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1. 07:47 AM - Anyone support 914 fuel lines off airbox? ()
2. 08:03 AM - coolant (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk)
3. 09:21 AM - Cooler exhaust and better radiation of radiator? ()
4. 01:16 PM - Re: coolant (Brian Long)
5. 01:29 PM - Re: coolant (Gilles Thesee)
6. 01:46 PM - Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation (Paul Sistern)
7. 01:53 PM - Re: coolant (Brian Long)
8. 03:50 PM - Re: First Annual Europa Fly-In (rlborger)
9. 04:17 PM - Re: Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation (Graham Singleton)
10. 04:22 PM - Re: Re: First Annual Europa Fly-In (Graham Singleton)
11. 09:55 PM - Re: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 (GLENN CROWDER)
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| Subject: | Anyone support 914 fuel lines off airbox? |
Anyone support 914 fuel lines off airbox?
By chance have a picture or description how you did it?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
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Hi All,
Just removed the engine for Mod 72. I fitted G.S's firewall
mod, and I must say sealed it up beautifully :-) . Cutting away the
silicon sealant to get at the bottom bolts out was a b**ger. Shame mod
72 didn't come out two months ago before I fitted the engine. "Thats
life". Anyway while I'm at it I decided to replace the Evans coolant
with 50/50 antifreeze. Question one, Can I flush the engine out with
just water, or is there something else I should use. Two Any particular
antifreeze I should use.
Cheers Danny
XS tri gear G-c.e.r.i.
P.s I have fitted the a coolant gauge
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| Subject: | Cooler exhaust and better radiation of radiator? |
Hmmm
Heard about this Company that has been coating 914 downpipes, collector
and mufflers that supposedly is holding up very good compared to some
other Companies that have less than stellar results.
They said they could do Turbo as well (have not done a 914 turbo), boy an
air cooled turbo??
It will keep temps. down on exhaust. Use the 2000 degree coating. Rotax
certified installs often use wrapped exhausts, pain to inspect for cracks
(pipes and wrap need to come off) and wrap is heavier.
I see that they can apply a thermal dispersant as well, he said that he
could do an Intercooler and a Europa Radiator.
http://www.performancecoatings.com/
I may well be a taker on both. Any brave souls wanna let me know how it
works out?
Ron Parigoris
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Evans supplies a wash out chemical that must be used to rid the system of
any trace of water or other coolant. No water is allowed to exist in the
system before filling with Evans.
----- Original Message -----
From: <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: Europa-List: coolant
> <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
>
> Hi All,
> Just removed the engine for Mod 72. I fitted G.S's firewall mod,
> and I must say sealed it up beautifully :-) . Cutting away the silicon
> sealant to get at the bottom bolts out was a b**ger. Shame mod 72 didn't
> come out two months ago before I fitted the engine. "Thats life". Anyway
> while I'm at it I decided to replace the Evans coolant with 50/50
> antifreeze. Question one, Can I flush the engine out with just water, or
> is there something else I should use. Two Any particular antifreeze I
> should use.
>
> Cheers Danny
> XS tri gear G-c.e.r.i.
>
> P.s I have fitted the a coolant gauge
>
>
>
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Brian Long a crit :
> No water is allowed to exist in the system before filling with Evans.
Brian and all,
Danny is intending to remove the Evans and revert to 50/50.
No problem in this case, the Evans (propylene glycol) is water soluble.
Funnily, I seem to remember that some other coolant manufacturers see no
problem in mixing propylene glycol with water ???
Regards,
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation |
As a follow up to the above posts I have been corresponding with Floscan on the
subject of ScubaSteve in Florida. He offers a 201B-9 transducer, which you might
think is similar to the 201A-6 or 201B-6 transducer that is designed for aircraft
use. It is not. Floscan tell me it is in fact a 20B marine transducer.
And of course, the cheaper 231 is a marine transducer too.
What are the group's thoughts on using marine sensors on their aircraft engines.
If I am to offer the genuine aviation 201A transducer on my website it is likely
to retail at about GBP 165.00 incl. based on a current quote from Floscan.
Any feedback very gratefully received.
Regards,
Paul
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91670#91670
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My mistake. I believe Evans main reasoning is corrosion related.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gilles Thesee" <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: coolant
> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
>
> Brian Long a crit :
>> No water is allowed to exist in the system before filling with Evans.
>
> Brian and all,
>
> Danny is intending to remove the Evans and revert to 50/50.
> No problem in this case, the Evans (propylene glycol) is water soluble.
> Funnily, I seem to remember that some other coolant manufacturers see no
> problem in mixing propylene glycol with water ???
>
> Regards,
> Gilles
> http://contrails.free.fr
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Annual Europa Fly-In |
Paul, Alan & other Europaphiles,
I love the idea of an annual Europa Fly-In. Kentucky sounds great
but the date won't work this year as I already have plans for that
period. Perhaps next year. Same for Sun 'n' Fun this year. We need
to set it up a good year in advance so that we can be sure to leave
the date open. Personally, I really don't care where we hold it. I
just hope that N914XL is flying by that time!
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar
in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear
complete. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 30 Fuel
System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster
arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit
has arrived. Installing the ROTAX 914.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation |
Paul
I doubt there is any difference other than flow rate, even marine ones
aren't designed to run on or in sea water. Probably just a matter of
certification. In other words protection money for burocrats. (imho)
Graham
Paul Sistern wrote:
> What are the group's thoughts on using marine sensors on their
aircraft engines.
>
> If I am to offer the genuine aviation 201A transducer on my website it is likely
to retail at about GBP 165.00 incl. based on a current quote from Floscan.
>
> Any feedback very gratefully received.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
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| Subject: | Re: First Annual Europa Fly-In |
Bpb
Rough River is where the canard boys, (me too) go in early October. That
event is a real buzz and that's what I suspect Paul is trying to achieve
for the Europa family. It's a super venue and once you have a group
of experienced flyers gathered it adds up to a fabulous occasion.
Graham
rlborger wrote:
> Paul, Alan & other Europaphiles,
>
> I love the idea of an annual Europa Fly-In. Kentucky sounds great but
> the date won't work this year as I already have plans for that period.
> Perhaps next year. Same for Sun 'n' Fun this year. We need to set it
> up a good year in advance so that we can be sure to leave the date
> open. Personally, I really don't care where we hold it. I just hope
> that N914XL is flying by that time!
>
> Good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
> (85%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
> system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
> Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in,
> flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear
> complete. Working in - 24 Instrument Panel, 25 Electrical, 30 Fuel
> System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Airmaster
> arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has
> arrived. Installing the ROTAX 914.
> 3705 Lynchburg Dr.
> Corinth, TX 76208
> Home: 940-497-2123
> Cel: 817-992-1117
>
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Graham Singleton
Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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| Subject: | Re: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100 |
Hi Jeff - I finally got your panel pic to download. What a beautiful panel
and interior.
Looks like a Ferrari in there (or at least a Lexus) with all that leather
and woodgrain!
You gotta be nuts to be selling that thing!
Seriously tho, have you had any situations where the Trutrac got upset or
confused
like greater than 60 deg banks? Would you recommend the GPS mod? What does
the GPS mod really do for you? Thanks!
Glenn
>From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trutrac ADI looks good for $1100
>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:19:43 -0600
>
>Glenn,
>I purchased one of the first ones to come out and have been using it since
>last spring. It works great! I bought the internal GPS so your heading is
>right on track even on the ground as long as you have a shot of the
>satellites. You can also set it close to the stall as you like and it will
>start flashing to warn you. Go more than a 45 degree bank and red arrows
>will tell you which way to point the stick. It's all good, especially for
>the money. Here is a picture of it in my panel. As you can tell I highly
>recommend it.
>Best Regards
>Jeff Roberts
>N128LJ / Gold Rush... Flying and for sale.
>
><< Panel2.JPG >>
>
>
>On Jan 26, 2007, at 11:21 AM, GLENN CROWDER wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I just found the Trutrac ADI with attitude indicator, DG track, and
>>actual
>>bank angle indicator (not turn rate). Looks pretty good for $1100. You
>>can also get it with built in autopilot. Anybody using one? Looks like
>>they're
>>coming out with a Dynon type unit as well.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>>http://www.trutrakflightsystems.com/
>>
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