---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/11/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Mod 74 progress part 2 (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 2. 06:56 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/10/07 (Fergus Kyle) 3. 10:24 AM - Mod 74 - progress report 2(A) (David.Corbett) 4. 02:09 PM - Re: removal of nylon outrigger legs (jim Brown) 5. 11:52 PM - Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (Remi Guerner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:46:46 AM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 74 progress part 2 <> How tight did you tighten the nut, given that the instructions don't call for it to be tightened? Duncan McF. ----- Original Message ----- From: David.Corbett To: Europa Forum Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Europa-List: Mod 74 progress part 2 I have been asked by Anthony van Eldik how I got on with pip pin alignment; here is the answer. The new bolts were easy to screw in by hand, using the pip pins to give a little leverage; having screwed them in to the measurements I had taken, we offered up the wings. The port wing required half a turn adjustment, the starboard was correct, so we took the wings out again, and then unscrewed the bolts, counting the turns - 21 for one, 20.5 for the other. We then cleaned the threads, both of the new bolts and within the bonded-in plates, to remove old Loctite. We then screwed the new bolts in for 10 turns, applied Loctite to the remaining 10 turns still exposed, and screwed in to the agreed position. We then refitted the wings, and (because I was away the following day), left the Loctite to set for 36 hours; that was Tuesday. On Thursday morning I made the flox fillet; I was very concerned that, if I used the Nyloc nut to position the washer such that it flattened the flox, it might cause the new bolts to break away from the Loctite, thereby ruining all the setting up; I therefore obtained 2 nuts without Nyloc heads, and screwed them, with grease inside, up against the washers - finger tight was enough to flatten the washer. On Thursday evening we re-fitted the wings, fitted the Nyloc nuts, and tightened them up with a standard ratchet; we then removed the wings again ready for the lay-ups. That all sounds simple; however, we had very great difficulty last night getting the port pip pin in - it is definitely now a 2 man job, because the wing needs to be tweaked forward (as the Mod instructions said might happen), and quite a bit of pressure applied to the pin itself, both to get it in and to get it out again. Before starting this, and in anticipation of a possible problem, I got the pip pin rings welded so that they would not just pull open under strong pressure. The starboard pip pin now goes in more easily than before - and it was never difficult (neither of them were). Today I have inserted the foam plugs, and laid up the 5 layers of BID, as instructed - and the job is signed off by my Inspector, although all the filling is still to be started - and as there was well over 2 mm filler ground away over the root of the wing, filling and sanding down will have to be done in 2 or 3 stages. On Tuesday, whilst getting the bolts correctly set up, we did damage the head of one pip pin (where the ring goes through), and John Wheeler at the factory tells me that they have no spare pip pins in stock - so be careful! In summary, I asses that because of the need to let 4 stages cure before moving on to the next step (before getting to the filling and finishing), Mod 74 cannot realistically be done in less than a week - and I have the hangar space and all the tools and materials, and have been able to work on a pair of wings at the same time. You need two people for the wings in and wings out operations, but otherwise it is a one man job - 2 together will not speed it up. Any questions??!! David G-BZAM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:11 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 08/10/07 Raimo, ''Time: 10:41:45 AM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: BATTERY MASTER SWITCH Dear Ferg here is my solution. I divided the electrical consumption in two as follows: 1) starter, trimming devices, stall warning, gear warning, door warnings, clock, Dynon back-upp charger, burglary-alarm etc. This is handled by full mechanic main-swithch which is installed over the glove shelf (it does not prevent removing the panel, it is light weight, cheap and solid and it is operated w/o el pwr). The switch is about similar somebody has installed to the co-pilots head rest in the case his accu is in the back. Price was about 15 euros. I`m interested to know where you got the mechanical switch and what amperes it will switch.. 2) all the rest is handled by small automotive type relay http://www.biztee.com/Products/2649.html using about 30 mA. It handles 40A which is enough for me. I use it by "master switch" in my panels left side. Price was about 5 euros. That sounds ideal, too. thanks for the address - normally # 1 is always open and # 2 is closed (trim CB must open also separately!). - when flying both are closed (ON) of course. - in the case of emergency landing I open # 2 and leave # 1 closed - so I am still able to start, use trim and have all the warnings I am used to (and clock is in time!) - during long (more than two weeks) staying period I open (OFF) both This was simple, cheap, lightweight, prctical and safe solution for my purposes. Wishes, Raimo I`m keen to add about 15 amps for Amateur radio equipment, so the 40A looks good as well. Perhaps I can find something like that here. I have to keep some current for 2 fuel pumps for the 914 which complicates it a bit. I am installing a MiniMac computor to run my software for Nav and position reporting. The position reports are routed to my home computor so I have a flight log waiting when I come home, plus wherever it stops enroute is where Search & Rescue look for my crash.... Cheers again! Ferg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus Kyle" Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Europa-List: BATTERY MASTER SWITCH > Cheers, > I'm still searching for that elusive device - in an attempt to avoid > the cost of an ampere or two of contactor current - which will control a > primary battery source and another for secondary battery source. > I have found several which meet one criterion or another, but not > all: > [a] should carry as much current as a contactor for that job; > [b] needs to be an up-down rather than rotary type switch; > [c] should be on a remote(able) stalk so I can undo the connection to > remove the instrument panel ; > [d] cost less than the usual contactor - or at least be competitive. > I have devised a system to isolate the controls from wandering > fingers so am not fussy about security. I'm not sure what a "Kill switch" is > really. > Any help would be most appreciated. > Ferg > Classic 914 CS prop mono > PS: My server is down for the last 2 days, so my thanks will be > delayed......... ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:48 AM PST US From: "David.Corbett" Subject: Europa-List: Mod 74 - progress report 2(A) 24 hours ago I wrote that the factory had told me, earlier in the week, that they were out of stock of new (wing) pip pins. In this morning's post, 2 new pip pins arrived - many thanks to you both, Roger and John. They are of a much improved design to those that were issued with my wing kit some 10/11 years ago. David G-BZAM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:21 PM PST US From: "jim Brown" Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs Niels Try puting 25 or 30 psi in the tire. The original tire supplied with my kit was also the old 800 x 6. I operate off a paved runway and the tires rubbed the sides of the gear legs on landing. The higher pressure gave me a little extra clearance between the gear leg and the tire. I replaced that tire with a 700 x6 6ply rating. It makes the a/c ground handling much better. Jim Brown N398JB ----- Original Message ----- From: Niels Kock To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:46 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs Remi. I encountered the same problem in a similar situation. Your intellect will not serve you well here, you have to resort to brute force: Put a bolt fitting the axle holes of the fork through the 2 holes. The bolt must be long enough to extend at least 3-4 centimeters either side of the wheel fork. Then strike the bolt with many small strikes parallel to the leg, on alternate sides of the fork, and you will see the fork moving gradually off the leg. At least I did. Now, I have a problem: I've just put on a new mono-tyre, McReady Air-trac 8.00 x 6. pumped to 15 psi. It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple of fighting piglets. It is not only the pensive looks from stewardesses and other impression-worthy groups connected to aviation that bothers me, when I pass them by, squealing insanely, it is also the palpable temperature of the sides of the tyre after taxying to the hangar. Imagine the loss of face and money, if the squealing progress comes to an abrupt halt with an almighty thunderclap from a burst inner tube in front of an awe-struck crowd! Apart from parting with another 100 =A3 buying a 7.00 x 6 tyre, is there any possibility of splaying the UC-leg about one mm each side? I already have untightened the central bolt through the hub a couple of threads. To no avail. Any suggestions? Niels Kock OY-ODA Mono Classic ----- Original Message ----- From: Remi Guerner To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs Hello all, I just received my monowheel speed kit. I tried to remove the outrigger OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I tried to remove the nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be the nylon has expanded with aging . Any suggestion ? Remi Guerner F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 912S, Airmaster, 510 hours ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Jeg beskyttes af den gratis SPAMfighter til privatbrugere. Den har indtil videre sparet mig for at f=E5 1738 spam-mails Betalende brugere f=E5r ikke denne besked i deres e-mails. Hent en gratis SPAMfighter her. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:00 PM PST US From: "Remi Guerner" Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. Karel, Gert, I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know if camping is allowed on the airfield? Remi F-PGKL Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday after the lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting... Hope to see you there in the crouds. Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.