---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/10/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:18 AM - DOTH Sun 11th Panshanger (Paddy Clarke) 2. 08:08 AM - Jab power (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com) 3. 12:43 PM - Just like to say thanks... (steve v) 4. 01:41 PM - Re: Just like to say thanks... (karelvranken) 5. 02:07 PM - Re: Just like to say thanks... (NevEyre@aol.com) 6. 03:09 PM - Re: She's Legal to Fly! (Rman) 7. 07:08 PM - Re: She's Legal to Fly! (Alan Burrows) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:10 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Sun 11th Panshanger Hi Folks, Spring is sprung, the grass is ris - and my flying strip has dried out, so it's time for a DOTH. How about Panshanger, 1200ish ?. It's possible it may be a bit cross-windy. If I don't fancy it, I'll divert to Wycombe. Voucher for both in Flyer. Cheers, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa XS - 404 G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:32 AM PST US From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Jab power In a message dated 3/9/2007 2:59:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, europa-list@matronics.com writes: I would very much like to see your photos when you're back in Tennessee. Up to now I've had very little to do with Jab's but have lived with a Lycoming for a while in my Long EZ. The EZ crowd have done a lot of development and testing with some success. There are some guys near me who recently bought a Europa with a Jab and aren't having much luck with it, quite apart from the overheating there isn't much power either, 300 fpm climb rate! Not a lot of use, bye for now Graham Hello Graham, Back in Tennessee now. I'll put together some photo's and shoot them out to everyone who as asked later today. In regard to their Jab not producing adequate power, there are several things they should check. Most of these are pretty obvious and I might be telling you something you already know, but here goes. The first thing I'd look at is the intake manifold and make sure it's not leaking air. There are rubber boots that are held in place with hose clamps on the various intake pipes that could be leaking. Also, have them check the distribution block on the bottom of the engine where the intake tubes meet. These are sealed in with RTV and could be leaking. Next, if they haven't already done so, check the valve tappet clearance. Improperly set valves will significantly reduce power and if allowed to run for extended periods will ruin the heads. A compression check will tell them if the valves and or valve seats are burnt and leaking. Next, check the needle jet and make sure it's up to current standards. The Jabiru factory website has the details on this. They should be running a 286 needle jet and the Jabiru "stepped" needle. The engine supposedly dyno's at 127 hp with this set up. Fuel consumption is considerably lower with the Jab needle arrangement compared to the stock Bing needle, too. If they have an older Jab, they probably have the stock Bing needle and jet. Also, have them check the choke spring and make sure the choke is returning to completely off. The choke spring sent on the Bing carby is weak. Some guys replace them with stronger springs, some put a second spring on to help it return. I preheat, so I never have to use choke, but I have noticed when I tested the setup that mine won't return to completely off with just the spring tension. Lastly, check to make sure their prop isn't overpitched. I've found that I can easily overpitch my prop and it won't make sufficient power. I've found it's a fine line between proper cruise pitch and overpitched. An overpitched prop will also make the engine run hotter. Something is obviously very wrong if they're only seeing 300 fpm climb. This, coupled with the overheating leads me to believe that they are running lean. The color of the spark plugs should tell the story. I'm seeing 1800 fpm from take off (700' msl) to about 6000' agl with two on board and a mid cruise pitch. My oil temps never go above 190F and my CHT's run in the 250F-280F range in cruise, well within the normal operating range. Anyway, hope it helps! Regards, John Lawton Dunlap, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:21 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Just like to say thanks... From: "steve v " Hi , Just like to say a big thank you to Nev.,Andy, all the people on the forum and the factory for all the help over the last four years, G-CEBV Europa Trigear #573 took off at 15.10 on the 9 march in the capable hands of Timm Cripps to complete one circuit and land, she then flew another hour and a quarter to petty much all the numbers that are quoted in the handbook. shes a bit of a fat lady at 878 pounds empty, but hey, all the curves are in the right place! anyway, thanks again for all the support over the years, stephen vestuti #573 G-CEBV. Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:36 PM PST US From: "karelvranken" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Just like to say thanks... Congratulations Stephen. Now your are one of them. Finally how many are they, still grinning? Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL ----- Original Message ----- From: "steve v " Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 9:40 PM Subject: Europa-List: Just like to say thanks... > > Hi , > Just like to say a big thank you to Nev.,Andy, all the people on the forum > and the factory for all the help over the last four years, G-CEBV Europa > Trigear #573 took off at 15.10 on the 9 march in the capable hands of Timm > Cripps to complete one circuit and land, she then flew another hour and a > quarter to petty much all the numbers that are quoted in the handbook. > shes a bit of a fat lady at 878 pounds empty, but hey, all the curves are > in the right place! anyway, thanks again for all the support over the > years, > > stephen vestuti #573 G-CEBV. > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter 0 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter vandaag nog! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:45 PM PST US From: NevEyre@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Just like to say thanks... Hi Steve, Well done ! All that blood, sweat and tears was worth it ? Have fun with it, keep grinning. Cheers, Nev. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:50 PM PST US From: Rman Subject: Re: Europa-List: She's Legal to Fly! Congratulations, Alan. Look forward to meeting you at SNF... Jeff - Baby Blue Alan Burrows wrote: > > After almost 4 months (three days short). we finally got an FAA > airworthiness certificate today. So we now have a new N number and are > legal to fly in the USA. Tomorrow I start to put everything back > together after the inspection and hopefully take to the skies. The > actual FAA inspection was a fairly painless experience consisting of > mainly paperwork checks. It actually proved a bit of an anti climax > after spending several days preparing for a full and in depth > inspection process. The main thing is we are now legal to fly. I just > gotta get used to the new N number instead of the G registration. > Anyone interested in the process of importing a home built aircraft > into the U.S contact me offline and I will be pleased to supply > details of how to do it and how NOT to do it, as we have become > experts of the last few months. Hope to see everyone at Sun n Fun. > > Cheers > > > > Alan > > N 134AB (gosh that sounds strange J > > > -- > 08/03/2007 10:58 > > > -- > 08/03/2007 10:58 > > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:35 PM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: She's Legal to Fly! Thanks Jeff, Kate & I will be there _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rman Sent: 10 March 2007 23:08 Subject: Re: Europa-List: She's Legal to Fly! Congratulations, Alan. Look forward to meeting you at SNF... Jeff - Baby Blue Alan Burrows wrote: After almost 4 months (three days short). we finally got an FAA airworthiness certificate today. So we now have a new N number and are legal to fly in the USA. Tomorrow I start to put everything back together after the inspection and hopefully take to the skies. The actual FAA inspection was a fairly painless experience consisting of mainly paperwork checks. It actually proved a bit of an anti climax after spending several days preparing for a full and in depth inspection process. The main thing is we are now legal to fly. I just gotta get used to the new N number instead of the G registration. Anyone interested in the process of importing a home built aircraft into the U.S contact me offline and I will be pleased to supply details of how to do it and how NOT to do it, as we have become experts of the last few months. Hope to see everyone at Sun n Fun. Cheers Alan N 134AB (gosh that sounds strange :-) -- 08/03/2007 10:58 -- 08/03/2007 10:58 _____ "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List"http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Europa-List -- 18:53 -- 18:53 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.