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Fri 02/02/07


Total Messages Posted: 14



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:10 AM - 914 / spark plugs? (Gert Dalgaard)
     2. 02:22 AM - Re: Alternative Mod 72 (Mike Gamble)
     3. 02:25 AM - Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation (Paul Sistern)
     4. 02:28 AM - Re: remote oil press sensor (William Mills)
     5. 04:11 AM - Re: remote oil press sensor (Paul Stewart)
     6. 04:59 AM - Re: First Annual Europa Fly in (h&jeuropa)
     7. 05:36 AM - Re: 914 / spark plugs? (ivor.phillips)
     8. 06:28 AM - Re: Alternative Mod 72 (Robert Borger)
     9. 06:59 AM - DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester (Paddy Clarke)
    10. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: First Annual Europa Fly in (Jeff B)
    11. 09:45 AM - Re: First Annual Europa Fly in (JEFF ROBERTS)
    12. 11:07 AM - Oil press variation (William Daniell)
    13. 11:20 AM - Re: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester (Pete Lawless)
    14. 01:12 PM - Re: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:10:12 AM PST US
    From: Gert Dalgaard <lgds@post6.tele.dk>
    Subject: 914 / spark plugs?
    Hi Any one know where I can find information about which spark plugs (brand / type) may be used in my Rotax 914? Can only find one old SI on the Rotax data base saying something about this issue - and that is SI-15-1997. I have until now used Denso's X27EPR-U9, but now I have access to plugs from NGK etc. Regards Gert Gert Dalgaard Soerensen Stabelvej 9, Haarby DK 8660 Skanderborg Denmark Europa builder No. 151 Europa Mono / Rotax 914 AC reg.: OY-GDS Phone.: +45 8695 0595 E mail: lgds@post6.tele.dk


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    Time: 02:22:21 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Mod 72
    What size hole does a 16.5mm reamer produce then? ----- Original Message ----- From: SPurpura@aol.com To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alternative Mod 72 Try 3/4" o.d. cold rolled solid rod,very close fit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 01/02/2007 14:28


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    Time: 02:25:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fuel Flow Instrumentation
    From: "Paul Sistern" <paul@sistern.freeserve.co.uk>
    I am very grateful for all the views expressed by Europa owners (and list readers) regarding the Floscan transducers, on this list and in private messages. The only conclusion I can make so far is that Floscan make transducers specifically for aircraft and in general for boats, and anything else. Floscan quote a range of specifications, but the principal and the design of the transducer remains the same. The primary feature (for us and in the UK, the PFA) being that it can not be blocked if the rotor jams. All of their products, marine and aviation, claim the same accuracy, ie a repeatability between measurements of 1/4% at a flow rate of 16 (US)GPH. The different models, within specific ranges, are there to accomodate the flow range (min to max flow quoted in US GPH) Since PFA permit aircraft do not require certified parts and the approval is gained by acceptance, the use of the far more expensive 200 series aviation transducer, seems, on the face of it, to be unnecessary. And some of you have told me that the PFA have indeed approved instalations using the marine transducer. I'm continuing to research this, and I have approached PFA Engineering, who have yet to respond. Does anyone have anything further to contribute? Regards and thanks, Paul Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92227#92227


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    Time: 02:28:08 AM PST US
    From: "William Mills" <william@wrmills.plus.com>
    Subject: Re: remote oil press sensor
    Hi Paul, I mounted the standard Rotax oil pressure sensor on the front of the stb footwell connected with a standard length of Europa oil hose to the crankcase orifice. I also trapped a 1 mm dia restrictor pellet in the line at the engine end, just in case of a major oil leak. I have never filled the line with oil or bled it and it still works OK. The reason for moving it is to insulate the sensor from engine vibration, which has caused sensors to fail on a number of engines, resulting in zero pressure reading at the gauge with associated pilot heart failure! I have never had one fail, so perhaps it is worth doing. I hope that doesn't sound like the man sprinkling Tiger Repellent Powder on the streets of London! Best wishes, William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: Europa-List: remote oil press sensor > > I know there was discussion about remote siting of the oil pressure > sensor to reduce wear in the NPT mounting screw. I need to do this to use > a slightly larger Westach version (won't quite fit next to CH). Can > anyone whose done it offer some details: > > How far away is the sensor mounted > > Type of hose, fittings etc. > > Does the connecting hose require filling with oil/bleeding > > Thanks in anticipation > > Paul > > G-GIDY > > >


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    Time: 04:11:18 AM PST US
    From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
    Subject: Re: remote oil press sensor
    Graham / William Thanks for the postings. My reason for moving it is because the Westach version is slightly wider than the VDO and fouls on the cylinder head. It gives me comfort that I'm safe from Tigers as a bye product Regards paul G-GIDY On 2 Feb 2007, at 10:20, William Mills wrote: > <william@wrmills.plus.com> > > Hi Paul, > I mounted the standard Rotax oil pressure sensor on the front of > the stb footwell connected with a standard length of Europa oil > hose to the crankcase orifice. I also trapped a 1 mm dia > restrictor pellet in the line at the engine end, just in case of a > major oil leak. I have never filled the line with oil or bled it > and it still works OK. > The reason for moving it is to insulate the sensor from engine > vibration, which has caused sensors to fail on a number of engines, > resulting in zero pressure reading at the gauge with associated > pilot heart failure! > I have never had one fail, so perhaps it is worth doing. I hope > that doesn't sound like the man sprinkling Tiger Repellent Powder > on the streets of London! > Best wishes, > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Stewart" > <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> > To: <europa-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:44 PM > Subject: Europa-List: remote oil press sensor > > >> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com> >> >> I know there was discussion about remote siting of the oil >> pressure sensor to reduce wear in the NPT mounting screw. I need >> to do this to use a slightly larger Westach version (won't quite >> fit next to CH). Can anyone whose done it offer some details: >> >> How far away is the sensor mounted >> >> Type of hose, fittings etc. >> >> Does the connecting hose require filling with oil/bleeding >> >> Thanks in anticipation >> >> Paul >> >> G-GIDY >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 04:59:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: First Annual Europa Fly in
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <europa@triton.net>
    It would be great if there were Europa Fly In's on various dates in many different places around the country. That would give those who are flying trips to plan and those who are building a close by get together. If you'd like a Fly In near you, set it up. We're sure lots of folks will come. Jim & Heather N241BW Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92237#92237


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    Time: 05:36:33 AM PST US
    From: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: 914 / spark plugs?
    Hi Gert Up to the end of last year NGK didn't do a spark plug with the correct heat range for the 914, unless they have introduced a specific plug I would stay with the Denso one, Regards Ivor Subject: Europa-List: 914 / spark plugs? Hi Any one know where I can find information about which spark plugs (brand / type) may be used in my Rotax 914? Can only find one old SI on the Rotax data base saying something about this issue - and that is SI-15-1997. I have until now used Denso's X27EPR-U9, but now I have access to plugs from NGK etc. Regards Gert Gert Dalgaard Soerensen Stabelvej 9, Haarby DK 8660 Skanderborg Denmark Europa builder No. 151 Europa Mono / Rotax 914 AC reg.: OY-GDS Phone.: +45 8695 0595 E mail: lgds@post6.tele.dk


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    Time: 06:28:25 AM PST US
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Alternative Mod 72
    Brian, If you can hold off for a week or two, I should have my Mod 72 package soon. I plan to post pics and specs: length, diameter, wall thickness, etc. on my build web site. And a 16.5 mm reamer is 0.6496 in. or not quite 21/32 (0.65625) and 5/8 at 0.625 is too small. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger


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    Time: 06:59:16 AM PST US
    From: Paddy Clarke <paddyclarke@lineone.net>
    Subject: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester
    Hi Folks, It should be a great day tomorrow (Saturday 3rd.), so how about a DOTH. There a good selection of free landings this month including rarities such as Oxford and Kemble, but it has to be said they are mostly in the south - so how about Leicester?. 1200 ish, voucher in Pilot, Cheers, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM


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    Time: 07:29:54 AM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: First Annual Europa Fly in
    Paul and I are hoping that the Europa Fly-in catches on, in the US, thus producing several events each year. Lots of you folks are EAA members and attend EAA sponsored fly-in, every year. Why not add to the calendar with a few Europa specific fly-ins (all others invited, of course). It's a great excuse to get out and fly... Jeff - Baby Blue 252 hours h&amp;jeuropa wrote: > > It would be great if there were Europa Fly In's on various dates in many different places around the country. That would give those who are flying trips to plan and those who are building a close by get together. If you'd like a Fly In near you, set it up. We're sure lots of folks will come. > > Jim & Heather > N241BW > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92237#92237 > > >


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    Time: 09:45:19 AM PST US
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
    Subject: Re: First Annual Europa Fly in
    Gentlemen, Unless the sky falls... Count on me being there! Jeff A258 N128LJ Gold Rush On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > <paul.mcallister@qia.net> > > Hi all, > > When I was at Sun =91n Fun last year Jeff and I got to talking and > thought > that there were enough Europa aircraft now flying in the US for us to > get > together for an annual fly in. I have got together with Jeff and over > the > last few months we have researched venues and potential times. > > Jeff and I would like to invite the Europa community to join us at > Rough > River, Kentucky for an informal get together of flyers, builders and > aviation buffs from August 31 to September 2, 2007 > > Rough River is part of the Kentucky State Park system with its own > airport > (2I3), camping facilities and a lodge, which is walking distance from > the > airport. The lodge offers both rooms and cabin style accommodation. > > Rough River offers walking trails, fishing, beach, golfing and a large > marina that has rental craft of all sizes available. > > At the time of writing plenty of accommodation is available, however > this > quickly fills as the weather warms up. > > For more in Rough River take a look at > > http://parks.ky.gov/resortparks/rr/ > http://www.roughriverlaketourism.com/acc.htm > http://www.airnav.com/airport/2I3 > http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.609777%2C > -86.506925&spn=0.0124,0.0124&q=37 > .609777%2C-86.506925%20(2I3) > > > For reservations call 800-325-1713 > > Please let me or Jeff know if you are contemplating attending. It > would > help us better plan the event if we have an approximate head count. > > Jeff can be contacted at topglock@cox.net > Paul can be contacted at paul.mcallister@qia.net > > Paul & Jeff > > PS Please pass this onto anyone you know who is not on the Europa forum > list. > > Jeff Roberts RMMM Roberts Marketing & Media Management 615-355-7575 Office 615-406-8651 Cell


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    Time: 11:07:42 AM PST US
    From: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
    Subject: Oil press variation
    The oil pressure on my 912 varies when cold I "burp" the engine by hand, check the oil level and start. The oil press goes up to 5-6 bar for 2 minutes then drops to 1 bar for 5-7 minutes and then rises to 5-6 bar where it stays. I have changed the pressure sensor. Any ideas? Thanks Will


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    Time: 11:20:32 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester
    Hi Paddy Kemble has no restaurant until next Monday. Don't think I can get a day pass tomorrow so have fun. Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Clarke Sent: 02 February 2007 14:58 Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester Hi Folks, It should be a great day tomorrow (Saturday 3rd.), so how about a DOTH. There a good selection of free landings this month including rarities such as Oxford and Kemble, but it has to be said they are mostly in the south - so how about Leicester?. 1200 ish, voucher in Pilot, Cheers, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 01:12:29 PM PST US
    From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester
    May well join you if the fog is quick to clear. Duncan Mcf do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paddy Clarke" <paddyclarke@lineone.net> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sat.3rd Leicester > > Hi Folks, > It should be a great day tomorrow (Saturday 3rd.), so how about a > DOTH. There a good selection of free landings this month including > rarities such as Oxford and Kemble, but it has to be said they are > mostly in the south - so how about Leicester?. 1200 ish, voucher in > Pilot, > Cheers, Paddy > > > Paddy Clarke > > Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM > > > > > > >




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