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1. 12:47 AM - Re: What epoxy should I be using (D Wysong)
2. 01:13 AM - Re: Re: MGS epoxy (Karl Heindl)
3. 08:40 AM - Wing root pitot static quick connects (John & Paddy Wigney)
4. 08:56 AM - Re: Wing root pitot static quick connects (josok)
5. 12:46 PM - carb and airbox drains (Paul Stewart)
6. 12:55 PM - Re: Re: MGS epoxy (D Wysong)
7. 01:38 PM - Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Andrew Sarangan)
8. 01:47 PM - Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Graham Singleton)
9. 02:52 PM - Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Pete Lawless)
10. 03:38 PM - Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Paul McAllister)
11. 04:18 PM - Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Andrew Sarangan)
12. 04:45 PM - Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Re: What epoxy should I be using |
> Epoxy mixes are not interchangeable. Different brands have different
> modulus of elasticity and other mechanical and thermal properties.
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> Aeropoxy is what the designers of the Europa chose and validated.
> Use something else and you are totally on your own.
True, but the 200 series of MGS resins/hardeners are a very
safe choice for any experimental aircraft.
The properties for MGS 2XX resin/hardener are actually a bit
better than the Aeropoxy spec'd for the Europa. As Graham
pointed out, MGS is used on several certified and
experimental aircraft. It is less viscous than most
systems, too, so wet out is much easier.
There was recently a HUGE problem getting MGS into the
states due to hazmat classification, though. Everything got
held up in Canada (all US bound MGS comes through Canada),
and Spruce shipments were running 6+ months late in some
instances. All should be well by now, but it's worth a
check before you order.
D
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Would you have any idea who the importer is in Canada ? Would it be Diamond
Aircraft ?
do not archive
>From: D Wysong <hdwysong@gmail.com>
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Re: What epoxy should I be using
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 02:48:54 -0600
>
>
>>Epoxy mixes are not interchangeable. Different brands have different
>>modulus of elasticity and other mechanical and thermal properties.
>>
>>Aeropoxy is what the designers of the Europa chose and validated.
>>Use something else and you are totally on your own.
>
>True, but the 200 series of MGS resins/hardeners are a very safe choice for
>any experimental aircraft.
>
>The properties for MGS 2XX resin/hardener are actually a bit better than
>the Aeropoxy spec'd for the Europa. As Graham pointed out, MGS is used on
>several certified and experimental aircraft. It is less viscous than most
>systems, too, so wet out is much easier.
>
>There was recently a HUGE problem getting MGS into the states due to hazmat
>classification, though. Everything got held up in Canada (all US bound MGS
>comes through Canada), and Spruce shipments were running 6+ months late in
>some instances. All should be well by now, but it's worth a check before
>you order.
>
>D
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing root pitot static quick connects |
Dear Europaphiles,
I am doing my annual inspection and yesterday when I took off my wings,
I noticed that one of the white plastic quick connects for the
pitot/static tubing at the wing root had fractured. Can anyone advise a
supplier of these items. I have poked around on the web at Aircraft
Spruce, Wicks, etc. but have not found anything yet.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: Wing root pitot static quick connects |
Did you try http://www.europa-aircraft.co.uk ? They do stock some items for us you know.
Kind Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | carb and airbox drains |
To where have folk run the lines from the carb drip trays and airbox
drain - 914?
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Re: MGS epoxy |
> Would you have any idea who the importer is in Canada?
> Would it be Diamond Aircraft ?
>
> do not archive
Sure, here's the link to the NA distributor for MGS:
http://www.airheart.on.ca/index.html
D
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with foam,
finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the foam
core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy tiny
lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
Any thoughts?
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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| Subject: | Re: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
Andrew
that might be a tedious way to do it, I would stick with the plans
method, I only had to drill 2 or 3 holes to balance. Long time ago that
was and my memory is not reliable after a few days ?;-)
Drilling lead is different though so experiment on a spare block of
lead, you might try a spade bit?
Graham
Andrew Sarangan wrote:
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> I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
> lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
>
> I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with foam,
> finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the foam
> core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy tiny
> lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
> drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
Hi Andrew
I remember it was a real pain drilling out lots of lead having painted
the ailerons. Then I reread the manual and found that you should do a
basic balance before painting. It is a long time ago and I am away from
home at the moment so can't check with the book. It was a question of
how you read the instructions I think.
Regards
Pete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Sarangan
Sent: 15 March 2007 20:38
Subject: Europa-List: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights
I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with foam,
finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the foam
core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy tiny
lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
Any thoughts?
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
Andrew, that is how i did it and it worked fine. - Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
Sarangan
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:38 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights
I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with foam,
finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the foam
core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy tiny
lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
Any thoughts?
Andrew Sarangan
http://www.sarangan.org
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
Paul
I am not sure if I understood your reply. Which method did you follow -
the procedure outlined in the manual, or the method of potting a foam
arm with lead balls?
--- Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net> wrote:
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
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> Andrew, that is how i did it and it worked fine. - Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sarangan
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:38 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights
>
>
> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
> lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
>
> I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with
> foam,
> finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the
> foam
> core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy
> tiny
> lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
> drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
>
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| Subject: | Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights |
lead shot
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
Sarangan
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights
Paul
I am not sure if I understood your reply. Which method did you follow -
the procedure outlined in the manual, or the method of potting a foam
arm with lead balls?
--- Paul McAllister <paul.mcallister@qia.net> wrote:
> <paul.mcallister@qia.net>
>
> Andrew, that is how i did it and it worked fine. - Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sarangan
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:38 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Thoughts on Aileron Balance Weights
>
>
> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
>
> I have seen several builders say that most of the aileron balancing
> lead ended up being drilled out, and that it was a laborious task.
>
> I am wondering if it would be better to build the entire arm with
> foam,
> finish and paint. Then drill some holes through the glass into the
> foam
> core and stick some lead balls and pot them in place. You can buy
> tiny
> lead balls by the pound, and it seems tome that I can avoid all that
> drilling and achieve a more accurate balance this way.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> Andrew Sarangan
> http://www.sarangan.org
>
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