---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/27/07: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:23 AM - TP12 (Klaus Dietrich) 2. 02:11 AM - Re: Tailplane Retention (Graham Singleton) 3. 04:22 AM - Re: Tailplane Torque Tube (h&jeuropa) 4. 07:33 AM - Re: Tailplane Retention (Trevpond@aol.com) 5. 11:56 AM - Re: Wikipedia's entry on flutter (Jeremy Davey) 6. 01:31 PM - Re: Tailplane Retention (Mike Parkin) 7. 03:09 PM - Re: Tailplane Retention (Laptop JR) 8. 03:23 PM - John Hurst (Steve Crimm) 9. 04:43 PM - Re: John Hurst (Garry) 10. 09:00 PM - N81EU incident - the culprit (Thomas Scherer) 11. 09:38 PM - 6 stroke engine has 2 steam strokes, no cooling system! (glenn crowder) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:23:24 AM PST US From: Klaus Dietrich Subject: Europa-List: TP12 Hi Bob, I agree with you that there is no "guarantee" the bonding with Loctite will hold..... I suggest it _may_ be a fix for those assemblies where you have just very little play (below the tolarated 1/2", which was my case back in 1999, due to "bad" building....). And in my case the fix with Loctite 603 proved to hold untill today (7 years and 700hrs+) But of course the best fix is mod 62, properly done outside the aircraft.... Klaus -- Klaus Dietrich Oracle Financing EMEA Tel/Fax: +43 1 33 777 825 http://www.oracle.com/financing ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:59 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention Bob there is one, it's called a tree! Graham R.C.Harrison wrote: > > Hi! Graham > No we aren't flooded since we are about 300ft above sea level. However > Roger Cullum and family had to stay with us last night and tonight since > his house has 1ft of water in it. Never mind wet suits ....a device to > make water run up hill would be sure to make a bloody fortune ! > > G'day Mate! > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:23 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Tailplane Torque Tube From: "h&jeuropa" Graham, TP9 was reinforced with steel rings welded to each side. The largest portion of the taper pin is .447 inches. Jim Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=120845#120845 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:25 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention Hi Bob, My hangar/garage was flooded to 3 feet and my Trailer was completely under water as were 2 Mig Welders, my compressor, most of my power tools and assorted tool boxes and trolleys. My beautiful new Chysler Crossfire was flooded to the dashboard and appears to be a write-off. Thank goodness my aeroplane was in it's hangar at Abbots Bromley. Our kennels has survived, gold medals for swimming were awarded to staff rescuing dogs and cats (I'm not eligible as I'm both management and retired!) The Cattery is now closed and will be rebuilt from scratch as the Insurance company think that will be the cheapest option. Hey ho, just another day in my life and of course, according to my Wife, it's all my fault!! Can I come and live at your house as well? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:37 AM PST US From: "Jeremy Davey" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Wikipedia's entry on flutter Yes, Graham, that's my understanding: it was a pip-pin. Kind regards, Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham Singleton Sent: 25 June 2007 00:02 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wikipedia's entry on flutter Pip pin I think, can you confirm Jeremy? No one has yet worked out how that happened. Graham Fred Klein wrote: > > > On Sunday, June 24, 2007, at 02:39 AM, Graham Singleton wrote: > >> one tailplane pin was bent 90 degrees?! > > > Wow!...first I'd heard of that...Would that have been a TP14 or a pip pin? > > Fred > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:16 PM PST US From: "Mike Parkin" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention Hi Bob, Regards to Roger, Julie and I are in a hotel - our house is flooded also. 'Beam me up Scottie.' cheers, Mike Trev, We must compare natural disaster notes!!!!! regards, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.C.Harrison" Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention > > Hi! Graham > No we aren't flooded since we are about 300ft above sea level. However > Roger Cullum and family had to stay with us last night and tonight since > his house has 1ft of water in it. Never mind wet suits ....a device to > make water run up hill would be sure to make a bloody fortune ! > > G'day Mate! > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > Do not archive. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham > Singleton > Sent: 26 June 2007 13:23 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention > > > > Maybe I should go back to making wetsuits for a living! Are you flooded > over there? > Graham > > > -- > 10:07 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:49 PM PST US From: "Laptop JR" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention Dear Bob I was on a floodable farm for some years and experienced a few floods, swimming to get the cattle off the flats at one stage. I don't know which Bob you are writing to but I can understand a little of how you are feeling. I wish you good luck in getting things together again. Hopefully it will not be as bad as it first appears and you can do at least some rescuing. I hope a surge of energy engulfs you and you can "get stuck into it" as they wold say in Oz. Best Wishes JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevpond@aol.com To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Retention Hi Bob, My hangar/garage was flooded to 3 feet and my Trailer was completely under water as were 2 Mig Welders, my compressor, most of my power tools and assorted tool boxes and trolleys. My beautiful new Chysler Crossfire was flooded to the dashboard and appears to be a write-off. Thank goodness my aeroplane was in it's hangar at Abbots Bromley. Our kennels has survived, gold medals for swimming were awarded to staff rescuing dogs and cats (I'm not eligible as I'm both management and retired!) The Cattery is now closed and will be rebuilt from scratch as the Insurance company think that will be the cheapest option. Hey ho, just another day in my life and of course, according to my Wife, it's all my fault!! Can I come and live at your house as well? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:23:15 PM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: Europa-List: John Hurst Does anyone have any contact information for John Hurst? Thanks, Steve N42AH ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:16 PM PST US From: "Garry" Subject: Re: Europa-List: John Hurst John Hurst can be reached at Lockwood Aviation, in Sebring Florida. Garry Stout ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Crimm To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Europa-List: John Hurst Does anyone have any contact information for John Hurst? Thanks, Steve N42AH ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:00:22 PM PST US From: "Thomas Scherer" Subject: Europa-List: N81EU incident - the culprit Hi All, today I can report with confidence that the reason for the power loss in N81EU on Feb 24 was fuel starvation. I had changed the fuel filter on the main-line the day before the incident and as you can see on this photograph: culprit the fuel line was worn (10 year old factory supplied original). One strand of the tube did get into the fuel filter inlet and restricted fuel flow. I had sufficient fuel in the line for the take-off roll, yet during the early part of the climb-out the engine quit. ~~~~~~~~ I shall later report on the moments right after that and the sequence of the forced landing. Would like to discuss it with Kim Prout though first to make it more authoritative. be well - safe Landings ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:45 PM PST US From: glenn crowder Subject: Europa-List: 6 stroke engine has 2 steam strokes, no cooling system! This should work great in an aircraft, zero cooling drag, does not requir e high grade fuel, allows high compression ratios - looks interesting! http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060227/FREE/30227000 7/1023/THISWEEKSISSUE _________________________________________________________________ Play free games, earn tickets, get cool prizes! 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