---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/15/07: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:03 AM - Re: Rotax rubber carb flanges (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 2. 07:02 AM - Re: mod 72 (rick) 3. 07:45 AM - Re: mod 72 (Trevpond@aol.com) 4. 09:16 AM - UK builders only (Karl Heindl) 5. 11:07 AM - Re: mod 72 (Richard Collings) 6. 11:40 AM - Re: Tow Bars (steve v) 7. 11:57 AM - Re: UK builders only (steve v) 8. 05:35 PM - Mono-Wheel Europa's In Vicinity of Atlanta (Steve Crimm) 9. 05:48 PM - FAA Funding Debate (Steve Crimm) 10. 07:21 PM - Re: Mono-Wheel Europa's In Vicinity of Atlanta (kbcarpenter@comcast.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:41 AM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax rubber carb flanges Are the cheaper versions Kevlar reinforced (as are the Rota replacement versions)? Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: nigel charles To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: Europa-List: Rotax rubber carb flanges Anyone with a Rotax engine over 5 years old should be considering changing the rubber carb flanges as they have been known to split with age. The cost of these from Rotax is rather excessive at over =A350 each. Aerosport UK sell the Mikuni version (which are effectively identical) for under =A324. They also come with the spacer tube preventing overtightening. Refer to website page http://www.aerosportuk.com/acatalog/Aerosport_Shop_Carburettor_Flange_37. html.# Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:21 AM PST US From: "rick" Subject: RE: Europa-List: mod 72 Sounds good to me. Rick G-RIKS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: 15 February 2007 06:54 Subject: Europa-List: mod 72 While I do not mean to denigrate in any way the various approaches which have been suggested to deal w/ the structural deficiency which mod 72 is intended to correct, what comes up for me is an appreciation of the amount of work which Europa04 has done to ensure the integrity of the aircraft. I'm imagining the design calculations, the paperwork for the PFA, and testing and the real costs associated therewith. The costs of the hardware is negligible. My concern is that I think the Europa design loses value if there is an awareness in the experimental/homebuilt aircraft community that the engine mounting frames were cracking and guys took it upon themselves to install one or another kind of a fix of their own design. it seems to me that it would be far more preferable for the story to be that there were some failures in the engine mount, the problem was addressed by E04, a fix was designed, tested, and approved, and every Europa flying has had the mod installed. I feel it is a huge benefit to me that E04 exists and continues to service the design and kits sold by the predecessor company; I want to support them to remain in business, and I don't begrudge them the 15 pounds for a couple of sleeves. ...just my 2 cents (or 15 pounds) worth of opinion.... Fred A194 -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:53 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: mod 72 Quite right Fred. Trev Pond G-LINN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:49 AM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: Europa-List: UK builders only In case anyone is interested, LIDL are now selling the digital level for 12.49 pounds. _________________________________________________________________ Upload 500 photos a month & blog with your Messenger buddies on Windows Live Spaces. Get yours now, FREE! http://specials.uk.msn.com/spaces/default.aspx ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:15 AM PST US From: "Richard Collings" Subject: Re: Europa-List: mod 72 I would also like to put my 2 pence in , it strikes me that a lot of members/owner don't appreciate the work that Europa 04 does and waste an awful lot of time trying to reinvent the wheel so to speak! If you have any doubts regarding Mod 72 why not ring Roger at E04 he won't bit! Richard Collings Kit 458 with an awfull lot to do. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rick" Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:00 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: mod 72 > > Sounds good to me. > > > Rick > G-RIKS > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein > Sent: 15 February 2007 06:54 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: mod 72 > > > While I do not mean to denigrate in any way the various approaches which > have been suggested to deal w/ the structural deficiency which mod 72 is > intended to correct, what comes up for me is an appreciation of the amount > of work which Europa04 has done to ensure the integrity of the aircraft. > I'm > imagining the design calculations, the paperwork for the PFA, and testing > and the real costs associated therewith. The costs of the hardware is > negligible. > > My concern is that I think the Europa design loses value if there is an > awareness in the experimental/homebuilt aircraft community that the engine > mounting frames were cracking and guys took it upon themselves to install > one or another kind of a fix of their own design. it seems to me that it > would be far more preferable for the story to be that there were some > failures in the engine mount, the problem was addressed by E04, a fix was > designed, tested, and approved, and every Europa flying has had the mod > installed. > > I feel it is a huge benefit to me that E04 exists and continues to service > the design and kits sold by the predecessor company; I want to support > them > to remain in business, and I don't begrudge them the 15 pounds for a > couple > of sleeves. > > ...just my 2 cents (or 15 pounds) worth of opinion.... > > Fred > A194 > > > -- > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:40:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tow Bars From: "steve v " OK, i will ring the PFA here in the UK to get their verbal opinion B4 i go any further, steve #573 Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK builders only From: "steve v " well, im going to have another glass of red wine and try to forget that i paid 110 UK pounds for mine! steve v. #573 Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:19 PM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: Europa-List: Mono-Wheel Europa's In Vicinity of Atlanta I would like to know how many flying mono-wheel Europa's there are within the Atlanta area, let's say 250 miles. Steve N42AH For Sale www.stephenscott.com/Europa ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:52 PM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: Europa-List: FAA Funding Debate While this may be off topic, this is a very important issue that will effect all of us aviating on this side of the pond and needs your help and support. Even better for this issue, is the fact that those not flying in the US can advice us on the similar expenses that they incur while flying in their part of the world. Thanks for your patience Steve Crimm N42AH For Sale www.stephenscott.com/Europa The below is something I received earlier today. The most dire challenge to hit General Aviation since 9/11 is now upon us. The FAA, Airlines, and White House propose to raise our already high cost of flying. What can I do? Do your Homework: Learn all you can about what is proposed and it's impact on air safety, equal access to aviation services, higher costs for GA, reduction or Loss of congressional oversight... The list goes on... Go to: http://www.aopa.org/faafundingdebate/ to learn more. FIGHT!: Write your Representative and Senator. Not tomorrow, Today! http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm http://www.house.gov/zip/ZIP2Rep.html Attend an EAA Meeting and an AOPA Town Hall. Bring up User Fees. Get the media on our side. Educate them on the dangers of this plan and it's potential impact. Talk to your fine flying friends! Use every resource and forum you can access to bring up the issue and spread the word that we MUST contact our elected officials and fight the big Airlines and FAA proposal to infringe on our access to the skies! Lets conduct this grass roots campaign to keep aviation safe and accessible to all Americans. AOPA President Phil Boyer said: "This proposal is nothing more than a cynical attempt to shift FAA costs to a different set of taxpayers, and to take control of the agency away from Congress and put it in the hands of unelected bureaucrats and airline executives." EAA Vice-President of Government Relations, Doug Macnair said: "DOT and FAA have attempted to distract from the user fee issue in their public statements by saying that revenue from general aviation would continue to be collected via a fuel tax, but they failed to acknowledge that the fuel tax would be increased dramatically and a whole series of user fees would be implemented for FAA services that today do not carry a charge." -- ____________________________________________________________ Steve Crimm - BIT, CDIA+, OCSA, OCWA Stephen Scott & Associates, Inc. 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Thank You ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:58 PM PST US From: kbcarpenter@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono-Wheel Europa's In Vicinity of Atlanta I am in Knoxville, TN with N 9XS. ken carpenter -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Steve Crimm" I would like to know how many flying mono-wheel Europa's there are within the Atlanta area, let's say 250 miles. Steve N42AH For Sale www.stephenscott.com/Europa
I am in Knoxville, TN with N 9XS.
ken carpenter
 
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From: "Steve Crimm" <steve.crimm@stephenscott.com>
I would like to know how many flying mono-wheel Europa's there are within the Atlanta area, let's say 250 miles.
 
Steve
N42AH
For Sale
 
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