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1. 05:29 AM - FW: Woodcomp propeller controls (Fergus Kyle)
2. 05:58 AM - I feel a fly-in coming on (Alan Burrows)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls (Dave_Miller@avivacanada.com)
4. 06:26 AM - Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls (Karl Heindl)
5. 07:44 AM - Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls (Pete Lawless)
6. 08:38 AM - Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls (Jos Okhuijsen)
7. 08:59 AM - Re: I feel a fly-in coming on (David Joyce)
8. 10:03 AM - Re: I feel a fly-in coming on (Alan Burrows)
9. 10:52 AM - Outrigger legs (Andrew Sarangan)
10. 11:18 AM - Re: Outrigger legs (Graham Singleton)
11. 01:26 PM - Re: Outrigger legs (Fred Klein)
12. 02:25 PM - europa club memsec e-mail address (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
13. 02:41 PM - Re: Outrigger legs (glenn crowder)
14. 02:57 PM - Re: Outrigger legs (Andrew Sarangan)
15. 04:42 PM - Re: Outrigger legs (Tom Friedland)
16. 05:57 PM - Re: Outrigger legs (kbcarpenter@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | FW: Woodcomp propeller controls |
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From: Fergus Kyle
Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10 35
Subject: Woodcomp propeller controls
Cheers,
I am in the process of installing the subject item, an SR3000/3
Constant Speed unit. There are several control modules involved in the
installation and I am trying to rationalise the siting of these on a
standard mono instrument panel - somewhat cramped and needing careful
planning.
While I have read the manual several times, I find it hard to
calculate how often (and therefore where) each item should be used.
If you are familiar with the use of a 3000 or similar device,
would you consider advising me where you would put each module to permit
ease and frequency of use? This comprises CS RPM control selector, CS/manual
switch, pitch indicator and a guarded Reverse pitch switch - yes, reverse.
I know, I know.
Happy landings
Ferg
Classic mono 914
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| Subject: | I feel a fly-in coming on |
Hi Guys
Anyone planning to go to Wick next weekend it looks like a nice spot to
visit and the PFA event could be a perfect excuse. Kate & I may go if anyone
else is planning to be there?
Alan
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls |
Ferg,
For what it is worth, mine stays in the constant speed mode, so I would
position the manual/auto switch where ever there is room, you probably
will not normally need to use it.
I don't have a pitch indicator, but would not think this needs to be in a
prominent position.
The RPM control selector needs to be in sight and easily accessible.
The reverse switch is probably best located in the baggage compartment !
Dave
"Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
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Subject: Europa-List: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls
From: Fergus Kyle
Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10 35
Subject: Woodcomp propeller controls
Cheers,
I am in the process of installing the subject item, an
SR3000/3 Constant Speed unit. There are several control modules involved
in the installation and I am trying to rationalise the siting of these on
a standard mono instrument panel ? somewhat cramped and needing careful
planning.
While I have read the manual several times, I find it hard to
calculate how often (and therefore where) each item should be used.
If you are familiar with the use of a 3000 or similar device,
would you consider advising me where you would put each module to permit
ease and frequency of use? This comprises CS RPM control selector,
CS/manual switch, pitch indicator and a guarded Reverse pitch switch ?
yes, reverse. I know, I know.
Happy landings
Ferg
Classic mono 914
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| Subject: | FW: Woodcomp propeller controls |
Ferg,
I had all that installed last year (except reverse sw). I had space left on
the right side of my panel for the two round instruments, which require
non-standard size cutouts, and mounted circuit breaker and on/off toggle
switch into the same adapter plate (my cutouts are all 3 1/8") of one of the
instruments. The control box I mounted against the inside of the firewall.
Feathering was supposed to be automatic. Since everything came completely
prewired the installation was fairly easy except for having to reduce my
cutouts to their sizes. You also need a place for the mp gauge.
The manual mode checked out okay on the ground, but nothing worked correctly
in the air. I had a very frustrating summer trying to get it to work.
Acomplete replacement (incl. brush box) simply presented a different set of
problems. The automatic feathering never worked, but this could have been
wired to a manual switch. Factory support was pretty hopeless and I finally
gave up and sent it all back for a full refund. They then offered me their
new SINGLE instrument, The CS1, which takes the rpm directly from the
engine, instead of the propeller, but I had had enough of their lack of
support. I am just now installing the single instrument CSC1-G from Smart
Avionics, as others have done. The Smart box also has the manifold pressure
integrated and displayed on their instrument, so now there is only one small
instrument instead of 3.
I hope that my experience was unique and that your boxes will function
perfectly. I just also felt that the whole design was a cloodge, and had
evolved from the manual mode. Their new instrument would be worth looking
at, but let someone else be the guinea pig.
Their propeller and hub are absolutely first class. They even supplied me
with a standard XS 10 inch size spinner , and the whole propeller was
supplied fully assembled and ready to bolt on.
Karl
>From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>To: "EUROPALIST" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:26:39 -0400
>
>
> _____
>
>From: Fergus Kyle
>Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10 35
>To: EUROPALIST
>Subject: Woodcomp propeller controls
>
>
>Cheers,
>
> I am in the process of installing the subject item, an
>SR3000/3
>Constant Speed unit. There are several control modules involved in the
>installation and I am trying to rationalise the siting of these on a
>standard mono instrument panel - somewhat cramped and needing careful
>planning.
>
> While I have read the manual several times, I find it hard to
>calculate how often (and therefore where) each item should be used.
>
> If you are familiar with the use of a 3000 or similar device,
>would you consider advising me where you would put each module to permit
>ease and frequency of use? This comprises CS RPM control selector,
>CS/manual
>switch, pitch indicator and a guarded Reverse pitch switch - yes, reverse.
>I know, I know.
>
>Happy landings
>
>Ferg
>
>Classic mono 914
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Woodcomp propeller controls |
Hi Karl
Your experience was unfortunately not unique. My friend has just had a very
similar 12 month experience and has also given up and is installing the
Smart Avionics controller.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: 17 May 2007 14:26
Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls
Ferg,
I had all that installed last year (except reverse sw). I had space left on
the right side of my panel for the two round instruments, which require
non-standard size cutouts, and mounted circuit breaker and on/off toggle
switch into the same adapter plate (my cutouts are all 3 1/8") of one of the
instruments. The control box I mounted against the inside of the firewall.
Feathering was supposed to be automatic. Since everything came completely
prewired the installation was fairly easy except for having to reduce my
cutouts to their sizes. You also need a place for the mp gauge.
The manual mode checked out okay on the ground, but nothing worked correctly
in the air. I had a very frustrating summer trying to get it to work.
Acomplete replacement (incl. brush box) simply presented a different set of
problems. The automatic feathering never worked, but this could have been
wired to a manual switch. Factory support was pretty hopeless and I finally
gave up and sent it all back for a full refund. They then offered me their
new SINGLE instrument, The CS1, which takes the rpm directly from the
engine, instead of the propeller, but I had had enough of their lack of
support. I am just now installing the single instrument CSC1-G from Smart
Avionics, as others have done. The Smart box also has the manifold pressure
integrated and displayed on their instrument, so now there is only one small
instrument instead of 3.
I hope that my experience was unique and that your boxes will function
perfectly. I just also felt that the whole design was a cloodge, and had
evolved from the manual mode. Their new instrument would be worth looking
at, but let someone else be the guinea pig.
Their propeller and hub are absolutely first class. They even supplied me
with a standard XS 10 inch size spinner , and the whole propeller was
supplied fully assembled and ready to bolt on.
Karl
>From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>To: "EUROPALIST" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls
>Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 08:26:39 -0400
>
>
> _____
>
>From: Fergus Kyle
>Sent: Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10 35
>To: EUROPALIST
>Subject: Woodcomp propeller controls
>
>
>Cheers,
>
> I am in the process of installing the subject item, an
>SR3000/3
>Constant Speed unit. There are several control modules involved in the
>installation and I am trying to rationalise the siting of these on a
>standard mono instrument panel - somewhat cramped and needing careful
>planning.
>
> While I have read the manual several times, I find it hard to
>calculate how often (and therefore where) each item should be used.
>
> If you are familiar with the use of a 3000 or similar device,
>would you consider advising me where you would put each module to permit
>ease and frequency of use? This comprises CS RPM control selector,
>CS/manual
>switch, pitch indicator and a guarded Reverse pitch switch - yes, reverse.
>I know, I know.
>
>Happy landings
>
>Ferg
>
>Classic mono 914
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Woodcomp propeller controls |
Hi Ferg,
Also a SR3000 with reverse.
But i went for the CSC1-G, and while still on the ground, test running the
engine, everything seems to
work great. Have not reversed with a running engine though. I used the
Woodcomp label and security lock for the switch, replaced the switch with
a 3 pole on-off on, which cuts a relay, taking the cs controller off line
and power to reverse and unreverse. If you are interested a (bad) hand
drawn circuit diagram, i can send it to you. On the defensive side i would
like to add: I will be landing on ice, reverse might come in handy.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Re: I feel a fly-in coming on |
Alan, Weather willing the 5 or 6 planes going on the Northern Lights Tour,
(which starts Weds) will be at Wick on the Saturday. Regards David Joyce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: Europa-List: I feel a fly-in coming on
> Hi Guys
>
>
> Anyone planning to go to Wick next weekend it looks like a nice spot to
> visit and the PFA event could be a perfect excuse. Kate & I may go if
anyone
> else is planning to be there?
>
>
> Alan
>
>
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| Subject: | I feel a fly-in coming on |
Hi David, Hope to see you there. Alan
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 17 May 2007 16:59
Subject: Re: Europa-List: I feel a fly-in coming on
Alan, Weather willing the 5 or 6 planes going on the Northern Lights Tour,
(which starts Weds) will be at Wick on the Saturday. Regards David Joyce
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 1:57 PM
Subject: Europa-List: I feel a fly-in coming on
> Hi Guys
>
>
> Anyone planning to go to Wick next weekend it looks like a nice spot to
> visit and the PFA event could be a perfect excuse. Kate & I may go if
anyone
> else is planning to be there?
>
>
> Alan
>
>
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Just curious why the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork are
not utilized by the nylon legs. The nylon rod is inserted only part way
into the sockets and the bolt holes are drilled just 5mm from the rod
ends. This design seems a bit strange to me.
I am thinking of buying slightly longer rods and using the full socket
lengths for better support of the legs.
Also, why nylon? It would seem that a hollow aluminum tube or even PVC
might provide better strength and ligher weight.
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger legs |
Andrew
nylon was the only material that withstood being bent almost 90 degrees
without permanent deformation.
Graham
Andrew Sarangan wrote:
>
> Also, why nylon? It would seem that a hollow aluminum tube or even PVC
> might provide better strength and ligher weight.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger legs |
Andrew,
I too was surprised at what you've determined...particularly if the rod
is subject to the 90 degree bending which Graham describes.
If (presumably momentary) bending is to the 90 degree extreme, I can't
help but wonder if the forward portion of the speed kit fairing doesn't
get ground away...(?...Does this in fact occur?)
Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilling of the
rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in order to
assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at the
same time for optimal ground handling, I will probably be ordering
longer lengths of rod in order to effect full bearing within the wheel
fork...although I have no idea whether mono-flyers routinely have done
so.
Any comments from currently flying mono-guys?
Fred
On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> <asarangan@yahoo.com>
>
> Just curious why the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork are
> not utilized by the nylon legs.
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| Subject: | europa club memsec e-mail address |
I handed over the job of Membership Secretary to Brian Davies last
August, and I'd been announcing my retirement from the job for a year
before that in the Europa Flyer.
However, I'm still getting messages that should go to the new incumbent.
Clearly there are folk out there who don't read the manual. None of
them pilots or aeroplane builders, of course ... :-)
If anyone wants to contact the Club on membership matters (have I
paid my sub, how do I pay my sub, I have changed address, please take
Mrs John Doe off the address label as she is no longer part of this
project, etc, etc) please use the e-mail address:
<memsec@europaclub.org.uk>
That will stay attached to the Membership Secretary job, no matter
who is doing it. Please take a minute to check your e-mail address
book for any other addresses that you might formerly have associated
with the Europa Club. If it doesn't end in "@europaclub.org.uk" then
it's no longer valid - please delete it!
regards
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My outrigger legs seem to go all the way into the OR1 forks. If you're no
t careful
taxiing on narrow paved taxiways and get an outrigger off the pavement, the
outrigger
will bend considerably as it steps back onto the pavement and can scrape th
e OR1
fairing, no big deal tho. I sure wouldn't want aluminum fork legs!
Glenn> Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 1
3:25:09 -0700> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Outrigger legs> From: fklein@orcas
online.com> To: europa-list@matronics.com> > --> Europa-List message posted
by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>> > Andrew,> > I too was surprised
at what you've determined...particularly if the rod > is subject to the 90
degree bending which Graham describes.> > If (presumably momentary) bending
is to the 90 degree extreme, I can't > help but wonder if the forward port
ion of the speed kit fairing doesn't > get ground away...(?...Does this in
fact occur?)> > Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilli
ng of the > rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in o
rder to > assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at t
he > same time for optimal ground handling, I will probably be ordering > l
onger lengths of rod in order to effect full bearing within the wheel > for
k...although I have no idea whether mono-flyers routinely have done > so.>
> Any comments from currently flying mono-guys?> > Fred> > On Thursday, May
17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sarangan wrote:> > > --> Europa-List message
posted by: Andrew Sarangan > > <asarangan@yahoo.com>> >> > Just curious wh
y the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork are> > not utilized by
====================> > >
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger legs |
I was not aware of this advice to not drill the rods until the final
phase. Well, mine is done, so I may have to buy a new set of rods when
the time comes.
--- Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
> <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> Andrew,
>
> I too was surprised at what you've determined...particularly if the
> rod
> is subject to the 90 degree bending which Graham describes.
>
> If (presumably momentary) bending is to the 90 degree extreme, I
> can't
> help but wonder if the forward portion of the speed kit fairing
> doesn't
> get ground away...(?...Does this in fact occur?)
>
> Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilling of the
> rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in order
> to
> assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at the
> same time for optimal ground handling, I will probably be ordering
> longer lengths of rod in order to effect full bearing within the
> wheel
> fork...although I have no idea whether mono-flyers routinely have
> done
> so.
>
> Any comments from currently flying mono-guys?
>
> Fred
>
> On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
>
> > <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> >
> > Just curious why the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork
> are
> > not utilized by the nylon legs.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger legs |
My builders manual does not say to wait until the final phase to drill the
rods and certainly nothing about being sure that both outrigger wheels can
reach the ground when rigged.
Should the leg length reach the ground when the aircraft is empty? With one
person on board or two? With a full tank of fuel?
I drilled the legs to the measurement called for in the manual and since I
put a tire (tyre?) on that is larger in diameter, my legs are probably too
short.
Tom Friedland
On 5/17/07, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I was not aware of this advice to not drill the rods until the final
> phase. Well, mine is done, so I may have to buy a new set of rods when
> the time comes.
>
>
> --- Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>
> > <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> >
> > Andrew,
> >
> > I too was surprised at what you've determined...particularly if the
> > rod
> > is subject to the 90 degree bending which Graham describes.
> >
> > If (presumably momentary) bending is to the 90 degree extreme, I
> > can't
> > help but wonder if the forward portion of the speed kit fairing
> > doesn't
> > get ground away...(?...Does this in fact occur?)
> >
> > Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilling of the
> > rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in order
> > to
> > assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at the
> > same time for optimal ground handling, I will probably be ordering
> > longer lengths of rod in order to effect full bearing within the
> > wheel
> > fork...although I have no idea whether mono-flyers routinely have
> > done
> > so.
> >
> > Any comments from currently flying mono-guys?
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
> >
> > > <asarangan@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > > Just curious why the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork
> > are
> > > not utilized by the nylon legs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Outrigger legs |
IMHO it is best to have the legs an inch or so short when on level ground and loaded.
If you get on grass and the main wheel is in a low spot the legs will
drag, maybe a lot. If you are in any dished out area the legs are hard on the
ground. I have no problem with the plane tipping side to side a few inches when
ground handling.
Ken Carpenter mono N 9XS
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
> Andrew,
>
> I too was surprised at what you've determined...particularly if the rod
> is subject to the 90 degree bending which Graham describes.
>
> If (presumably momentary) bending is to the 90 degree extreme, I can't
> help but wonder if the forward portion of the speed kit fairing doesn't
> get ground away...(?...Does this in fact occur?)
>
> Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilling of the
> rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in order to
> assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at the
> same time for optimal ground handling, I will probably be ordering
> longer lengths of rod in order to effect full bearing within the wheel
> fork...although I have no idea whether mono-flyers routinely have done
> so.
>
> Any comments from currently flying mono-guys?
>
> Fred
>
> On Thursday, May 17, 2007, at 10:49 AM, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Just curious why the full depth available in OR1 and the wheel fork are
> > not utilized by the nylon legs.
>
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>IMHO it is best to have the legs an inch or so short when on level ground
and loaded. If you get on grass and the main wheel is in a low spot the
legs will drag, maybe a lot. If you are in any dished out area the legs
are hard on the ground. I have no problem with the plane tipping side to
side a few inches when ground handling. </DIV>
<DIV>Ken Carpenter mono N 9XS</DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
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Fred Klein <FKLEIN@ORCASONLINE.COM><BR>> <BR>> Andrew, <BR>> <BR>>
I too was surprised at what you've determined...particularly if the rod <BR>>
is subject to the 90 degree bending which Graham describes. <BR>> <BR>>
If (presumably momentary) bending is to the 90 degree extreme, I can't
<BR>> help but wonder if the forward portion of the speed kit fairing doesn't
<BR>> get ground away...(?...Does this in fact occur?) <BR>> <BR>>
Since mono-flyers have advised to NOT make the final drilling of the <BR>>
rods until the plane is sitting on the gear w/ full weight in order to <BR>>
assure that the outrigger wheels can both touch the pavement at the <BR>>
same time for optimal ground handling, I will proba
bly be
: <BR>
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