---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/21/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:23 AM - Re: Re: Life is so unfair! (Michel AUVRAY) 2. 05:02 AM - Re: Life is so unfair! (Kingsley Hurst) 3. 05:57 AM - Re: Re: Life is so unfair! (Graham Singleton) 4. 07:00 AM - Re : Battery (John & Paddy Wigney) 5. 09:01 AM - Re: FW: fuel hose (JEFF ROBERTS) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:22 AM PST US From: "Michel AUVRAY" Subject: RE: Europa-List: RE: Life is so unfair! Hello Graham, Do you have available pictures and documents opf your tailwheel modification and price. This is for friend of me he build a monowheel. Thanks -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de Graham Singleton Envoy : mardi 20 mars 2007 22:45 : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: RE: Life is so unfair! Alan reminds me, I have seen the screws on the inspection panels rubbing on the tank, take a while to wear thu but could be a cause. Graham steve v wrote: > > Hi Alan, > What a bummer, mine also leaked about 4 weeks B4 the flight test, it turned out to be where the two FPA903B screw into the two F09C at the tank outlets (i originally fitted them "clean"), i'd be interested to know your source of the leak and the fix, > > steve G-CEBV #573 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:39 AM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Europa-List: RE: Life is so unfair! Hello again Alan, Australia calling! Sorry for the delay in replying but have been out of circulation for two days. My previous statement that my friend took his tank out was incorrect. (He was told to take the tank out but didn't) The problem with his tank was that a split about 3/8" long developed (for no apparent reason) about half way down the back of the tank close to the centreline. On reading your recent posts, I note your problem is much lower than this so the following may not be very relevant. Anyway, trying to be brief which is hard for me, I will endeavour to explain the repair process he carried out. He cut a 9" x 6" hole in the cockpit module between the head rests and then cut the same sized hole in the top of the tank. This allowed access to find where the leak was. The split was at the level of the remaining fuel so was easy to find. He then cut another hole in the back of the cockpit module to allow access to the split and drilled 1/8" holes at each end of the split. Using a 1/16" bit, he ran it along the split opening it up to allow the introduction of Redux / flox mixture. Two 3mm aluminium plates were made up 2" longer than the split and 1" wide. Two clearance holes were drilled in the outer plate and the matching holes on the inner plate were tapped to accept screws. (not sure of size) These holes were put about 1/2" beyond each end of the split. The plates were then curved slightly lengthways. Both sides of the tank around the split were roughened with 60 grit paper and a fairly generous Redux / flox mixture applied to the concave sides of each plate after which they were screwed together ensuring no voids and that excess oozed out all around both sides. Excess was then wiped off of course. TESTING He also glued pieces of plate to the piece removed from the top of the tank. One to a shiny part and one to a roughened part. Both stuck well but on bending each after cure, the plate on the shiny part popped off. He couldn't remove the one glued to the roughened part. The top of the tank was then repaired thus :- Made up two aluminium plates with a 15mm overlap all around and removed the middle of one of them leaving only 15 mm around the outer edge to make a flange for the inside. Holes were drilled every 2" for AN3 bolts as per the repair plates and the two pieces bolted together using a cork gasket (cut as per the inner flange) under the upper plate. This repair was done quite some time ago now and so far has been 100% successful. I hope yours requires less surgery than that I just attempted to describe. Cheers and good luck with yours. Kingsley - Masochists read on PS - a bit of trivia. On Saturday 7th April, QANTAS (Australia's International Airline) will be flying the first Boeing 707 they owned into Longreach (Central Western Queensland) to its final resting place and to form part of the QANTAS museum in Longreach. [QANTAS, an acromym for Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services, was originally formed in Winton (100nm from Longreach) in the days of Avros and operated out of Longreach] I understand this was the first B707 entered into airline service in the world. It will join a B747 200 that was also flown in a few years ago after it was stripped of everything possible and with minimum fuel on board to make it light enough to land on the short strip. I was not there to witness the B747 landing but the fascination for we aviators is watching such a large aircraft land on a runway that has rarely seen aircraft any bigger than a Fokker Friendship. Turning these aircraft around on the end of the runway is a mammoth task as there are no parallel taxiways etc, it will have to turn and backtrack and the wing span is greater than the width of the runway. Such a rare sight is this, that my friend whos problem I described above, hopes to pick me up and then for us both to fly up to Longreach in his Europa to see the landing of the 707. He has to travel 250nm to pick me up and then we have a 350nm leg from my place to Longreach. For the information of all Pommy and European Europaphiles, we will not see a single town on the track from my place to Longreach. If the weather is true to form for this part of the world, I'll bet we don't see any clouds on the whole trip either. (I shouldn't have said that - Murphy might read this!) As I said, a bit of trivia so please forgive me for my indulgence but I haven't been on a descent cross country in a Europa before so I am really looking forward to it. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:26 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Life is so unfair! Let us know how it goes, Kingsley. You might try and get a pik of a Europa in front of an gray haired 707! I have one of my Long EZ in front of Concorde, (with a few gray hairs) Graham Kingsley Hurst wrote: > > > > Hello again Alan, Australia calling! > > Such a rare sight is this, that my friend whos problem I described > above, hopes to pick me up and then for us both to fly up to Longreach > in his Europa to see the landing of the 707. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:16 AM PST US From: John & Paddy Wigney Subject: Europa-List: Re : Battery Hi Jerry, I have had very satisfactory service from my Odyssey 545. It is commonly supplied with a metal jacket (MJ) but you do not need that. http://www.batteryweb.com/odyssey.cfm is a typical supplier. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina From: "Jerry Rehn" Subject: Europa-List: battery Was wondering what kind of batteries are being used out there. I am about to replace and am considering the Odyssey which has 680 amp cranking power and weighs in at 15lbs. Jerry 914 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:27 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: fuel hose Actually thats my son's thing. To me a car is to get to point B, But that Fiero sounds like it should have wings with the performance your probably getting with that V8 in it. :0) Jeff A258/Gold Rush/N128LJ Do not archive. On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Europa List wrote: > Hi Jeff, > - > You seem to hang around with a bunch of car nuts. You would probably > like my '88 Fiero with the 4.9 Cadillac V8. > - > Vaughn T > XSmono, Wiring and preparing for top installation >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: JEFF ROBERTS >> To: europa-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:14 AM >> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: fuel hose >> >> I see you've had a lot of response from this so I thought I'd send in >> my two cents. I used the fuel injection hose throughout the entire >> system. I figured in the unlikely event of an impact it's the most >> flexible and has the least chance of breaking. All the drag racers >> around here swear by it. Its very easy to work with, and you can get >> it at most auto parts store. The negative is it's a bit expensive but >> worth it. >> Jeff R. >> N128LJ / Gold Rush >> >> >> >> On Mar 17, 2007, at 6:01 PM, William Daniell wrote: >> >>> - >>> - >>> I see rather belatedly that the fabric co vered fuel hose is not >>> recommended for installation. -Is this so? >>> - >>> If so what is recommended?- What is the most durable stuff (for >>> trigear)?- I plan to run on AVGAS. >>> - >>> Will >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List >>> >>> >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> >>> >> Jeff Roberts >> >> RMMM >> Roberts Marketing & Media Management >> 615-355-7575 Office >> 615-406-8651 Cell >> >> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List the Web >> http://forums.matronics.com ========== > > Jeff Roberts RMMM Roberts Marketing & Media Management 615-355-7575 Office 615-406-8651 Cell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.