---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 05/05/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:21 AM - Re: Tire change (William Harrison) 2. 11:47 AM - Re: Alternative DOTH - PFA Rally - Sywell (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 3. 12:47 PM - Re: First Flight of G-FIZY (steve v) 4. 02:01 PM - Re: Tire change (Karl Heindl) 5. 02:11 PM - Re: Re Coolant Coice (karelvranken) 6. 03:04 PM - Re: Re Coolant Coice (karelvranken) 7. 03:41 PM - Re: Tire change (Rman) 8. 04:01 PM - Re: Re Coolant Coice (Graham Singleton) 9. 06:02 PM - surging engine on take-off (ken carpenter) 10. 07:06 PM - Re: surging engine on take-off (SPurpura@aol.com) 11. 09:05 PM - Re: surging engine on take-off (Jerry Rehn) 12. 11:52 PM - Re: Europa Widen Shoulder width door mod. (gregoryf.flyboy) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:53 AM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire change Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on jacking a trike would be welcome. Willie Harrison, G-BZNY On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote: > I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to > recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist- > crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that > cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for help > > > Jerry > > 914 Mono > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:54 AM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alternative DOTH - PFA Rally - Sywell At a guess, I'd say we still out-numbered the RVs. Only the Chipmunk crowd seemed to be oddly well co-ordinated and probably took top score. Sywell had to be a success for the large proportion and scope of PFA-types that were there. Duncan McF do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: William Mills To: Europa Forum Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: Europa-List: Alternative DOTH - PFA Rally - Sywell All UK Europa Fliers and DOTHers, I have just booked a slot for the first Regional PFA Rally at Sywell for tomorrow, Saturday, 5th May and I was a little disappointed to note the lack of Europas on the booking list. So come-on chaps, lets have a good Europa representation. The weather looks better for Saturday than Sunday. Hope to see you all tomorrow. Regards, William ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:47:26 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight of G-FIZY From: "steve v " Well done and congratulations Gerry, Now the fun really starts! Good Luck! Steve G-CEBV #573 Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:01 PM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire change Whenever I need to work on the wheels, I push a suitable steel rod (not sure about the diameter) into the hub, and then put a jack underneath at the far end. To remove the wheel you move it outboard next to the jack, then put a support on the inboard side, and lower the jack. Sounds complicated but is dead simple. Karl >From: William Harrison >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire change >Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:20:34 +0100 > >Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on jacking a >trike would be welcome. > >Willie Harrison, G-BZNY > > >On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote: > >>I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to recommendation >>for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a hoist- crane that I could >>lift at the engine or engine mount. Would that cause any issues or too >>much stress at attach points? Thanks for help >> >> >> >>Jerry >> >>914 Mono >> >>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List_- >>============================================================ _- >>forums.matronics.com_- >>=========================================================== >> > _________________________________________________________________ Reserve your place in history - Email Britain! http://www.emailbritain.co.uk/ ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:49 PM PST US From: "karelvranken" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re Coolant Coice ----- Original Message ----- From: "nigel charles" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re Coolant Coice > >>Which is why I am just modifying the air duct exhaust with > a temperature controlled 'cowl' flap. < > > I have been down this route on 2 occasions once with a Classic cowl and > once with an XS cowl. It is normal to control the exhaust rather than > the inlet air which is what I did in both cases. Even with the outlet > for the XS cowl being fully closed it made little difference to > controlling either oil or coolant temperature. The only flap I have seen > work really successfully controls the inlet air. The design uses a flap > which can be raised to close off airflow whilst airborne or lowered on > the ground to encourage increased airflow. > > > Nigel Charles > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:59 PM PST US From: "karelvranken" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re Coolant Coice Nigel, Ron, Gilles, Ira and all, For instance I much appreciate your valuable interventions. Using water/glycol or Evans was and still is a choice But let's make a statement. We have the performing engine and we have the fixed configuration with cowlings and radiators. The engine has three cooling elements: air, oil and coolant. Oil and coolant temperatures are regulated by air flow thru the radiators. Air flow is dependent of ducts, speed and propeller wash. Not so simple as at a given outer temperature all is in the limits when cruising at more then 110 knts. The discussion about Evans or water/glycol may give a difference of about 10C. But for the same configuration with a difference of temperature between winter and hot summer of 40C and a take off speed of 60 knts at full power creates the problems. With 3 liters of oil and 4 liters of coolant we have no margin and no buffer. Until we don't find to regulate and control from the cockpit this temperatures we canot climb at the 1000'/min rate in every season. Let us be humble and say that the cowlings are of a very poor design. But we build an experimental airplane and we are proud of it. I think that I can find in Ron's approach a stimulation to continue the experiment by making several small changes until we succeed. And for my results you still have to wait. Kind regards, Karel Vranken, # 447 XS mono 912ULS Airmaster AP332 now only 35 hours. ----- Original Message ----- From: "nigel charles" Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re Coolant Coice > >>Which is why I am just modifying the air duct exhaust with > a temperature controlled 'cowl' flap. < > > I have been down this route on 2 occasions once with a Classic cowl and > once with an XS cowl. It is normal to control the exhaust rather than > the inlet air which is what I did in both cases. Even with the outlet > for the XS cowl being fully closed it made little difference to > controlling either oil or coolant temperature. The only flap I have seen > work really successfully controls the inlet air. The design uses a flap > which can be raised to close off airflow whilst airborne or lowered on > the ground to encourage increased airflow. > > > Nigel Charles > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:19 PM PST US From: Rman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tire change Willie, Using a short 6x6, on top of a hydraulic floor jack it place the 6x6 just inboard of the leg and jack up one side at a time. Never had any problems with lifting this way... Jeff - Baby Blue William Harrison wrote: > Likewise I have to change tyres on my trigear, so any advice on > jacking a trike would be welcome. > > Willie Harrison, G-BZNY > > > On 4 May 2007, at 21:49, Jerry Rehn wrote: > >> I am going to change my tire and tube and was looking to >> recommendation for lifting aircraft to remove tire. I have a >> hoist-crane that I could lift at the engine or engine mount. Would >> that cause any issues or too much stress at attach points? Thanks for >> help >> >> >> >> Jerry >> >> 914 Mono >> >> * - The Europa-List Email Forum class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com* >> * >> * > * > * > ** > > > ** > * > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > * > * ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:01:29 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re Coolant Coice Karel just one further thought, you should make only one modification then test before you make the next mod, then you have an idea which mod works and which doesn't Graham karelvranken wrote: > > > Nigel, Ron, Gilles, Ira and all, > I think that I > can find in Ron's approach a stimulation to continue the experiment by > making several small changes until we succeed. And for my results you > still have to wait. > Kind regards, > Karel Vranken, # 447 XS mono 912ULS Airmaster AP332 now only 35 hours. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:04 PM PST US From: "ken carpenter" Subject: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off Yesterday taking off, the engine surged as the turbo kicked in it went up to 5700 RPM then dropped back into the 4800 range. I tried several runs but aborted the take-off as it continues to surge. Checked the prop governor and it checked out as functioning correctly.; Took the cowl off and the turbo arm seems to cycle correctly when the master turned on and the throttle cycled. Tied the plane down and ran it up to 5700 rpm. It did not surge at all. Any idea? I have not tried to fly it again yet. Ken Carpenter N 9XS 914 Mono at 430 hours TT ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:06:10 PM PST US From: SPurpura@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off How did your fuel flow numbers look? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:43 PM PST US From: "Jerry Rehn" Subject: RE: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off Ken Changes in boost can be often caused by basic engine problems. I would check Manifold leaks or restrictions Fuel system Air pressure hoses and connections including the small vacuum lines and connectors TCU and waste gate Again, I would carefully check the basics, chances are the turbo itself is OK. Good luck Jerry _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ken carpenter Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:44 PM Subject: Europa-List: surging engine on take-off Yesterday taking off, the engine surged as the turbo kicked in it went up to 5700 RPM then dropped back into the 4800 range. I tried several runs but aborted the take-off as it continues to surge. Checked the prop governor and it checked out as functioning correctly.; Took the cowl off and the turbo arm seems to cycle correctly when the master turned on and the throttle cycled. Tied the plane down and ran it up to 5700 rpm. It did not surge at all. Any idea? I have not tried to fly it again yet. Ken Carpenter N 9XS 914 Mono at 430 hours TT ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:37 PM PST US From: "gregoryf.flyboy" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Widen Shoulder width door mod. Due to the increase in the fuselage/door mod width, has anyone seen a drop in airspeed? Or is the change not enough to make a difference? Obviously, the pro's are a wider cockpit which will make the shoulders happy, and hence the passengers and pilots too. Also, maybe there might be less rubbing on the window. What are the cons? 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