---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/09/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:16 AM - Re: Fuel filters (Hans J. Danielsen) 2. 11:23 AM - Re: Europa Club Italian Tour (The Morgans) 3. 12:57 PM - Use of heat gun (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 4. 01:36 PM - Re: Use of heat gun (josok) 5. 01:45 PM - Re: Use of heat gun () 6. 02:09 PM - Re: Use of heat gun (ALAN YERLY) 7. 09:44 PM - Re: Anyone going to Oshkosh? (Richard Schultz) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:41 AM PST US From: "Hans J. Danielsen" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel filters Fred, Paul, all: When I drilled the holes in the tank I took great care to not let any crud get inside the tank. The procedure was simply to open up the bosses in the tank with them being orientated vertically downwards. That meant I had to drill from below - getting most of the crud in the fase instead. When the holesaw broke through the tank material the speed of the drill was reduced so as not to "whirl" crud inside. I vacumed the area inside the holes thorougly by inserting (taping) a piece of fuel pipe to the end of the vacum tube - getting into all corners of the tank, adjacent to the opening. So far no crud has shown up in the filters (apart from 3 - 4 small particles) after my first four testflights. I use Purolator filters only, no gascolator. Project standing still now - lost medical. Don't know yet whether it's permanent or not. Further checking will show! Hans #334, LN-HJD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel filters > > Sobering statistics indeed...thanks for chiming in Paul...I respect every > word you've written here. > > Fred > > do not archive > > On Sunday, July 1, 2007, at 01:58 PM, Paul McAllister wrote: > >> Just as a reminder, according to the FAA, More than 70% of engine >> failures >> in homebuilt aircraft are due to fuel problems, and half of homebuilt >> aircraft suffer a reduction or complete loss of power in the first 10 >> hours >> of flight. Very sobering statistics. >> >> Regards, Paul > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:44 AM PST US From: "The Morgans" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Club Italian Tour Dear David I have read with much interest your messages over the past few months about your various trips to Europe. I co-own G-MFHI a classic trigear based art Rochester,Kent with two others (Peter Rees and Mike Bullen). I am very much an aviation rookie and have only made it as far as Beauvais and Le2K. I would be really interested in joining the next French trip. However I still have to work!! (as a GP) and obviously cannot take leave at short notice. So I was wondering if, as 2008, approaches I could have advanced warning of the intended trip timings so I could prebook my holiday slot at the practice (assuming that you are still going to go next year). I think that with the support of experienced pilots it would be a very valuable and enjoyable learning experience for my colleagues and I. Very many thanks Andrew Morgan ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Joyce" Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 11:38 AM Subject: Europa-List: Europa Club Italian Tour > > > The Tour of Italy is due to take place between 25 August and 2 September. > There are places for two or possibly three more planes on the trip, and I > am > keen to hear from anyone interested now so that we can make our plans with > everyone in the loop. > The plan is to make this trip rather like the Tour de France, that > is a fairly gentle trip without anything especially challenging, with > generally a single flight daily, concentrating on getting to interesting > places with time to look around them, and enjoy the culture, wine and food > and shopping of the country - basically the sort of thing that we hope > will > appeal to wives as well as just pilots! It could also be suitable for > someone new to foreign touring as we will be able to give any support > necessary with things like flight plans, customs, foreign RT, route > planning, etc. Should we still be on the current regime of needing > re-inspecting every 10 hrs there will be a tail inspector on the trip to > keep you legal. > Anyone interested please contact me within the next week, by email > or > tel 01454 260542 > Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:57:35 PM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Europa-List: Use of heat gun I have a hinge mounted on the aileron about 1/16 from where I want it. I need to move it. The rivets drilled out easily but the manual had me use flox in addition to the rivets. In other words, the hinge is solidly floxed to the aileron. I know you can use a heat gun to remove it but I am reluctant to put too much heat to it. First, is a hair dryer adequate or do I need to purchase a heat gun? Second, what is the danger of damaging the aileron if the hinge is heated? It should be fairly easy to heat the hinge to a higher temprature than the underlling fiberglass, is there someting I need to do to protect the epoxy in the area of the hinge from the heat from the gun? Any thoughts from those who have been through it would be appreciated. Jim Puglise A-283, FL
I have a hinge mounted on the aileron about 1/16 from where I want it.  I need to move it.  The rivets drilled out easily but the manual had me use flox in addition to the rivets.  In other words, the hinge is solidly floxed to the aileron.  I know you can use a heat gun to remove it but I am reluctant to put too much heat to it.  First, is a hair dryer adequate or do I need to purchase a heat gun?  Second, what is the danger of damaging the aileron if the hinge is heated?  It should be fairly easy to heat the hinge to a higher temprature than the underlling fiberglass, is there someting I need to do to protect the epoxy in the area of the hinge from the heat from the gun?
 
Any thoughts from those who have been through it would be appreciated.
 
Jim Puglise A-283, FL



________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Use of heat gun From: "josok" Hi Jim, Use a soldering iron, the heat will go where it matters and nowhere else. Kind Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Use of heat gun From: Hello Jim Removing hinges: "Any thoughts from those who have been through it would be appreciated." I recently needed to remove hinges from my rudder. I too had concerns about heat damage. I never got to heating, I supported and 1 good whack on a piece of maple that was laying on the hinge removed it just fine. I had my hinges sanded right through plating, the flox for most part remained on aluminium! I wanted to move the rudder to the starboard a bit, so added 2 BID and 0625" G-10 spacers under hinges. I replaced the side of the hinge with rivet holes, refilled the rivet holes on the rudder and drilled new holes through all. Worked great. I used Redux/Flox to rebond hinges, and Redux/floxed the rivet heads then put a very thin layer (lightweight model airplane cloth) of Redux/fiberglass/peelply to cover the heads to prepare for filling. A neat trick I wish I incorporated in whole aeroplane is to make sure to mount half hinges on the movable control surface. This way you can pinch hinge pin and force wear in the half of hinge that has nutplates on them that is much easier to replace than going through what you are going through on a finished part. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:56 PM PST US From: "ALAN YERLY" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Use of heat gun Jim, I don't know how a 1/16 error would require all this work, unless it is recessed too far and binding, but here is an instruction I gave one of my clients recently: At my shop, we have had to remove a number of misplace hinges. Use a soldering gun (Weller is good) of about 40 watts, the heat gun will damage too large of an area for my liking. Clean up the flox and epoxy buildup on the ends of the hinge so you can just see the buried side without getting into the glass fiber. Heat the metal hinge only, and pry it up carefully. I use a flat Exacto knife to use as a pry bar and begin heating on one end of the hinge. I watch to ensure the glass is not changing color from excess heat and do not use so much force to distort the glass. Keep the other side of the glass surface cool by using a wet paper towel. Once the hinge starts to move, you can just pull on the hinge or grab it with pliers. I never reuse the hinge. Then do a fiberglass repair of the area. Your best efforts have weakened the glass anyway so just suck it up and do it. That means sanding it down on both sides and rebuilding the area with 8 oz. glass and flox. Peel ply and inspect. Then start over on the hinge placement. It sounds like a tedious project and it is. I am anal about ensuring the repairs are structurally strong, hence the lack of desire to just heat the pee out of it and yank it off, reposition and flox mentality, although it has been done many times. I hope this helps. Bud Yerly Custom Flight. ----- Original Message ----- From: jimpuglise@comcast.net To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:49 PM Subject: Europa-List: Use of heat gun I have a hinge mounted on the aileron about 1/16 from where I want it. I need to move it. The rivets drilled out easily but the manual had me use flox in addition to the rivets. In other words, the hinge is solidly floxed to the aileron. I know you can use a heat gun to remove it but I am reluctant to put too much heat to it. First, is a hair dryer adequate or do I need to purchase a heat gun? Second, what is the danger of damaging the aileron if the hinge is heated? It should be fairly easy to heat the hinge to a higher temprature than the underlling fiberglass, is there someting I need to do to protect the epoxy in the area of the hinge from the heat from the gun? Any thoughts from those who have been through it would be appreciated. Jim Puglise A-283, FL http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:27 PM PST US From: "Richard Schultz" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Anyone going to Oshkosh? Bud and others, I will be bringing 262AE to the big show once again. I plan to arrive the Friday or Saturday before (if it ever stops raining in Texas!). I will most likely park on the flight line (Homebuilt parking) and camp in the main camp ground. ( better showers and near the camp store) I will be at the forum and available most days walking the flight line and taking in the sights. If anyone is interested in getting together for a cold one after the airshow one day we could all meet up at the bar just north of the approach end to runway 9. I think it is called the charcoal pit or something like that. It has a nice little deck facing the runway and good food as well. My cell number is 713-703-2156 Hope to see everyone at Oshkosh! Rich Schultz N262AE _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Europa-List: Anyone going to Oshkosh? Europa Owners, I will be hosting a Europa Forum on Thursday the 26th of July from 4:00 - 5:15 P.M. at Pavilion 1 for all Europa Owners and intersted parties. My thanks to Jim Butcher and others who have helped me to come show the flag and share what news I have as the new distributor for Europa. I will close my shop and join you to answer any questions on how the company is doing and any questions on construction, as I have had the opportunity to help a few of you from construction thru flight test. So please, bring your questions, pictures and war stories to share. Bud Yerly Custom Flight Creations US Europa Distributor and fellow owner. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.