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1. 12:12 AM - Mod. 72 - done! (Gert Dalgaard)
2. 12:43 AM - Mod. 72 - done! (Gert Dalgaard)
3. 02:07 AM - Re: fiberglass cloth (flyingphil2)
4. 03:26 AM - Mod. 72 - done! (Gert Dalgaard)
5. 08:41 AM - ceramic coated exhaust (Jerry Rehn)
6. 10:11 AM - Re: ceramic coated exhaust (Peter Timm)
7. 02:04 PM - Re: Mod. 72 - done! (karelvranken)
8. 02:21 PM - Re: ceramic coated exhaust ()
9. 06:20 PM - Re: fiberglass cloth (William Daniell)
10. 06:37 PM - Re: fiberglass cloth (William Daniell)
11. 09:51 PM - Re: Mod. 72 - done! (Gert Dalgaard)
12. 10:07 PM - Re: ceramic coated exhaust (William Mills)
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| Subject: | Re: fiberglass cloth |
Hi,
I'm sure the Europa factory supplies the cloth but if not, you can get it from
Severn Valley Sailplanes in the UK. See link:
http://www.svsp.co.uk/Shop%20Website/pages/composite_repair_materials.htm
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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After much consideration, I did the mod. 72 last night together with
a buddy.
Took a little more than three hours and was no problem.
Loosen fuel-lines and connections what will not allow you to push the
engine a little backwards.
Loosen the engine and hoist it about half an inch - and not like the
manual says - lower it.
Make the job with the 16.5 mm rival and reassemble.
Job done.
Have a nice Sunday :-)))
Regards Gert
OY-GDS/425 hours
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| Subject: | ceramic coated exhaust |
Has anyone ceramic coated their exhaust system? Jet Hot www.jet-hot.com is
suppose to reduce temperatures about 200 F. Apparently is widely used among
high performance racing. Could this help reduce cowl temps without causing
other isues?
Jerry
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| Subject: | Re: ceramic coated exhaust |
Hi Jerry,
I had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated before taking the aircraft into
service, since I had bought the 912S for my classic mono, and knowing, that
the 912S runs much hotter than the 912. I don't know what the difference
would have been , but have had no problems in 350 hrs , some of the flying
in very hot conditions in Arizona. I would recommend it.
Peter Timm
# 110, C-GIET
on 07/3/25 8:40 AM, Jerry Rehn at rehn@rockisland.com wrote:
>
> Has anyone ceramic coated their exhaust system? Jet Hot www.jet-hot.com is
> suppose to reduce temperatures about 200 F. Apparently is widely used among
> high performance racing. Could this help reduce cowl temps without causing
> other isues?
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Jerry,
I've had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated before taking the aircraft into
service. My Europa is a Classic with a 912S and has 350 hrs on it . I could
not tell if it made a difference, but things get pretty hot under my cowl,
with everything being so tight. It was not very expensive, as I recall
I would recommend it.
Peter Timm
# ll0 , C-GIET
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| Subject: | Re: Mod. 72 - done! |
Gert,
IMHO the upper two tubes of the landing gear mounting have to be
reinforced, not the lower ones.
Karel Vranken. # 447 F-PKRL mod 72 done.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gert Dalgaard
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Mod. 72 - done!
After much consideration, I did the mod. 72 last night together with a
buddy.
Took a little more than three hours and was no problem.
Loosen fuel-lines and connections what will not allow you to push the
engine a little backwards.
Loosen the engine and hoist it about half an inch - and not like the
manual says - lower it.
Make the job with the 16.5 mm rival and reassemble.
Job done.
Have a nice Sunday :-)))
Regards Gert
OY-GDS/425 hours
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| Subject: | Re: ceramic coated exhaust |
Hello Peter
"I had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated before taking the aircraft into
service"
Who did the coating?
What type and what color?
Thx.
Ron Parigoris
I was planning on using:
http://www.performancecoatings.com/
For 914 exhaust and also their thermal dissipating/protective coating for
aluminium intercooler and water radiator
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| Subject: | fiberglass cloth |
Thanks,
I need something available in the USA - so the conclusion is that the Rutan
cloth is acceptable?
I don' understand the technical aspect but I am assuming that you need the
same mechanical properties as the original which presumably means the same
chemical composition, same orientation and same weight of fibers??
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 13:45
Subject: Re: Europa-List: fiberglass cloth
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Rutan chose it because it was used for gliders in Germany. Probably
still is, 92125, it's made by Interglas and it's a 2 by 2 twill (for
drape). The UNI we use is 92145.
I recently ( 4 years ago!) bought half a roll of BID from a supplier in
Germany but haven't yet re found the details. Price was very good
compared to UK prices.
Graham
EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
> I was told by Europa some time ago that the closest thing for the
> factory BID was the Rutan cloth RA7725
>
> Brian Skelly
> Europa XS TriGear #A276
> North Texas USA
> You can see my build photos at:
> http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
>
>
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| Subject: | fiberglass cloth |
Interglass is based where?
Is there any "standard" means of describing cloth?
Does 92125 mean anything or is it a part number?
As usual my eternal problem is getting stuff in sunny Bogota!!
For example the cloth that Andy suggested is ACS part number 7781 described
as "8.92 oz per sq yard medium weight standard industrial cloth thread count
60x54 strength 350x330 lb/in" is this a standard way of describing cloth?
Would any cloth fulfilling these characteristics do?
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 13:45
Subject: Re: Europa-List: fiberglass cloth
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Rutan chose it because it was used for gliders in Germany. Probably
still is, 92125, it's made by Interglas and it's a 2 by 2 twill (for
drape). The UNI we use is 92145.
I recently ( 4 years ago!) bought half a roll of BID from a supplier in
Germany but haven't yet re found the details. Price was very good
compared to UK prices.
Graham
EuropaXSA276@aol.com wrote:
> I was told by Europa some time ago that the closest thing for the
> factory BID was the Rutan cloth RA7725
>
> Brian Skelly
> Europa XS TriGear #A276
> North Texas USA
> You can see my build photos at:
> http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mod. 72 - done! |
Lucky me that I did the top then.... :-)))
No, of coarse it's in the top-tubes you have to mount the
reinforcements, Karel.
Must be my poor English.
I just suggest that you move the engine half an inch up and not lover
it as per instructions from Europa and then do the work under the top-
mounting-points.
Regards Gert
Den 25/03/2007 kl. 23.10 skrev karelvranken:
> Gert,
> IMHO the upper two tubes of the landing gear mounting have to be
> reinforced, not the lower ones.
> Karel Vranken. # 447 F-PKRL mod 72 done.
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| Subject: | Re: ceramic coated exhaust |
Does anybody know if ceramic coating increases the durability of the pipes?
In my experience, they seem to last for only about 450 hours. (Classic
exhaust)
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Timm" <cptimm@telus.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: ceramic coated exhaust
>
> Hi Jerry,
>
> I had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated before taking the aircraft into
> service, since I had bought the 912S for my classic mono, and knowing,
> that
> the 912S runs much hotter than the 912. I don't know what the difference
> would have been , but have had no problems in 350 hrs , some of the flying
> in very hot conditions in Arizona. I would recommend it.
>
> Peter Timm
> # 110, C-GIET
>
>
> on 07/3/25 8:40 AM, Jerry Rehn at rehn@rockisland.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Has anyone ceramic coated their exhaust system? Jet Hot www.jet-hot.com
>> is
>> suppose to reduce temperatures about 200 F. Apparently is widely used
>> among
>> high performance racing. Could this help reduce cowl temps without
>> causing
>> other isues?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hi Jerry,
> I've had my exhaust pipes ceramic coated before taking the aircraft into
> service. My Europa is a Classic with a 912S and has 350 hrs on it . I
> could
> not tell if it made a difference, but things get pretty hot under my
> cowl,
> with everything being so tight. It was not very expensive, as I recall
> I would recommend it.
> Peter Timm
> # ll0 , C-GIET
>
>
> --
> 23/03/2007 15:27
>
>
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