MAP's the 914 will produce" You should take a look at the owners manual for the 914, and be sure to get the latest and greatest revisions. Stick the wastegate closed when in thick air and you could pretty easily blow through 42 inches, I am not flying yet but a guy who blew his up at least 2 times pegged his MP which was 42 inches. I think depending on serial numbers (TCU and other) redline max MP is just under 40 inches for the latest and greatest, or I think just a tad under 39 inches. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:14 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sat 27th Old Buckenham Hi Folks, We're overdue for a DOTH. How about Old Buckenham tomorrow ( Saturday 27th )?. It has a hard R/W 07/25, voucher in Pilot -1200ish. Cheers, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:55 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Hi David - I have used the Matronics Fuel Scan DX with return fuel controller for 3 yrs now and has been faultless so far. I have a shutoff valve in the return line to the tank that is extremely helpful for debug. Instructions are good and support was immediate when I had a small cabling snag. Glenn >From: "David Joyce" >To: "Europa list" >Subject: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:50:45 -0000 > > > >Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that >measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers? >Thanks, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people you know ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:42:02 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:45:52 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Hi Glenn A pal of mine has just fitted a Dynon EFIS in his RV, this includes a fluxgate compass and electronic AH, amongst a host of other features. It saved 8 pounds getting rid of the vacuum instruments. Its early days but so far both pilots who fly the aeroplane love the display. I had a look at it yesterday and it is certainly very easy to read. Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER Sent: 26 January 2007 15:41 Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! Glenn _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:09:33 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Hi Pete - Thanks for the steer. I am aware of the Dynon for sure and will be doing something like that before too long. I was just looking for something kind of inexpensive for now. Also, my hangar is not too secure. Does the Dynon have a quick removal feature so one could take it home after flying? Glenn >From: "Pete Lawless" >To: >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a >DG? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:44:08 -0000 > > >Hi Glenn > >A pal of mine has just fitted a Dynon EFIS in his RV, this includes a >fluxgate compass and electronic AH, amongst a host of other features. It >saved 8 pounds getting rid of the vacuum instruments. Its early days but >so >far both pilots who fly the aeroplane love the display. I had a look at it >yesterday and it is certainly very easy to read. > >Regards > >Pete > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER >Sent: 26 January 2007 15:41 >To: Europa-List@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? > > > > I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. >My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to >set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced >by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I >can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: >http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html > It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq >so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! > > Glenn > >_________________________________________________________________ >Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo buy and sell with people you know ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:04 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Europa-List: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 I just found the Trutrac ADI with attitude indicator, DG track, and actual bank angle indicator (not turn rate). Looks pretty good for $1100. You can also get it with built in autopilot. Anybody using one? Looks like they're coming out with a Dynon type unit as well. Glenn http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:03 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Glenn, I am also installing the Dynon in my XS and yes, you can remove it quickly by means of an Allen wrench through the lower left portion of the faceplate. But you must not us the extra screw fitting that they provide in the lower right portion that accesses only from the rear of the unit to lock the display in place. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:20 AM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Hi Duane - Thats encouraging - you must have a quick disconnect plug behind it then. Did that come with the unit? Glenn >From: DuaneFamly@aol.com >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a >DG? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:25:13 EST > >Glenn, > >I am also installing the Dynon in my XS and yes, you can remove it quickly >by >means of an Allen wrench through the lower left portion of the faceplate. >But >you must not us the extra screw fitting that they provide in the lower >right >portion that accesses only from the rear of the unit to lock the display in >place. > > >Mike Duane A207A >Redding, California >XS Conventional Gear >Jabiru 3300 >Sensenich R64Z N >Ground Adjustable Prop _________________________________________________________________ >From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:23 AM PST US From: "Simon Smith" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Hi, Jpi do the FS450 which will cope with the input from two floscans. http://www.jpinstruments.com/fuel_scan.html I have the instrument and harness which are surplus to requirements (but not the sensors) if you are interested. Simon G-BZTN -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: 26 January 2007 09:51 Subject: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers? Thanks, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 10:17:23 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Glenn Not as far as I could see, it looked like a panel mount job bolted in. I will ask and let you know. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER Sent: 26 January 2007 17:07 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Hi Pete - Thanks for the steer. I am aware of the Dynon for sure and will be doing something like that before too long. I was just looking for something kind of inexpensive for now. Also, my hangar is not too secure. Does the Dynon have a quick removal feature so one could take it home after flying? Glenn >From: "Pete Lawless" >To: >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a >DG? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:44:08 -0000 > > >Hi Glenn > >A pal of mine has just fitted a Dynon EFIS in his RV, this includes a >fluxgate compass and electronic AH, amongst a host of other features. It >saved 8 pounds getting rid of the vacuum instruments. Its early days but >so >far both pilots who fly the aeroplane love the display. I had a look at it >yesterday and it is certainly very easy to read. > >Regards > >Pete > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER >Sent: 26 January 2007 15:41 >To: Europa-List@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? > > > > I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. >My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to >set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced >by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I >can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: >http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html > It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq >so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! > > Glenn > >_________________________________________________________________ >Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with people you know -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:20:19 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 Glenn, I purchased one of the first ones to come out and have been using it since last spring. It works great! I bought the internal GPS so your heading is right on track even on the ground as long as you have a shot of the satellites. You can also set it close to the stall as you like and it will start flashing to warn you. Go more than a 45 degree bank and red arrows will tell you which way to point the stick. It's all good, especially for the money. Here is a picture of it in my panel. As you can tell I highly recommend it. Best Regards Jeff Roberts N128LJ / Gold Rush... Flying and for sale. On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:21 AM, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > > > > I just found the Trutrac ADI with attitude indicator, DG track, and > actual > bank angle indicator (not turn rate). Looks pretty good for $1100. > You > can also get it with built in autopilot. Anybody using one? Looks > like they're > coming out with a Dynon type unit as well. > > Glenn > > http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > > Jeff Roberts RMMM Roberts Marketing & Media Management 615-355-7575 Office 615-406-8651 Cell ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:38 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: Europa-List: Digital level purchase in the UK Anyone looking for a cheap digital level might be interested to know that Lidl supermarket is selling these cheap at =A325 at the moment. I have bought one as a standby. I haven=92t had a chance to try it out properly yet. Its quoted with a resolution is 0.1 degree and a precision of 0.3 degree. On a quick end to end check the accuracy seems to be good for 0.1 degree. I would point out that I have never heard of the make =91Powerfix=92 and that these offers are for a very limited time but for =A325 I thought it worth a try. Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:46:26 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 Simon, Thanks for that. What sort of price are you thinking of? And is it surplus because of some problem or have you found a better system? regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Smith" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 > > Hi, > > Jpi do the FS450 which will cope with the input from two floscans. > > http://www.jpinstruments.com/fuel_scan.html > > I have the instrument and harness which are surplus to requirements (but not > the sensors) if you are interested. > > Simon G-BZTN > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce > Sent: 26 January 2007 09:51 > To: Europa list > Subject: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 > > > Can anyone recommend a fuel flow measuring system for a 914 (ie one that > measures supply and return flows), preferably using Floscan Transducers? > Thanks, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:02:57 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Digital level purchase in the UK Nigel, I put a similar message out back in the summer and they have had them every since at various times. I bought several at the time for friends plus one for myself as a backup to the one I already owned. I can report that it works just fine. Dave Watts G-BXDY Anyone looking for a cheap digital level might be interested to know that Lidl supermarket is selling these cheap at =A325 at the moment. I have bought one as a standby. I haven't had a chance to try it out properly yet. Its quoted with a resolution is 0.1 degree and a precision of 0.3 degree. On a quick end to end check the accuracy seems to be good for 0.1 degree. I would point out that I have never heard of the make 'Powerfix' and that these offers are for a very limited time but for =A325 I thought it worth a try. Nigel Charles Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (3.1.0.10 - 9.059.005). http://www.pctools.com/anti-virus/ ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:14 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Europa-List: Graphics I didn't keep the message but someone recently was asking for suggestions for graphics for their plane. A website that I have just been given for fuel flow instruments www.partsforaircraft.co.uk not only has an interesting range of instruments and other bits, but also a very convincing looking graphics service. Regards, David Joyce G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:27:20 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Glenn, The unit comes with a mounting shell that you attach to the panel. It has plugs mounted in the rear and the unit simply slides in and you just use the allen wrench to snug it down. Would you like some pix? Mike ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 12:33:55 PM PST US From: "Peter Rees" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Graphics David Thats where I got our Stratomaster FF-3 from (tank level and 2 flow rate senders - all in one instrument for about 99) - very happy indeed with it (though at the moment, we only use the tank level indication (which incidentally, accounts for the shape of the tank). Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:02 PM Subject: Europa-List: Graphics > > > I didn't keep the message but someone recently was asking for suggestions > for graphics for their plane. A website that I have just been given for > fuel > flow instruments www.partsforaircraft.co.uk not only has an interesting > range of instruments and other bits, but also a very convincing looking > graphics service. Regards, David Joyce G-XSDJ > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 12:49:10 PM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Glenn A reply from the Dynon user. "You just undo a jackscrew at the bottom LH corner, which pushes it out an inch or so, and pull it the rest of the way out of its rack. You then unplug the D-sub and then the tricky bit: it has a pitot and static connection to it (we are not using the AoA facility so just the two). In our case you could pull the neoprene hoses off but I guess that if you wanted to do frequent removal / replacement it would be best to make some sort of (reliable) screwed connections, perhaps using AN fittings." Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER Sent: 26 January 2007 17:07 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? Hi Pete - Thanks for the steer. I am aware of the Dynon for sure and will be doing something like that before too long. I was just looking for something kind of inexpensive for now. Also, my hangar is not too secure. Does the Dynon have a quick removal feature so one could take it home after flying? Glenn >From: "Pete Lawless" >To: >Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a >DG? >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:44:08 -0000 > > >Hi Glenn > >A pal of mine has just fitted a Dynon EFIS in his RV, this includes a >fluxgate compass and electronic AH, amongst a host of other features. It >saved 8 pounds getting rid of the vacuum instruments. Its early days but >so >far both pilots who fly the aeroplane love the display. I had a look at it >yesterday and it is certainly very easy to read. > >Regards > >Pete > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GLENN CROWDER >Sent: 26 January 2007 15:41 >To: Europa-List@matronics.com >Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? > > > > I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. >My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to >set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced >by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I >can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: >http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html > It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq >so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! > > Glenn > >_________________________________________________________________ >Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > > >-- >This message has been scanned for viruses and >dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >believed to be clean. > > _________________________________________________________________ FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with people you know -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 12:56:49 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel flow for 914 > Jpi do the FS450 which will cope with the input from two floscans. > Hi all, We're using an FS 450 with our Rotax 914, and are satisfied with it. Regards, Gilles Thesee Grenoble, France http://contrails.free.fr ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:47 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Hi/Lo Doesn't this mean that you merely see more of the top of the cowl, rather than more countryside? Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "G-IANI" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:55 PM Subject: Europa-List: Europa Hi/Lo > > Its about time to tell everyone what we are doing and get your reaction/ > comments. > > The Europa high top has its good points but experience has shown that > raising the fire wall, despite the fact that your are sitting higher, > reduces the forward visibility. While this is quite acceptable, to the > ex spitfire pilots, Terry Clark has decided he would like to do > something about it. > > I conjunction with Andy Draper we have developed a modification to > replace the top engine cowl (with the standard cowl) and lower the fire > wall to the original height. This has proved to be remarkably easy. > See the attached photo. You can clearly see the 65mm gap between the > top frame and the lower moulding. The original upper and lower flanges > are now together (rather than attaching to the "high top" spacer). The > air vent was through the upper joint and will be completed in the new > joint. > > For anyone with a High top (or the six kits on order) I will be happy to > send a more detailed description of what has been done. Andy and Roger > both like the result and this could become the standard Hi/Lo top for > the future. > > The complication is that the result requires a screen 65mm vertically > deeper than the original. For this first prototype this can be made > from the LPAero screen blank. A better solution is to make a new mould > and I would like reactions from Hightop owners/builders to see if it is > worth investing in this mould. > > Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear > Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) > e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk > or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:36 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Hi/Lo No,because you can sit higher above the cowl. Graham Duncan & Ami McFadyean wrote: > > > Doesn't this mean that you merely see more of the top of the cowl, > rather than more countryside? > > Duncan McF. ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:23 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Digital level purchase in the UK Unfortunately Lidl don't have them up here in the Midlands Graham David Watts wrote: > Nigel, > > I put a similar message out back in the summer and they have had them > every since at various times. > > I bought several at the time for friends plus one for myself as a backup > to the one I already owned. I can report that it works just fine. > > Dave Watts > G-BXDY > > Anyone looking for a cheap digital level might be interested to know > that Lidl supermarket is selling these cheap at 25 at the moment. I > have bought one as a standby. I havent had a chance to try it out > properly yet. Its quoted with a resolution is 0.1 degree and a > precision of 0.3 degree. On a quick end to end check the accuracy > seems to be good for 0.1 degree. I would point out that I have never > heard of the make Powerfix and that these offers are for a very > limited time but for 25 I thought it worth a try. > > > > Nigel > > * > > > * > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 02:31:29 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? I have a marine digital compass in addition to the normal standby compass. It is well damped and sure that it thinks it is accurate. But it isn't. The self compensating feature doesn't seem to do much either. It would probably benefit greatly from a remote sensor. Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: "GLENN CROWDER" Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: Europa-List: Anybody using a flux gate compass instead of a DG? > > > I would like to replace my ailing DG with an in-dash flux gate compass. > My compass is so tiny and hard to read I never look at it other than to > set the DG. I don't see any point of having a DG if it could be replaced > by a large readable in-dash compass. The only flux gate compasses I > can find are those made for boating. Here is one possibility: > http://www.nasamarine.com/Instruments/clippercompass.html > It even has a handy steer to course function. This unit is 110 mm sq > so is a little large but sure looks easy to read! > > Glenn > > _________________________________________________________________ > Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > > > ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 03:05:18 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little aprehensious but will probably be just fine. There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but they can sure cause other bad things. Tom On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > > > > Hi Tom - The mono with the 8.00 x 6 could be slightly easier to land (its > very easy now and > I'm a very low time tail dragger pilot) with a little higher deck angle. > This should allow the a/c to be > more stalled when the main wheel contacts which could reduce the minor > bouncing you get if > you land a little too flat. Its not even a problem now, its just the > technique you learn. If you > find yourself bouncing your landings, you just didn't land with the tail > quite low enough. I rarely > get any bounce at all except maybe in gusty conditions. > Does it look like the tire could contact the landing gear frame in a > slightly sideways landing? > How much clearance is there at 18 psi? > > Glenn > > >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> > >To: europa-list@matronics.com > >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:06:58 -0800 > > > >Hi Glen > > > >Hmm, not quite flying yet so can't answer some Q's. No rubbing with > >retraction. Prop clearance difference? Don't know because I didn't have > a > >prop then but geometry says that it must be increased! Tire pressure? > >I'll > >probably start out with about 18psi. Have you other suggestions? > > > >Tom N96V > > > >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > >> > gcrowder2@hotmail.com> > >> > >>Hi Tom - What tire pressure do you use and have you experienced any > >>rubbing > >>on undercarraige components? Did it give you any more prop clearance? > >>Inquiring minds yada yada! > >> > >> Glenn > >> > >> >From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> > >> >To: europa-list@matronics.com > >> >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:01:57 -0800 > >> > > >> >Hi Glen > >> > > >> >I have a 800 - 6 in my mono. It was a tight fit. > >> > > >> >Tom Friedland > >> > > >> > > >> >On 1/25/07, GLENN CROWDER wrote: > >> >> > >>gcrowder2@hotmail.com> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>I use the same tire on my EA81 powered mono, very happy with it so > >>far. I > >> >>might be > >> >>inclined to try a McCreary 8.00 x 6 if I knew it would fit and get a > >> >>smidgen > >> >>more ground > >> >>clearance, maybe even allow a 68" prop for more efficiency. > >> >> > >> >> Glenn > >> >> > >> >> >From: John & Paddy Wigney > >> >> >To: ptiller@lolacars.com, Europa-List > >> >> >Subject: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre > >> >> >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 11:33:10 -0500 > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >Hi Phil, > >> >> > > >> >> >FWIW, I have used a McCreary Air Trac, 7.00-6, 6 ply with very > >> >> >satisfactory service. Total time is 520 hours over 5 years and > >> >> >approximately 760 landings. The majority have been on asphalt with > >>just > >> >>a > >> >> >few on grass. I keep my tire at 18-20 psi. Higher pressures tend to > >>make > >> >> >for 'squirelly' landings on asphalt. I will be replacing the tire > >>with > >> >>an > >> >> >identical tire when I do my annual in a month or so because of > >>uniform > >> >> >tread wear. The grooves are still showing but there not much to go. > >> >> > > >> >> >It is possible that you may have trouble with clearance in the > tunnel > >>if > >> >> >you use a larger tire. Also, I do not think the Turf Glide was > >>designed > >> >>for > >> >> >aircraft use and wear may be a problem. > >> >> > > >> >> >Cheers, John > >> >> > > >> >> >N262WF, mono XS, 912S > >> >> >Mooresville, North Carolina > >> >> > > >> >> >******************* > >> >> > > >> >> >>From "flyingphil2" > >> >> >I've acquired yet more wheels and tyres and so need to decide on > one. > >> >> >Given a choice of the following main mono tyres, which do the > >> >> >'mono-drivers' on this list recommend? > >> >> >a. 7.00-6 McCreary Air Trac, 6 ply > >> >> >b. 8.00-6 Titan Turf Glide, 4 ply (this appears to be > >>identical > >> >>in > >> >> >appearance and spec to the Carlisle 'Turf Glide' so I guess > Carlisle > >> >>took > >> >> >on the production). > >> >> >My guess is to stick with the McCreary that has already been > >> >>recommended. > >> >> >What do others think? ******************* > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >>_________________________________________________________________ > >> >>Get Hilary Duff's homepage with her photos, music, and more. > >> >>http://celebrities.live.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Get in the mood for Valentine's Day. 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Last time I tried a Europa landing on tarmac I ended up essing down the runway. (My previous landing was 5 years earlier. Graham Tom Friedland wrote: > I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan > Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little > aprehensious but will probably be just fine. > > There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the > tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but > they can sure cause other bad things. > > Tom ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 08:53:48 PM PST US From: "GLENN CROWDER" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre Geez Graham, I'm not saying you're wrong but I just can't fathom what you're referring to. I did a few swerved landings when I was first training on the mono but really none since then for several hundred landings. Every time I hear this stuff I get really tensed up for the next flying session and wait for bad things to happen but it always floats in like a pussycat with no theatrics required. Most landings I don't touch the pedals at all, maybe slight pressures. Maybe you were flying a poor example or I'm flying a very good example, just makes no sense! Possibly your a/c was much lighter than mine. I can see where that could be an explanation. Glenn >From: Graham Singleton >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Main monowheel tyre >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:51:51 +0000 > > > >Tom >you were obviously very well trained, I would love to have flown a DC3, a >most admirable airplane. You will however need to be very quick on the >pedals with the Europa. It's not like a long wing glider, unless you are >lucky and have the long wings. You need to read its mind and react before >it does then avoid overcontrolling. >Currency is the key, I know I'm not current any more. Last time I tried a >Europa landing on tarmac I ended up essing down the runway. (My previous >landing was 5 years earlier. >Graham > >Tom Friedland wrote: >>I have over 2000 hours of tailwheel time in Cessna 140s up to DeHavilan >>Otters and some in a DC 3 but none for 40 years... I am a little >>aprehensious but will probably be just fine. >> There is over an inch of clearance from the tire to the sides of the >>tunnel so misalined landings should not cause rubbing or binding but they >>can sure cause other bad things. >> Tom > > _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.