---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/09/07: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:45 AM - removal of nylon outrigger legs (Remi Guerner) 2. 08:01 AM - Mod 72 (William Daniell) 3. 08:14 AM - Re: Mod 73 list (William Harrison) 4. 08:50 AM - Re: removal of nylon outrigger legs (Ralph K. Hallett III) 5. 09:14 AM - Re: Mod 72 (jimpuglise@comcast.net) 6. 09:20 AM - Re: Mod 73 list (Richard Iddon) 7. 11:14 AM - Re: Europa-List, spreading the legs (Niels Kock) 8. 01:24 PM - Re: Mod 72 (rampil) 9. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Europa-List, spreading the legs (Graham Singleton) 10. 02:30 PM - Re: Re: BATTERY MASTER SWITCHBATTERY MASTER SWITCH (Rob Housman) 11. 02:35 PM - Re: Mogas near Rough River (Jeff B) 12. 02:46 PM - More advice Re:- Rotax,please. (R.C.Harrison) 13. 02:48 PM - Re: Mogas near Rough River (Steve Crimm) 14. 03:07 PM - Re: Mogas near Rough River (JEFF ROBERTS) 15. 04:13 PM - Re: BATTERY MASTER SWITCH (Paul McAllister) 16. 04:13 PM - Re: Mod 73 list (Mike Gregory) 17. 04:18 PM - Re: Mod 72 (Graham Singleton) 18. 04:38 PM - Re: Mod 72 (William Daniell) 19. 04:49 PM - Re: Mod 72 (Graham Singleton) 20. 08:22 PM - [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 21. 08:22 PM - Re: Mod 72 (Michael Grass) 22. 10:06 PM - Re: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Kingsley Hurst) 23. 10:23 PM - Re: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Alan Burrows) 24. 11:51 PM - Re: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (R.C.Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:43 AM PST US From: "Remi Guerner" Subject: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs Thank you Troy, but as I cannot remove the leg from the wing, I have to find a freezer big enough to put the whole wing in! Regards Remi I had the same problem getting the nylon out to get the forks painted. I put them in the freezer. The next day they fell out when I picked them up. Troy Maynor ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:54 AM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: Europa-List: Mod 72 Displaying my ignorance again The mod calls for etching primer What is etching primer and what does it do? And what is ACF whateveritis that prevents corrosion? Roger told me that it is like WD40 so is WD40 a substitute? Thanks Will ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:49 AM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73 list > Two more to report. Tony Kay did both his a/c and mine this week. > No dramas and I have updated the table below accordingly. Hours and > pip pin details for 'AY not available at the time of writing. Note > (1): 'NY needs one longer pin - other side was long enough as > original. Tony also reports a conversation with Francis Donaldson > who wanted to hear first hand reports from inspectors in the field > about any signs of disbonding or other problems observed. > Apparently the same conversation indicated (as I understand it) > likely movement by the PFA towards approving the use of Loctite to > secure TP 9 and 12's onto the torque tube. Willie =EF=BC ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:40 AM PST US From: "Ralph K. Hallett III" Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs Rather than using a large freezer try using either ice or dry ice to cool the area. Ralph Remi Guerner wrote: > Thank you Troy, but as I cannot remove the leg from the wing, I have > to find a freezer big enough to put the whole wing in! > Regards > Remi > > > > > I had the same problem getting the nylon out to get the forks painted. > I put them > in the freezer. The next day they fell out when I picked them up. > Troy Maynor > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:33 AM PST US From: jimpuglise@comcast.net Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 Will- I had the same question but found both at Aircraft Spruce. I have in front of me "Tempo Aviation Self Etch Primer" and "ACF-50" Anti Corrosion Formula, both from Spruce. As I recall, the are less than $10 per spray can. Jim Puglise - A-283 -------------- Original message -------------- From: "William Daniell" > > Displaying my ignorance again > > The mod calls for etching primer > > What is etching primer and what does it do? > > And what is ACF whateveritis that prevents corrosion? Roger told me that it > is like WD40 so is WD40 a substitute? > > Thanks > > Will > > > >
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I had the same question but found both at Aircraft Spruce.  I have in front of me "Tempo Aviation Self Etch Primer" and "ACF-50" Anti Corrosion Formula, both from Spruce.  As I recall, the are less than $10 per spray can. 
 
Jim Puglise - A-283
 
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________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:32 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mod 73 list Thanks Willie, I have added your data to my list. Regards, Richard. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Harrison Sent: 09 August 2007 16:13 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73 list Two more to report. Tony Kay did both his a/c and mine this week. No dramas and I have updated the table below accordingly. Hours and pip pin details for 'AY not available at the time of writing. Note(1): 'NY needs one longer pin - other side was long enough as original. Tony also reports a conversation with Francis Donaldson who wanted to hear first hand reports from inspectors in the field about any signs of disbonding or other problems observed. Apparently the same conversation indicated (as I understand it) likely movement by the PFA towards approving the use of Loctite to secure TP 9 and 12's onto the torque tube. Willie 08/08/2007 17:38 08/08/2007 17:38 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:00 AM PST US From: "Niels Kock" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List, spreading the legs Ross, John Wigney and Graham. Thanks for the useful advise. With that I shall prevail. And thank you for your confidence, Graham. I do try my best to be a mere mortal. Niels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Singleton" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 1:44 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs > > > Niels > those gear legs are not too difficult to bend. You could jack it out a few > mm. then squeeze it back in th fiut the wheel with a block of wood where > the tire touches to hold the gap at that point. > You, being a medical engineer should be able to silence those unhappy > piglets !?;-0 > Graham > > Niels Kock wrote: >> Remi. > >> It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel leg, >> emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple >> of fighting piglets. >> It is not only the pensive looks from stewardesses and other >> impression-worthy groups connected to >> aviation that bothers me, when I pass them by, squealing insanely, it is >> also the palpable temperature of the >> sides of the tyre after taxying to the hangar. >> Niels Kock > > > -- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at f 1750 spam-mails. Betalende brugere fr ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent gratis SPAMfighter her: http://www.spamfighter.com/lda ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:24:48 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Mod 72 From: "rampil" WD40 is not a substitute for the hi-tech ACF anticorrosive -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=128331#128331 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:16:08 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List, spreading the legs Niels sorry about the tei ping errors! Graham Niels Kock wrote: > > Ross, John Wigney and Graham. > Thanks for the useful advise. With that I shall prevail. > And thank you for your confidence, Graham. I do try my best to be a mere > mortal. > Niels ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:30:20 PM PST US From: "Rob Housman" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: BATTERY MASTER SWITCHBATTERY MASTER SWITCH Roger and Ira: Thanks for the input. Two "gotchas" have been brought to my attention, fortunately before first flight (which unfortunately is not imminent) . Being an analog guy in a digital world I made the erroneous assumption that solid state relays don't care about waveform. OOPS. Worse yet, I missed the fact that starter current is just a tad higher than the steady state cruise load. "Lectric Bob's remotely operated battery switch (9042-100) is looking like a really good device for my purposes. Best regards, Rob Housman Irvine, California Europa XS Tri-Gear S/N A070 Airframe complete From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ROGER MILLS Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:46 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: BATTERY MASTER SWITCHBATTERY MASTER SWITCH Rob, Are you actually using this relay? I suspect it isn't suitable for a DC load (if you look at the laod terminal it says "AC" ). It probably uses a triac as the control element - which depends on the voltage reaching zero to switch off. Regards Roger Mills ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:35:06 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mogas near Rough River Steve, Any idea if it's 93 octane? Jeff Steve Crimm wrote: > > > Here is a list of airports within 180 of Rough River that sell Auto > Gas according to airnav.com > > > > > > Mogas (auto) prices within 180 miles of 2I3 > > > > Airport / FBO > Mogas > $2.89---$3.85 > average $3.38 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 70KY > 29 ENE /Vine Grove Airport/ Vine Grove, KY > Vine Grove Airport > > > $2.89 > > > 30-Sep-2006 > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > KCUL > 82 WNW /Carmi Municipal Airport/ Carmi, IL > Carmi Municipal Airport > > FS > $3.15 > > > 19-Jun > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > KCEY > 106 WSW /Kyle-Oakley Field Airport/ Murray, KY > Kyle-Oakley Field (Murray-Calloway County) > > > $3.85 > > > 06-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > KGRE > 154 WNW /Greenville Airport/ Greenville, IL > Greenville Airport Phillips 66 > AS > $3.74 > > > 25-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > K96 > 155 NNW /Tuscola Airport/ Tuscola, IL > Tuscola Airport > > AS > $3.55 > > > 05-Aug > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > KAPT > 159 SSE /Marion County Airport-Brown Field/ Jasper, TN > Marion County Airport > > FS > $3.30 > > > 12-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > KMNV > 161 SE /Monroe County Airport/ Madisonville, TN > Tellico Air Services > > PS > $3.75 > > > 22-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 7I2 > 162 NNE /Reese Airport/ Muncie, IN > Reese Flying Service > > FS > $2.90 > > > 08-Jun > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > 2K0 > 173 NNW /Piatt County Airport/ Monticello, IL > Monticello Aviation > > SS > $3.15 > > > 06-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > H88 > 180 W /Fredericktown Regional Airport/ Fredericktown, MO > Fredericktown Regional Airport > > PS > $3.50 > > > 20-Jul > update > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > * > > > * > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:19 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: More advice re:- Rotax,please. Hi!\All The fuselage is now completely snag clear at long last. However how long is it before it stops dumping oil from the carb manifold drains ? Regards Bob H Robt.C.Harrison ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:48:38 PM PST US From: "Steve Crimm" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mogas near Rough River Know idea, probably would require a phone call to be sure. Steve _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 17:34 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mogas near Rough River Steve, Any idea if it's 93 octane? Jeff Steve Crimm wrote: Here is a list of airports within 180 of Rough River that sell Auto Gas according to airnav.com Mogas (auto) prices within 180 miles of 2I3 Airport / FBO Mogas $2.89-$3.85 average $3.38 _____ 70KY 29 ENE Vine Grove Airport Vine Grove, KY Vine Grove Airport $2.89 30-Sep-2006 update _____ KCUL 82 WNW Carmi Municipal Airport Carmi, IL Carmi Municipal Airport FS $3.15 19-Jun update _____ KCEY 106 WSW Kyle-Oakley Field Airport Murray, KY Kyle-Oakley Field (Murray-Calloway County) $3.85 06-Jul update _____ KGRE 154 WNW Greenville Airport Greenville, IL Greenville Airport Phillips 66 AS $3.74 25-Jul update _____ K96 155 NNW Tuscola Airport Tuscola, IL Tuscola Airport AS $3.55 05-Aug update _____ KAPT 159 SSE Marion County Airport-Brown Field Jasper, TN Marion County Airport FS $3.30 12-Jul update _____ KMNV 161 SE Monroe County Airport Madisonville, TN Tellico Air Services PS $3.75 22-Jul update _____ 7I2 162 NNE Reese Airport Muncie, IN Reese Flying Service FS $2.90 08-Jun update _____ 2K0 173 NNW Piatt County Airport Monticello, IL Monticello Aviation SS $3.15 06-Jul update _____ H88 180 W Fredericktown Regional Airport Fredericktown, MO Fredericktown Regional Airport PS $3.50 20-Jul update _____ _____ ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:07:41 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mogas near Rough River Steve & Jeff, I will have some TCP with me so anyone that needs a shot is more than welcome to have some to fill er up with 100LL. Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush On Aug 9, 2007, at 4:47 PM, Steve Crimm wrote: > Know idea, probably would require a phone call to be sure. > > Steve > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff B > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 17:34 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mogas near Rough River > > Steve, Any idea if it's 93 octane? > > Jeff > > Steve Crimm wrote:Here is a list of airports within 180 of Rough River > that sell Auto Gas according to airnav.com >> >> >> >> Mogas (auto) prices within 180 miles of 2I3 >> >> Airport / FBO >> Mogas >> $2.89$3.85 >> average $3.38 >> 70KY >> 29 ENE >> Vine Grove Airport Vine Grove, KY >> Vine Grove Airport >> >> >> >> $2.89 >> >> 30-Sep-2006 >> update >> KCUL >> 82 WNW >> Carmi Municipal Airport Carmi, IL >> Carmi Municipal Airport >> >> FS >> >> $3.15 >> >> 19-Jun >> update >> KCEY >> 106 WSW >> Kyle-Oakley Field Airport Murray, KY >> Kyle-Oakley Field (Murray-Calloway County) >> >> >> >> $3.85 >> >> 06-Jul >> update >> KGRE >> 154 WNW >> Greenville Airport Greenville, IL >> Greenville Airport >> Phillips 66 >> AS >> >> $3.74 >> >> 25-Jul >> update >> K96 >> 155 NNW >> Tuscola Airport Tuscola, IL >> Tuscola Airport >> >> AS >> >> $3.55 >> >> 05-Aug >> update >> KAPT >> 159 SSE >> Marion County Airport-Brown Field Jasper, TN >> Marion County Airport >> >> FS >> >> $3.30 >> >> 12-Jul >> update >> KMNV >> 161 SE >> Monroe County Airport Madisonville, TN >> Tellico Air Services >> >> PS >> >> $3.75 >> >> 22-Jul >> update >> 7I2 >> 162 NNE >> Reese Airport Muncie, IN >> Reese Flying Service >> >> FS >> >> $2.90 >> >> 08-Jun >> update >> 2K0 >> 173 NNW >> Piatt County Airport Monticello, IL >> Monticello Aviation >> >> SS >> >> $3.15 >> >> 06-Jul >> update >> H88 >> 180 W >> Fredericktown Regional Airport Fredericktown, MO >> Fredericktown Regional Airport >> >> PS >> >> $3.50 >> >> 20-Jul >> update >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http:// > www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http:// > forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:11 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: RE: Europa-List: BATTERY MASTER SWITCH Hi Ferg, I used an EV200 in my Europa and it worked fine until I had my "hit by lighting" incident. It turned the electronics into a small charred spec and obviously didn't work anymore. Of course this left me flying at 9500' with the master contactor turned off. Fortunately I have my system set up with an essential buss that can be feed directly for the battery. I guess it was some real world testing. Anyhow, as part of my repairs while I was "on the road" so to speak I installed a contactor from a NAPA auto parts store for $16.50 and there it has stayed from that day to this. It was smaller and lighter than the EV200 and it didn't cost $90... I assume that if I get hit by lightning again (perish the thought) then it will probably continue to work. I did try a solid state 1600A device for a while. It worked fine until the engine kicked back and it went the same way as the EV200 electronics. Pity really because it only weighed a few ounces and I didn't have to pay a one amp penalty when it was energized. So, in conclusion, go down to the local NAPA store and by a low tech contactor or a battery isolator switch, sometimes simple is best. Paul ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:13:11 PM PST US From: "Mike Gregory" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mod 73 list Willie I should be very wary of having one pin that is too short to fit on either side. Better to get two longer pins, so that it doesn't matter which way round you fit them. While I know you are conscientious and would never make a mistake, someone else later in NY's life might fit the shorter pin in the side that needs a longer one, with potential consequences that I don't need to spell out. Regards MIke _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Harrison Sent: 09 August 2007 16:13 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73 list Two more to report. Tony Kay did both his a/c and mine this week. No dramas and I have updated the table below accordingly. Hours and pip pin details for 'AY not available at the time of writing. Note(1): 'NY needs one longer pin - other side was long enough as original. Tony also reports a conversation with Francis Donaldson who wanted to hear first hand reports from inspectors in the field about any signs of disbonding or other problems observed. Apparently the same conversation indicated (as I understand it) likely movement by the PFA towards approving the use of Loctite to secure TP 9 and 12's onto the torque tube. Willie ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:39 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 WD40 is definitely not a substitute. It degrades over a few months then causes abrasion or corrosion or both, (as I understand, it degrades to silica in some circumstances, particularly in electrical environments). ACF50 or LPS1 2 or 3 are like the old Finnegan's Waxoil and leave a protective self healing film. Graham William Daniell wrote: > > Displaying my ignorance again > > The mod calls for etching primer > > What is etching primer and what does it do? > > And what is ACF whateveritis that prevents corrosion? Roger told me that it > is like WD40 so is WD40 a substitute? > > Thanks > > Will > > > > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:38:34 PM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Mod 72 Ok is there a commonly available substitute for both remembering that bringing hazmat from the US to Colombia is a little costly? Thanks Will -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham Singleton Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 18:15 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 WD40 is definitely not a substitute. It degrades over a few months then causes abrasion or corrosion or both, (as I understand, it degrades to silica in some circumstances, particularly in electrical environments). ACF50 or LPS1 2 or 3 are like the old Finnegan's Waxoil and leave a protective self healing film. Graham William Daniell wrote: > > Displaying my ignorance again > > The mod calls for etching primer > > What is etching primer and what does it do? > > And what is ACF whateveritis that prevents corrosion? Roger told me that it > is like WD40 so is WD40 a substitute? > > Thanks > > Will > > > > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:51 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 Waxoil? it's an old motor trade product. Graham William Daniell wrote: > > Ok is there a commonly available substitute for both remembering that > bringing hazmat from the US to Colombia is a little costly? > Thanks > Will > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:01 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Bob Harrison Lists: Europa-List Subject: G-PTAG Kit 337 Europa - Fuselage Conversion http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk.08.09.2007/index.html ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:22:02 PM PST US From: "Michael Grass" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 All, I wonder if Poly Fiber's Tubeseal can be used as well as a substitute for the ACF50. It says on the container " containing a very fine preservative oil, mil spec. l-21260, which has a characteristic of climbing the tube wall and spreading over the entire surface to provide lasting protection. Prevents rust and corrosion inside aircraft tubing structures." Another set of questions: The instruction of Mod 72 states: " Thoroughly coat the insert with etch primer, including the bore, and allow to dry completely." I am not sure about : A- How do you uniformly coat the inside of the inserts (and probably the inside of the tubes too) ? B- Don't you scrape the primer off again when you drive the insets into the tubes and therefore make the coating useless? Wonder how others have done this. Regards Michael Grass A266 Trigear, 914, Woodcomp3000 Detroit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Singleton" Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:45 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 > > > Waxoil? it's an old motor trade product. > Graham > > William Daniell wrote: >> >> >> Ok is there a commonly available substitute for both remembering that >> bringing hazmat from the US to Colombia is a little costly? >> Thanks >> Will >> > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:34 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: RE: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! That prop looks really mean Bob ! very much like the Rospeller. Should really grab hold of the air mate. Can't wait to hear your comments about the performance of your new set-up as opposed to the old one so hurry up and get those mods finished. Best regards from 'the boomerang thrower from way back' Do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:39 PM PST US From: "Alan Burrows" Subject: RE: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Hi Bob The aircraft looks great, hope you get enough cooling from that cowl design in all this hot weather you seem to be having. You obviously didnt take global warming into account in your calculations :-) We are presently in Vancouver on the second leg of our honeymoon. All the Best Alan & Kate -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Email List Photo Shares Sent: 10 August 2007 04:21 Subject: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Bob Harrison Lists: Europa-List Subject: G-PTAG Kit 337 Europa - Fuselage Conversion http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk.08.09.2007/index. html ---------------------------------------------------------- o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ---------------------------------------------------------- 16:06 16:06 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 11:51:46 PM PST US From: "R.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Hi! Alan and Kate Me too! But I'm used to controlling heat problems ! The ducting entrance is a splash from Ivor Phillips who has copied Peter Kembers Mod. So it's origin is at the top G-TOPK ! Hope you are enjoying Britsh Columbia. WE did the Inside Passage ferry cruise Port Hardy to Prince Rupert and saw some Pacific sunsets. Went past Bella Bella a remote fishing town without any roads to it across the wilderness, then travelled up the Skeena Valley to Jasper over the glacier ice fields (I think only discovered early 1900's ) and the Athabaska falls onwards to Lake Louise and Banff. Saw the Indians spearing salmon, thought they were clever until I realised they never missed .......because there were so damn many they couldn't! Our trip also encompassed Penticton and Hells Gate ! Fabulous country and views, we are so jealous. Have a great time. Bob and Jan H Robt.C.Harrison -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows Sent: 10 August 2007 06:22 Subject: RE: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! Hi Bob The aircraft looks great, hope you get enough cooling from that cowl design in all this hot weather you seem to be having. You obviously didn't take global warming into account in your calculations :-) We are presently in Vancouver on the second leg of our honeymoon. All the Best Alan & Kate -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Email List Photo Shares Sent: 10 August 2007 04:21 Subject: Europa-List: [ Bob Harrison ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! 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