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1. 12:39 AM - Re: brake hose routing XS mono (Keith Hickling)
2. 02:31 AM - Re: brake hose routing XS mono (William Mills)
3. 04:58 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Trevpond@aol.com)
4. 05:02 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Trevpond@aol.com)
5. 05:03 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Trevpond@aol.com)
6. 06:16 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
7. 08:34 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Trevpond@aol.com)
8. 08:52 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Europa List)
9. 09:18 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (William Daniell)
10. 09:35 AM - YAESU Aviator Pilot II (William Daniell)
11. 09:54 AM - Re: YAESU Aviator Pilot II (Pete Lawless)
12. 11:01 AM - Re: EFIS thoughts (Peter Rees)
13. 11:17 AM - Re: Fw: Tour de France 2007 June 2-10th (Dari Sagar)
14. 12:04 PM - Re: EFIS thoughts (D Wysong)
15. 12:46 PM - Axle NUts (Al Stills)
16. 05:53 PM - Re: YAESU Aviator Pilot II (William Daniell)
17. 11:39 PM - Re: YAESU Aviator Pilot II (Pete Lawless)
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| Subject: | Re: brake hose routing XS mono |
Thanks William. Did you route yours along the wall of the tunnel going
forward from the master cylinder? I have considered this routing -
forward and down from the master cylinder, crossing the rudder cable
just behind the tufnol rubbing block and against the tunnel wall (my
rudder cables are in nylaflow tubing anyway). Then a gentle curve
passing a little behind the swing arm bearings, then back down the swing
arm. As you say, my cable is just long enough for this route. And I'll
avoid cable ties!
No problems with your redo?
Regards,
Keith.
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From: William Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
Keith et al,
I know of at least two Europa Monos that lost all braking owing to a
leak in the brake pipe, because the brake pipes were retained by plastic
cable ties. Apparently the cable ties eventually wear through the nylon
and release all the brake pressure when it is needed! I replaced mine
before it happened, but this time I routed the pipe to cut the corner,
i.e. the bend is inside the swinging arm pivot point. This way I can
keep a check on the whole length of pipe and I also use rubber lined "P"
clips to retain it in position and a sleeve of split silicone tube to
protect it where it might rub on the walls of the U/C tunnel. If you
consider routing yours this way, I would expect your pipe is long
enough.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Hickling
To: Eurpoa List
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:02 AM
Subject: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
Evening all,
Can someone please help me with the routing of the brake hose? The
manual says to rout it from the brake caliper up the swing arm, forward
of the LG08 retraction arms and over the top of the large horizontal
tube of the LG mounting frame that the LG09 shaft goes through, up to
the top of the tunnel and back to the master cylinder.
But my hose is 15 - 20 cm too short for that routing. It is 121 cm
long from the screw fittings, and this is not long enough even to go
directly from the master cylinder directly forward to the large tube on
the LG mounting frame and directly back to the slave cylinder. Roger
Bull tells me that 121 cm is the standard length. So have I
misunderstood the manual? Has anyone else had this problem? Can someone
with it accessible please measure the length of their hose for me?
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand,
Kit 613
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| Subject: | Re: brake hose routing XS mono |
Yes, that is the exact route. A nice gentle curve against the tunnel
wall from the master cylinder forwards and down to the top of the
swinging arm passing inside the rudder cables. Most Monos have rotated
the slave cylinder rear-wards, so that it is horizontal when the U/C is
retracted; inline with the forks. It is less vulnerable when on the
ground and is out of the slipstream when retracted. No problems with
the redo.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Hickling
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
Thanks William. Did you route yours along the wall of the tunnel going
forward from the master cylinder? I have considered this routing -
forward and down from the master cylinder, crossing the rudder cable
just behind the tufnol rubbing block and against the tunnel wall (my
rudder cables are in nylaflow tubing anyway). Then a gentle curve
passing a little behind the swing arm bearings, then back down the swing
arm. As you say, my cable is just long enough for this route. And I'll
avoid cable ties!
No problems with your redo?
Regards,
Keith.
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
Keith et al,
I know of at least two Europa Monos that lost all braking owing to a
leak in the brake pipe, because the brake pipes were retained by plastic
cable ties. Apparently the cable ties eventually wear through the nylon
and release all the brake pressure when it is needed! I replaced mine
before it happened, but this time I routed the pipe to cut the corner,
i.e. the bend is inside the swinging arm pivot point. This way I can
keep a check on the whole length of pipe and I also use rubber lined "P"
clips to retain it in position and a sleeve of split silicone tube to
protect it where it might rub on the walls of the U/C tunnel. If you
consider routing yours this way, I would expect your pipe is long
enough.
Regards,
William
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Hickling
To: Eurpoa List
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 8:02 AM
Subject: Europa-List: brake hose routing XS mono
Evening all,
Can someone please help me with the routing of the brake hose? The
manual says to rout it from the brake caliper up the swing arm, forward
of the LG08 retraction arms and over the top of the large horizontal
tube of the LG mounting frame that the LG09 shaft goes through, up to
the top of the tunnel and back to the master cylinder.
But my hose is 15 - 20 cm too short for that routing. It is 121 cm
long from the screw fittings, and this is not long enough even to go
directly from the master cylinder directly forward to the large tube on
the LG mounting frame and directly back to the slave cylinder. Roger
Bull tells me that 121 cm is the standard length. So have I
misunderstood the manual? Has anyone else had this problem? Can someone
with it accessible please measure the length of their hose for me?
Thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand,
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Hi Brian,
Yes, it is a little solid state Horizon.
Trev
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Hi Keith,
I had an original EFIS Lite that was upgraded with a remote screen. The
Horizon continually toppled and BMA replaced the unit with the latest G4 Sport.
BMA are good to deal with and you need to speak to Larry Romig about any
queries you may have. Map is very good and everything works as on the Tin but
earthing is a problem as the unit generates quite a lot of "noise". I have
put ferrites on all of the cables coming out of the plugs on the EFIS and this
has certainly helped along with a separate earth strap to the case of the
unit to the Earth Bus.
Trev
G-LINN
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Keith,
Definately speak to Larry Romig at BMA!!
Trev
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
In a message dated 4/15/2007 6:59:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
Trevpond@aol.com writes:
Hi Brian,
Yes, it is a little solid state Horizon.
Thanks Trev. Brand name please?
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Hi Keith,
Yes, it's: _http://www.pcflightsystems.com/_
(http://www.pcflightsystems.com/) .
regards
Trev
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Hi Martin,
I have purchased the Grand Rapids Technology dual screen Efis and EIS.
Unfortunately, I have not wired it all up yet. I'm severly challanged
when it comes to sparks. Their drawings and instructions are easy to
follow and they are extremely responsive if I call with a question. I'm
just having trouble withe the wiring of a second 40 amp alternator as my
primary source of power. I have the GPS built into the unit and though
not IFR certified, all who have used it love it. With two screens, there
is no limit as to how you can display attitude, engine and GPS info.
Since I bought the unit, they have added terrain, weather, and mode s
traffic. Anything that they add can be added to my set-up, but weather
and mode-s info is an additional cost (also when purchased new). You can
buy a single screen system and upgrade to dual screen later for the same
cost as buying dual screen initially. I can also add dual AHRS and
Magetometers if I want electronic redundancy. What really made the sale
for me was the brilliance of their screen, especially since their booth
at Sun n Fun faced the big open hanger doors. Some of the units yhat I
looked at were not as clear even thouht they were in a dark corner of
the booth. Here is a link to their web site. Check it out if you have
not already.
http://www.grtavionics.com/
Vaughn Teegarden
XS mono, 914 with Airmaster planned
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From: MJKTuck@cs.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 3:20 PM
Subject: Europa-List: EFIS thoughts
Hi Folks,
I'm thinking (dreaming I think at this stage) to upgrade my panel to
EFIS.
I like the combined EFIS/EMS by the likes of Dynon. Anyone got any
panel shots of an EFIS equipped Europa as I'm interested to see how the
water temp as well as oil temps and pressures are displayed.
Also I figure just a VFR panel is all I need.
I'm not so keen on having all your primary instrumentation in one box.
If the box gets a fault in flight you loose everything so I figure some
kind of mechanical backup (or secondary EMS of some kind) is necessary.
Any thoughts on what instrumentation should have backup and how?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
Europa N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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It might seem a little unsophisticated but I have had one of these pcflight
systems egyro connected to an iPaq as a portable backup for rentals and
latterly in my own Zenith. I bought on spec thinking that the price was
sufficiently low for it not to be a disaster if it didn't work. In the
event it has worked very well. Craig Sellers has always responded rapidly
to questions and he quickly replaced a unit which did not "talk" to my GPS.
Will
http://www.pcflightsystems.com/
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Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 15:58
Subject: Re: Europa-List: EFIS thoughts
Hi Trev.
I'm looking very close to your same setup. But using the large Dynon in
place of the Blue Mountain.
What is that back up instrument between the Airspeed and the Altimeter? It's
not an electronic miniature horizon is it?
It is not clear to me if full size ASI ALT and AI will fit in the panel
under a Dynon D100. It looks too tight.
There are a number of option for 2 1/2" AS and ALT but few Attitude
indicators. The only one I have found is from Mid West Instruments. They
offer a small trio pack. ASI ALT and AI
The 2" trio backup set from Mid West is unbelievably expensive. I would like
to consider options to that same setup
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | YAESU Aviator Pilot II |
Has anyone "plumbed in" opne of these portables. I think I saw one attached
to a panel but I can't remember where.
Apparently it is not as simple as just connecting the headset and an antenna
extension. You get a strong whine through the headset. I am told by Yaesu
helpdesk that you need a ferrite choke. Not wishing to appear ignorant.but
what the hell is a ferrite choke?
Will
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| Subject: | YAESU Aviator Pilot II |
Hi Will
A ferrite choke is a coil of wire wound onto a ferrite rod. It has the
effect of passing DC ok but offering a high resistance to AC. If you
put it
in the supply line to whatever an Aviator Pilot is it stops the stray AC
getting through and kills the whine.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Sent: 15 April 2007 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Has anyone "plumbed in" opne of these portables. I think I saw one
attached to a panel but I can't remember where.
Apparently it is not as simple as just connecting the headset and an
antenna
extension. You get a strong whine through the headset. I am told by
Yaesu
helpdesk that you need a ferrite choke. Not wishing to appear
ignorant.but
what the hell is a ferrite choke?
Will
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Thats a big surprise - we've updated the firmware on our Dynon EFIS
about 4 times (not through necessity - they keep adding new features for
free!). Always goes seamlessly and takes about 2 minutes.
We have never found the screen brightness on our Dynon unreadable even
in direct sunlight.
Have to say that I'm a very happy Dynon customer - the D10A is a really
great product and I've always found them to be very responsive to
queries / suggestions.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: glenn crowder
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: EFIS thoughts
Just talked to a guy tonite at the EAA meeting who was finishing up an
RV7 and has had
nothing but problems with the Dynon engine monitoring system. (The
Dynon flight instrument
system has been good tho) He says even their downloadable updates
don't work. Very unhappy customer!
Glenn
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From: EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 16:58:13 -0400
Subject: Re: Europa-List: EFIS thoughts
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Hi Trev.
I'm looking very close to your same setup. But using the large
Dynon in place of the Blue Mountain.
What is that back up instrument between the Airspeed and the
Altimeter? It's not an electronic miniature horizon is it?
It is not clear to me if full size ASI ALT and AI will fit in the
panel under a Dynon D100. It looks too tight.
There are a number of option for 2 1/2" AS and ALT but few Attitude
indicators. The only one I have found is from Mid West Instruments. They
offer a small trio pack. ASI ALT and AI
The 2" trio backup set from Mid West is unbelievably expensive. I
would like to consider options to that same setup
Brian Skelly
Europa XS TriGear #A276
North Texas USA
You can see my build photos at:
http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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| Subject: | Fw: Tour de France 2007 June 2-10th |
William,
Do I understand that you'll be in the UK shortly? If so, why not spend a few
days with us here in beautiful Upton Snodsbury? You are most welcome.
I sold my Europa on my return home from our South American trip, but am
still flying as I have joined a syndicate which operate a mono-wheel Europa.
It's unlikely that we'll be going on the Tour de France trip this time
around as we've got a few other committments which clash tour dates.
Anyway, if you are in the country give me a bell. (Home): 01905 381688
(Mobile): 07900 056343. Gail sends regards. Cheers,
Dari
>From: "William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Tour de France 2007 June 2-10th Date:
>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:14:28 -0500
>
>Anyone want a co-pilot?
>
>
> _____
>
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Hitchcock
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 14:03
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Tour de France 2007 June 2-10th
>
>
>Last call
>
>
>The flavour of the tour will be unchanged: essentially it is a fairly
>gentle
>trip allowing plenty of time to experience the delights of France.
>
> While most participants are experienced, it is the ideal trip for first
>time cross-channel pilots and for wives who dont think that being in a
>plane all day is what makes a perfect holiday!
>
>We intend to include a visit to La Fert Alais where there is a magnificent
>collection of old aircraft. Contact Bob (robert.hitchcock@virgin.net tel.
>01773 825864.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: EFIS thoughts |
Hello Keith,
Sounds like you're seeing a lack of terrain data (white, or red/white
checks). BMA had issues around the US coastline, too, but the recent
terrain database (Feb 07) "fixes" the problem and it doesn't look as bad.
You might try a software update to see if the "fix" applies to the NZ
coastline, too. I wouldn't bet on it... but it's worth a shot.
It shouldn't affect the operation of the unit at all, but it will certainly
be annoying seeing all of that checkerboarded terrain! If the software
update doesn't change things, send notes to both Greg and Ross directly
(greg@ and ross@bluemountainavionics.com) to see if they can work the
problem. They're busy, but it's uncommon for them not to respond at all.
Good luck!
D
Time: 05:19:53 PM PST US
> From: Keith Hickling <keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: EFIS thoughts
>
> Hi Trev,
> I also have the BM EFIS lite plus G4 - I think one of the early ones
> they shipped. Not yet installed, but on bench testing it seems fine
> apart from the GPS terrain display, which breaks up into quite large
> white triangles around the coastline, and shows only red and white. I'm
> not sure if this is a problem with the New Zealand terrain software or
> with the unit itself. I have emailed BM several times and sent them
> photos of this and have had no response.
>
> What are the problems with the early units that you mentioned? Any
> suggestions about this problem? Does anyone else have a BM EFIS lite G4,
> and is it working OK?
>
> Could someone going to Sun ' Fun please ask BM about this problem and
> why they haven't responded to my emails - many thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Keith Hickling,
> New Zealand,
> XS mono kit 613.
>
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Does anyone know the size of the Tri-gear axle nuts=85=85The factory
number is
AN960-2016. I think it=92s 1 =BC=94 X 16 thread but need to be sure
Al Stills
N625AZ
40 Hrs flown off=85=85=85..what a thrill
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| Subject: | YAESU Aviator Pilot II |
Thanks Pete
The radio is a self contained handheld. It has an adapter for use with
headphones. It works fine without headset but when you use the adapter you
get the whine. The yaesu email help desk said use this ferrite choke thing
(I now know what they mean) but not where to put it.. I am assuming that the
ferrite choke would go on the headset cable?
Is it the same thing as you get round laptop power cables?
Will
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lawless
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:52
Subject: RE: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Hi Will
A ferrite choke is a coil of wire wound onto a ferrite rod. It has the
effect of passing DC ok but offering a high resistance to AC. If you put it
in the supply line to whatever an Aviator Pilot is it stops the stray AC
getting through and kills the whine.
Regards
Pete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell
Sent: 15 April 2007 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Has anyone "plumbed in" opne of these portables. I think I saw one
attached to a panel but I can't remember where.
Apparently it is not as simple as just connecting the headset and an antenna
extension. You get a strong whine through the headset. I am told by Yaesu
helpdesk that you need a ferrite choke. Not wishing to appear ignorant.but
what the hell is a ferrite choke?
Will
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| Subject: | YAESU Aviator Pilot II |
Morning Will
There seem to be two sorts one which is a component and is actually
connected in series with the wire and another that simply wraps around
the
outside of the cable those are the bumps on the PC cables (I think). I
would ask Yaesu for more information (make and model number and where in
the
set up it goes) I would guess round the headset cable to cut out the
stray
hum. Radios are strange things, the one that has always worked most
reliably for me has been my Icom handheld (Now 15 years old) with or
without
headset plugged in.
Good luck.
Pete
If it whines when away from the aeroplane you could take to whole setup
to
say Radio Shack and try the fix in the shop.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Sent: 16 April 2007 01:50
Subject: RE: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Thanks Pete
The radio is a self contained handheld. It has an adapter for use with
headphones. It works fine without headset but when you use the adapter
you
get the whine. The yaesu email help desk said use this ferrite choke
thing
(I now know what they mean) but not where to put it.. I am assuming that
the
ferrite choke would go on the headset cable?
Is it the same thing as you get round laptop power cables?
Will
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete
Lawless
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 11:52
Subject: RE: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Hi Will
A ferrite choke is a coil of wire wound onto a ferrite rod. It has the
effect of passing DC ok but offering a high resistance to AC. If you
put it
in the supply line to whatever an Aviator Pilot is it stops the stray AC
getting through and kills the whine.
Regards
Pete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Daniell
Sent: 15 April 2007 17:32
Subject: Europa-List: YAESU Aviator Pilot II
Has anyone "plumbed in" opne of these portables. I think I saw one
attached to a panel but I can't remember where.
Apparently it is not as simple as just connecting the headset and an
antenna
extension. You get a strong whine through the headset. I am told by
Yaesu
helpdesk that you need a ferrite choke. Not wishing to appear
ignorant.but
what the hell is a ferrite choke?
Will
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