---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/06/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:35 AM - Re: Flap attachment procedure (gregoryf.flyboy) 2. 11:21 AM - Airmaster AC200 Serial Cable. (Mike Parkin) 3. 12:59 PM - Re: Interesting builder's website (Rowland & Wilma Carson) 4. 03:09 PM - Re: Interesting builder's website (Jos Okhuijsen) 5. 05:07 PM - Re: Interesting builder's website (William Daniell) 6. 08:52 PM - HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! (Richard Schultz) 7. 09:12 PM - Re: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 8. 09:56 PM - Re: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! (gregoryf.flyboy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:35:52 AM PST US From: "gregoryf.flyboy" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Flap attachment procedure When I was holding a =BC=94 drill bit in the TP13 bushing on the tailplane, to see how the bushing lined up with the torque tube pin, I let go of it, and =91whoosh-thunk=92 -it disappeared into the tailplane. I must have drilled a little too far, and into the cavity, when clearing out the flox behind the bushing, to accept the length of the pin. I guess I will have a partial tool box with me wherever I go. Hopefully it won=92t damage the foam. Anyone had this goof happen, and how did the bit come out, if ever? Greg Fuchs A050 XS Tri 914 Intend Fit Tigard (Portland) Oregon Started Jan 2007 Building in hanger in Newberg Sportsman Airpark, 2S6 Ready for the long haul :-) >The job I forgot before closing out the wings was to take the stanley knife out! > >Mike Duane A207A >Redding, California _____ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:19 AM PST US From: "Mike Parkin" Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster AC200 Serial Cable. I would like to make a Serial cable for the Airmaster AC200 controller. I can obtain a Molex Mini-fit plug easily but the crimp terminal (farnell 151-980) are only obtainable by the 100 - at 17 GBP a shot. Does anyone have 6 or so of these crimps that I could buy. It seems a waste to buy 100 at such a cost when all I need is 6. regards, Mike (G-JULZ) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:09 PM PST US From: Rowland & Wilma Carson Subject: RE: Europa-List: Interesting builder's website At 2007-04-05 12:08 +0100 Alan wrote: >Once I've finished building I'll trim them down and add some comments Alan - yes to the comments, no to the trimming, please! Your pictures are a useful resource to many others besides yourself, so please don't remove any, if possible. I recognise that there may be server space constraints, but hope you will find it as easy to leave them all in place when adding comments as to start deciding which ones to remove. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 750 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Interesting builder's website From: "Jos Okhuijsen" Same idea Rowland, The forum and lists are great, but during my build i have had so much help from people just by looking at their pictures. Trimming is waisting quality, please never do that. Server space should be no problem, neither speed. If everything else fails, or way before that actually: Offer still stands for everybody who has some pictures or a whole build or anyhing in between: Free space and help on the Europa owners site. Drop me a personal email if you are interested. Since the workshop is almost empty now the plane is at the painters, i might even have time to help :-) Regards, Jos Okhuijsen -- workshopcam http://www.okhuijsen.org/plane http://www.europaowners.org/kit600 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:07:12 PM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Interesting builder's website Does anyone have a list of websites? -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland & Wilma Carson Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 14:30 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Interesting builder's website At 2007-04-05 12:08 +0100 Alan wrote: >Once I've finished building I'll trim them down and add some comments Alan - yes to the comments, no to the trimming, please! Your pictures are a useful resource to many others besides yourself, so please don't remove any, if possible. I recognise that there may be server space constraints, but hope you will find it as easy to leave them all in place when adding comments as to start deciding which ones to remove. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson PFA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 750 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:15 PM PST US From: "Richard Schultz" Subject: Europa-List: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! Has anyone had problems with a 914 that won't shut down? On a flight today everything started out fine until the first stop, On turning the switch to off the engine kept running, shutting the master off did not help either. The engine just continued to run. Turning off the fuel switch solved the problem. Restarting the engine showed no drop in RPM from one set of plugs. The flight home was uneventful but again the engine would not drop RPM's from one set of plugs (closest to the off position?) and had to have the fuel cut off the kill the engine. I have not done any trouble shooting yet but hope to get back out to the airport tomorrow (Saturday) or early next week to see what has opened up in the system. Anyone have ideas at this early point? One thing about a Rotax they want to keep flying. I guess the plane just was not ready to stop having fun today! :-) Rich Schultz N262AE 713-703-2156 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:59 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! Rich, Be very careful not to turn the prop until this is fixed. You may have a hot ignition! The engine may start without you wanting it to.....and when you may be in a bad position! I would hazard a guess that your magnetos are not getting grounded when you turn off the mag switches. In other words, the switches are not grounding the mags. I would check resistance to ground at each magneto when the corresponding switch is on or off. Off should give you almost zero ohms, which means the mag is grounded, and the engine should shut off. And the meter should read max resistance on analog meters or OL on digital meters when the switch is turned On, so the engine runs. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:41 PM PST US From: "gregoryf.flyboy" Subject: RE: Europa-List: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! Is it possible that the engine was run hard, and one cylinder got hotter than the other (due to carbon buildup, etc)? In the troublehooting section for the 914 Rotax manual, it states that a hot engine which has not been allowed to cool down could do this, even with the ignition turned off. It advises to idle at 2000 RPM before shutting down. Just a pre-initial stab at it.. Due to the RPM's not dropping from one set of plugs, this may not be it. More than likely, it is the old open grounding wire problem, which old magneto-types can have. Looking at the schematic for the 914, shows a 'breakerless capacitor discharge' design. It also shows a grounding wire from the module, through a switch. If the engine was not put away overly hot, I would start there. Verify with an ohm meter, or a volt meter (or both) that the ground wire from the module, does in fact get grounded through the switch. Greg Fuchs A050 XS Tri 914 Intend Fit Tigard (Portland) Oregon _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Schultz Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: HELP my Rotax Won't Stop! Has anyone had problems with a 914 that won't shut down? On a flight today everything started out fine until the first stop, On turning the switch to off the engine kept running, shutting the master off did not help either. The engine just continued to run. Turning off the fuel switch solved the problem. Restarting the engine showed no drop in RPM from one set of plugs. The flight home was uneventful but again the engine would not drop RPM's from one set of plugs (closest to the off position?) and had to have the fuel cut off the kill the engine. I have not done any trouble shooting yet but hope to get back out to the airport tomorrow (Saturday) or early next week to see what has opened up in the system. Anyone have ideas at this early point? One thing about a Rotax they want to keep flying. I guess the plane just was not ready to stop having fun today! :-) Rich Schultz N262AE 713-703-2156 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.