---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/04/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:06 AM - Mod 74 kit (David.Corbett) 2. 06:50 AM - DOTH Lydeway Monday (nigel charles) 3. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: Attending Rough River Fly-in... (Paul McAllister) 4. 11:22 AM - GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion (steve v) 5. 12:18 PM - Re: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion (nigel charles) 6. 12:55 PM - Re: DOTH Lydeway Monday (William Harrison) 7. 01:35 PM - Re: Europa colours /The facts (europa flugzeug fabrik) 8. 02:04 PM - Re: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion (steve v) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:53 AM PST US From: "David.Corbett" Subject: Europa-List: Mod 74 kit With very many thanks to Roger Bull, I have received my Mod 74 kit this morning; I placed my order on 24 July, and Roger rang me yesterday afternoon to advise that he was just about to despatch it. For those who have not yet placed their orders, it is important to let Roger know, when ordering your kit, whether your aircraft already has Mod 52 incorporated. I hope to get started on Monday - space permitting; a new Pioneer arrived in my hangar yesterday. David G-BZAM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:37 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Lydeway Monday The weather is still looking OK for my suggested DOTH BBQ fly-in on Monday. This is a PPR event. Anyone who wishes to attend and who has not yet received information should reply to this email. This event is open to other types of aircraft as well as Europas. Regards Nigel Charles ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:07 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Attending Rough River Fly-in... From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Paul McAllister Sent: Fri 8/3/2007 6:08 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Attending Rough River Fly-in... 1. Jeff Behrnes 225 773-9671 cell N55XS Baby Blue Tri-gear 2. Steve & Bobbi Crimm 678-461-7957 Home N42AH (Tentative) Mono 3. Jeff Roberts 615-406-8651 Cell N128LJ Gold Rush Tri-Gear 4. Andrew Sarangan 937-830-1610 arriving in a Zodiac. 5. Troy & Donna Maynor 828-778-7702 cell. Driving in Wed.PM till Sat 6. Jim & Heather Butcher, 269-599-0122 cell 7. Chuck & Marilyn Rhoads 502-410-1357 Geo-Metro powered Tri-gear 8. Paul McAllister 262 993 4483 cell. N378PJ Mono 9. Bud Yerly Cell 813 244-8354 Driving in as N12AY will be getting Mod 52 and 74. 10. Gary Leinberger - flying in with Mooney Friday to Monday - 717-682-9726 11. Julie & Tim Miller - Driving 12. Ron Parigoris 631-839-3636 cell driving in Friday afternoon 13. Wayne Gutschow 631-796-6431 cell driving in Friday afternoo ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:22:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion From: "steve v " Hi All, Do any builders or 'Techheads' know of a means or device that will read the ALT. Data from my Bendix King Skymap iiic and feed it to the ALT. input on the Garmin GTX320 transponder, i have both installation manuals and it seems that the skymap has one output as opposed the the 320's ten inputs, Steve Vestuti #573 G-CEBV (not looking forward to removing the TP4 to add loctite...) Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:07 PM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: RE: Europa-List: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion Unless your Skymap has a capability to take a static pressure input and then convert it into the digital output required by the transponder I doubt very much that what you want is possible. Unless I am very much mistaken the ALT output from any GPS is derived from the GPS signal. This is an inaccurate and meaningless source of information as far as the transponder is concerned. You either need to buy an altitude encoder (not very expensive) or purchase the Rocky Mountain Instruments uEncoder whuch will give a wealth of other info as well. Nigel Charles -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve v Sent: 04 August 2007 19:19 Subject: Europa-List: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion Hi All, Do any builders or 'Techheads' know of a means or device that will read the ALT. Data from my Bendix King Skymap iiic and feed it to the ALT. input on the Garmin GTX320 transponder, i have both installation manuals and it seems that the skymap has one output as opposed the the 320's ten inputs, Steve Vestuti #573 G-CEBV (not looking forward to removing the TP4 to add loctite...) Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:05 PM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Lydeway Monday PPR please? Best wishes Willie Harrison On 4 Aug 2007, at 14:49, nigel charles wrote: > The weather is still looking OK for my suggested DOTH BBQ fly-in on > Monday. This is a PPR event. Anyone who wishes to attend and who > has not yet received information should reply to this email. This > event is open to other types of aircraft as well as Europas. > > > Regards > > > Nigel Charles > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:20 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa colours /The facts From: "europa flugzeug fabrik" In the interest of adding my amateur science here [ ;-) ], I have this digital, infrared temperature reading, gun thingy which is remarkably accurate. Have also an SUV with much sculpting on the body for different sun angles, in med-dark gray-green metallic. The paint reads 10F-degrees below its various black parts on a sunny day. Like today, bright-sun, 78-80F. The highest temp near midday read 135F, for places on the car most perpendicular to the sun, or 55F above ambient. On the side of the vehicle more facing the noon sun, highest temp for a pure vertical surface was 110F, or 30F above ambient. For lowest side surfaces, more angled toward the ground, highest was only 25F above ambient. These side temps (110 or less) will not soften fiberglass, even on an ambient day of 95F, or resulting 125F worst case. At 2:30PM, a very thin overcast moved over, but still classed as a sunny day, all measured temps dropped significantly, like 20F. So, for a Europa whose lower portion of the fuse is painted in a less brutal color than my SUV, the more perpendicular angle will occur as the sun is nearer the horizon, but through all that similar atmospheric stuff, we know that the sun does not feel as hot. On a clearer day, I shall test again. As to heat reflection from the ground, when the sun was at a midday angle to best reflect off the concrete (reading 105F), I "shot" the rocker panels. This is metal, painted black on my SUV, underneath the door bottoms, and why in U.S. they're called "rockers," who knows. They are more angled down toward the ground than the door above, but still read about 10F higher than the dark gray above it. I then shot the temp on the bottom side of the rocker, parallel to earth, and it read another 10F higher yet. However, this is 8 inches above ground. This would be a function of distance for sure, and I'll guess it's an inverse-square relationship. This suggests that the monowheel would be more affected than a tri-gear. Thus, a possible explanation for the damage to the factory demonstrator with the dark blue bottom paint was a combination of monowheel which it was, hot day, black asphalt ramp, and after a flight where we're adding engine room heat to the the affected area. Accordingly, on my tri-gear, I have no problem with painting my Europa's lower 40% in color less brutal than that blue. Fred F. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=127510#127510 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:19 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: GTX320 to Skymap iiic Mode C qestion From: "steve v " OK, I was looking for an alternative to the encoder that cuts into the static, but if its theres not one available then ill go with the coventional type, Thanks, Steve vestuti #573 G-CEBV Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.